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flyawaydutch

join:2009-04-19

ABC's of setting up WAP2 security

Hey,

I have been using WEP 128 HEX for the longest time now and never knew it was the weakest type of encryption until a read a few threads on this site. Anyways, so I want to set up a WAP or a WAP2 but I dont know how. When i select either, it gives me an option of PSK or EAP (which I dont know what they stand for) and also I hear people talking about AES and TKIP which again I dont know.

So i was wondering if someone could be kind enough and walk me through how to set up the WAP or WAP2 security. I have a D-Link DI-524 router.
Also is it true that the performance with WAP security is much better than WEP? As in faster internet speeds

Thanks!


nwrickert
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For home use, choose PSK (Pre Shared Key). EAP is overkill for the home user.

If all connecting devices support AES, then use that. Otherwise, or if you are not sure, select TKIP.

I'm not aware of any significant difference in speeds. If you can set your router for "g" only, rather than "b/g" autoselect, that might give faster speeds. But, again, only do that if all devices are compatible.
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docrice
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reply to flyawaydutch
EAP = Extensible Authentication Protocol. You can Google that up because explaining it here will result in globs of text.

First thing to check - do all the supplicants in your devices that will use the AP support WPA2-PSK with AES/CCMP? In other words, do the 802.11 wireless software installed on the devices support it? These days, they should at least do WPA-PSK with TKIP. If you have really old hardware, it's possible the interface firmware / software may need an update, if available. Windows XP (if that's what you're using) doesn't support WPA2-PSK with AES unless you have a software update from Microsoft.

»wicked-styles.com/bitsandpieces/···ecurity/


flyawaydutch

join:2009-04-19

reply to flyawaydutch
Well all I want my wireless connection is for
Xbox Live
My wireless computer running Windows XP with latest microsoft updates
iPod touch

If I use WAP2-PSK will these devices work on the wireless network?



Its a Secret
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Da wet coast
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said by flyawaydutch:

If I use WAP2-PSK will these devices work on the wireless network?
Yes, WPA2 is backwards compatible to WPA. Make sure you use a strong PW, like one of these: »www.grc.com/passwords.htm
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flyawaydutch

join:2009-04-19

reply to flyawaydutch
so do I use PSK or EAP?



nwrickert
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If this is for a home office, or a small office with just a few wireless computers, use PSK. If this is for a company, or a large office with hundreds of users, use EAP. If it is somewhere in between, then you will have to judge.


docrice
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reply to flyawaydutch
Most people use PSK. The "EAP" reference is for the "RADIUS" based setup, also known as "WPA Enterprise" where 802.11i security (in its original intention, anyway) is used. This is technically a more secure implementation, but at the same time not very practical for home users or even small businesses with just a handful of wireless stations.

If you reeeaaaaally want to do EAP, let's talk shop ... but unless you're already fluent in RADIUS, layer 2 / layer 3, PKI / TLS / SSL, identity management systems, etc., it's not worth it. That stuff's for people who just want to understand that type of deployment or run organizations where such level of protection is required.

»wicked-styles.com/bitsandpieces/···ecurity/

Oh, for XP and WPA2, you may also want to consider this since I don't think it's made available through Windows Update:

»www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta···ylang=en


flyawaydutch

join:2009-04-19

reply to flyawaydutch
Im using it just for my home computers....

I guess I will download that patch since you said it doesnt come through Windows update BUT will it be compatible with my Xbox Live AND iPod Touch?



nwrickert
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reply to docrice

Oh, for XP and WPA2, you may also want to consider this since I don't think it's made available through Windows Update:
I'm pretty sure that XP with SP3 installed already supports WPA2.
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Its a Secret
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It does.


docrice
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reply to nwrickert
I come from environments where SP2 is still relatively common, but I agree that SP3 should support WPA2 since it makes some underlying changes in the way the OS handles connectivity profiles.

I can't speak for an Xbox since I don't own one, but an iPod touch should provide WPA2 capability.


flyawaydutch

join:2009-04-19

reply to flyawaydutch
Yeah I have Windows XP SP3 so I dont think I will need to install that update.

As for the Xbox, I have been reading and apparently the wireless adapter does not support WPA2 encryption but does support WPA encryption.

Guess I'm gonna have to use that for now



Anav
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No worries with WPA, just ensure you use a strong key 20+ characters (random U&l case letters, numbers and symbols if permitted)


flyawaydutch

join:2009-04-19

reply to flyawaydutch
Sweet, thanks!

And I will report back and let you know if there is any performance increase or not.



webtiger
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join:2000-07-29
Abbotsford, BC

XBox 360 will work with WPA2 I had mine working for about 10 months before moving....
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flyawaydutch

join:2009-04-19

reply to flyawaydutch
im guessing only if you have a wired connection.
I have the wireless adapter and it says on their site that WAP2 is not supported


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