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PapaMidnight

join:2009-01-13
Baltimore, MD

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reply to swhitney2003

Re: I dislike when people steal songs, but

said by swhitney2003:

said by me1212:

What if your neighbor is stealing your internet via wifi
Easy, password protect your wifi.
Please allow me to point out what I believe to be a few flaws with your statement.

First, most people who buy wireless routers don't even know how to set them up. It's a given that just driving down the street will turn up SSIDs of linksys, dlink, belkin, netgear, eHome, and others all broadcasting unsecured. In most cases, the default password is still intact as well.

Actually, to say that they are "secured" is an oxymoron. Most people who did by some chance "secure" their access points have older hardware, and by limitation, can only secure with as high as WEP, which as anyone who follows the 802.11 spec, should know, is about as secure and putting a glass window between a Ferrari and the Keys in the ignition, and the outside world. (»www.techworld.com/security/news/···sid=8456)

So of course, one might say "use WPA". Of course the hardware limitation re-presents itself once more. Then again, a proof-of-concept of cracking WPA was presented in 2004. By the end of last year, WPA was being cracked in 12 minutes. (»www.pcworld.com/article/153396/.html)

Now the obvious conclusion here would be to suggest the usage of WPA2. Once again, the factor of hardware limitations rears its head; and this time, it does so with a vengeance.

Blocking by MAC address? How secure! (»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAC_spoofing)

Not broadcasting your SSID? I think I just chuckled.

Now this is not a personal attack. The point is that there truthfully is no way to secure a wireless link. If someone wants in bad enough, they will get in.

Jaghar

join:2001-01-30
Painesville, OH

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I really hate that argument.

Let me put it this way.

Do you look the doors and windows in your house?

If not, is it because you are in an secure area where the threat of crime is low?

If so....why? Anybody can bust a window or door and get in.

Just as you say, most people don't know how to set up a wireless router, and even LESS know how to hack through the security.

Lock your router just like you do your other things (cars, homes, etc.).
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wentlanc
You Can't Fix Dumb..

join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH

The lock is there to show the owners intention. Not to actually keep anyone out. Same with Wifi. If I put on WEP, I cannot be held liable because someone else thwarted my basic security. The attempt had been made to keep them out...

cw


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