hogwild
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| Bell Speedstream 4200 unlock/flash questions
Hi everyone:
I have here a Speedstream 4200 from Bell. I have read through (quite) a few
of the unlocking and flashing instructions, and I'm not sure which is the best way for me to go.
I see a lot of clear info. on unlocking the 5200 but not so much the 4200.
Please forgive me if my searches missed it.
First of all, I'm confused when trying to identify which modem I have. THE MODEM LABEL reads:
"Part number: 060-D242-A58"
"IC: 267AJ-D242A58".
However, in the web interface, it reads:
"Config Part. No 003-y093-G05"
"004-D240-A3S".
Does this mean I have a D240 or D242?
I would like to config. the modem so that all menus possible will show, and I would like to access said menus
without having to resort to having an html links sheet available.
Do I need to flash, or can the all this be done simply by unlocking?
I am quite comfortable with either, though I could use instructions.
Thanks very much in advance
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The very first link Google finds using the Part Number is....................
»www.keyboardninjas.com/smf/index···pic=68.0
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hogwild
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1 edit | reply to hogwild
Thanks for that-it worked. Just what the "Dr." ordered.
A couple of follow-up questions. Will this config. stick after a factory defaults reset? I'm guessing not...
Second, Can Bell upgrade the firmware now? I've called, and was told they no longer try to update 4200 modems online,
but I just assumed they could be wrong/lying and that it was automated and could still happen.
Anyone know?
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1 edit | First Answer is Yes it loses the changes after a reset, of course. Save the instructions to your HDD or print out to file away.
Second Answer, I Don't Know. However, you can simply disable that ability (that stops them dead) by stopping the CWMP agent.
Disabling the CWMP agent from CLI
»shadow.sentry.org/~trev/adsl4200···fig.html
HTH
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said by hogwild  :Thanks for that-it worked. Just what the "Dr." ordered. A couple of follow-up questions. Will this config. stick after a factory defaults reset? I'm guessing not... Second, Can Bell upgrade the firmware now? I've called, and was told they no longer try to update 4200 modems online, but I just assumed they could be wrong/lying and that it was automated and could still happen. Anyone know? hogwild The document I have says "There is no firmware upgrade available for the 4200 " |
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| said by Harleyguy :The document I have says "There is no firmware upgrade available for the 4200 " Does not mean that a future release might become available and delivered over night using the enabled by default CWMP agent.
Note: Don't know what document that you have, but I do know there are two 4200 designs (early revision D240 and later revision D242) and each uses a different Firmware that isn't swappable between versions.
Sympatico updated one of their 4200s at least 3 times with the CWMP agent and that shows there were different Bell Canada/Sympatico specific 4200 Firmwares at one time.
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Bicephale
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| %20.GIF "41191 bytes")
Siemens SS4200 PN 060-D242-A65 with 004-D240-A7S FirmWare |
Mine is marked as D242 HardWare on the back but its FirmWare is D240!
I bought this Genuine (non-branded) unit from GenTek:
%20.GIF)
Where to buy a Siemens SS4200?, Bicephale, 2008-May-22 |
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hogwild
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Thanks again.
Okay, a couple of questions.
1. I assumed that when the author who wrote the text in the post on Keyboard Ninjas wrote:
"Now when you access this link you will be able to change ALL your settings on your modem."
I assumed that meant that all the menus (or at Menu Headings or categories) would display
in the left window pane of the web interface, without my having to create html files or similar
with links to pages other than what was being displayed. After the procedure, it displays:
Home
User Pages
Status and Statistics
Tools
(and all their nested menus)
Is that the typical result?
I CAN get into the other pages described by using the HTML links outside the modem
in html files), on this site etc. I was just hoping for
the former situation.
2. I cannot telnet into the modem, as suggested. When I try, I get error:
"C:\WINDOWS>telnet 192.168.2.1
Connecting To 192.168.2.1...Could not open connection to the host, on port 23: Connect failed"
Do I need to enable something in the modem, or ??
Thanks once more!
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| Doctor Olds is some notorious resource on the SpeedStream
around here. He's most likely the best user to ask questions
about this product but i can tell you the address i TelNet to
is 192.168.254.254 (using the genuine FirmWare/setup)... |
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hogwild
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Was that a hint?
hogwild |
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Bicephale
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There are D240 and D241 Firmwares. Don't mix Part numbers with Firmware numbers and we are initially only talking about what Bell Canada supplied otherwise I can show my 4200 which is US based and has a D246 Part number......
System Type: SpeedStream 4200-Series
Modem Part #: 060R-D246-A12
Config. Part #: 003-6100-G0a
Firmware Part #: 004-D241-A0U
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said by hogwild : "Now when you access this link you will be able to change ALL your settings on your modem." I assumed that meant that all the menus (or at Menu Headings or categories) would display in the left window pane of the web interface, without my having to create html files or similar with links to pages other than what was being displayed. After the procedure, it displays: Home User Pages Status and Statistics Tools (and all their nested menus) Is that the typical result? Yes, 100% normal. Not all pages will show up, but roughly 80% will become visible. You just have to direct access the other pages if you need them by pasting the link in your browser or saving them as bookmarks.
said by hogwild :I CAN get into the other pages described by using the HTML links outside the modem in html files), on this site etc. I was just hoping for the former situation. 2. I cannot telnet into the modem, as suggested. When I try, I get error: "C:\WINDOWS>telnet 192.168.2.1 Connecting To 192.168.2.1...Could not open connection to the host, on port 23: Connect failed" Do I need to enable something in the modem, or ?? Thanks once more! hogwild You most likely will need to open the Telnet Server by using this utility that works on the 5200 and 4200.
»Efficient Networks Forum FAQ »How do I set/reset the 5200 FTP/Telnet Login and Password?
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Thank you, i knew you were the right guy to ask these questions! 
I've just made a post over there in case you'd like to comment further:
Siemens SpeedStream 4200 FirmWare UpGrades, Bicephale, 2009-Apr-18 |
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hogwild
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Heh heh. Never mind.
LOL
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hogwild
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Thanks again, Doc.
You are certain it will work on my firmware on a 4200? I did some searching, but didn't see any indication of whether or not that's the case.
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clubs: | Certain what will work? The ICGabe Utility to open up Telnet/FTP for access? Yes, it works with all Speedstreams as far as I've seen. |
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| said by Doctor Olds :Certain what will work? The ICGabe Utility to open up Telnet/FTP for access? Yes, it works with all Speedstreams as far as I've seen. Doesn't that utility simply allow for setting a temporary user/password to access telnet or ftp? The port has to be open in the firmware regardless, as far as I can remember.
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| It does both. It is for when Telnet/FTP works, but you don't know the UN/PW or it is for when you try Telnet/FTP and it returns cannot connect errors.
»A50 FW on 5200, no telnet or FTP !!!
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hogwild
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1 edit | Interestingly enough, the 5200FTP utility did not seem to work. Even though it confirmed changing of the pwd. to the one I
specified, when I tried logging in via Telnet using that password immediately afterwards, I was simply prompted again for another
username and pwd. I tried several times.
Anyone have any suggestions?
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