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Re: Car Analogy said by Core0000:If they were going for car analogies.. Well I would want a Chevy truck over a pinto car. That pinto car may get the job done, but it can't do any heavy lifting like the chevy could, can, and will do. Fibers all about expanding capabilities...at least that's what I take it as.  Is fiber really needed for the pathetic speeds that FiOS and U-Verse give today?
The answer is no. These can be done over coax. |
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AVonGaussPremium
join:2007-11-01
Boynton Beach, FL | Fiber is not about speed as much as it is about capacity. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | reply to fifty nine
Bbbbbut your cable provider isn't even matching those "patheric" speeds! |
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said by AVonGauss:Fiber is not about speed as much as it is about capacity. What use is capacity if it isn't used? |
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said by iansltx:Bbbbbut your cable provider isn't even matching those "patheric" speeds! I get 30 meg down, 2 up. More than enough for my needs, and more download than 20/5 FiOS. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
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| 1. I can get 30 mbit download with PowerBoost over my current cable connection. Which is DOCSIS 1.1. Granted, that doesn't happen 80% of the time but it's possible.
2. Above about 15 Mbps per second, I'd much rather have increased upload than download. I'll take 15/5 over 30/2 any day of the week. If a file I need is *that big* and I need it *that quickly* I'll probably have to do some major editing/uploaidng of said file soon after.
Oh, and how much are you paying for your 30/2 connection? Almost forgot to ask that. FiOS is $60/month for 20/5, $70/month for 20/20. Guess what I'd take on 100/10 vs. 20/20? You guessed it, 20/20. Unfortunately 99.9% of servers out there are on 100 Mbit connections so getting 2.5 MB/s downloads and uploads is going to make my day a lot better than downstream speeds I'll have a hard time saturating due to "the other end".
Again, I'll maintain that after about 15 Mbps per second, today's applications don't see a discernable performance improvement in 99.9% of cases. However this 15 Mbps applies for both download and upload speeds. Guess which one HFC has so far been unable to do in more than a halfhearted manner? |
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Sammer
join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA | reply to fifty nine
said by fifty nine:Is fiber really needed for the pathetic speeds that FiOS and U-Verse give today? The answer is no. These can be done over coax. That may be true but Verizon didn't own a coax infrastructure when they started to roll out FiOS. Are you suggesting that Verizon and AT&T should have built out their own hybrid fiber coax (or at least cat 5e) infrastructure to homes? |
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 IgnitePremium,VIP
join:2004-03-18
UK | reply to fifty nine
said by fifty nine:said by iansltx:Bbbbbut your cable provider isn't even matching those "patheric" speeds! I get 30 meg down, 2 up. More than enough for my needs, and more download than 20/5 FiOS. You really do adore cable, don't you sir?
Isn't your cable usage capped, and how often does it actually reach 30Mbit? |
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Please...the most DOCSIS 3 can offer, from what I understand, is around 100 mbps. Look at how quickly we jumped from being satisifed with 3-5 mbps to suddenly only being satisfied if we receive greater than 10 mbps at the very least.
How long do you think before people start demanding something more than 50 mbps offered by cablecos and Verizon right now (and maybe AT&T in the future if they perfect pair bonding)? 100 mbps will become the standard soon enough. Probably within the next 10-15 years. Then what do the cablecos do? Develop DOCSIS 4?
And if the speeds offered by FiOS (its not really fair to lump FiOS and Uverse together since Uverse isnt pure fiber) are pathetic, why dont you say the speeds offered by coax are pathetic as well? As of right now, the cablecos are matching Verizon for 50 mbps down. It's the same thing. Except at any time Verizon can up their down speeds dramatically and blow the cablecos out of the water.
Fiber is the superior medium. No matter what you say about coax, fiber will always win. |
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