battleop
join:2005-09-28
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Re: When you don't have to be responsible...
If comcast runs out of money in their ventures they can go to someone who will willing give them money. If the City government runs out of money they go to the taxpayers who have to give the money if they are willing or not. |
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Bit
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join:2009-02-19
00000 | No, Comcast being in an oligopoly simply raises their prices and they've been doing so at 3X the rate of inflation for more than a decade. |
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battleop
join:2005-09-28
00000 | As a consumer you can opt out of that rate increase by canceling your service. As a tax payer you can only move out of town. |
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
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said by battleop  :If comcast runs out of money in their ventures they can go to someone who will willing give them money. If the City government runs out of money they go to the taxpayers who have to give the money if they are willing or not. And the government NEVER gives free money to private business do they? Did you read the article? It mentions that in the past Embarq (the ILEC in the area) was given grants to build-out. Isn't that taxpayer money, only, it doesn't really benefit them as the return on that investment is piddly DSL.
You don't think government gives incentives, like tax breaks, right-of-way usage, and free land to local companies so they will come to their area? It's all taxpayer money, only in the case of the government, profits and golden parachutes aren't allowed so more of the money goes to benefit the citizens.
I'll take 100Mbps fiber for half the price any day. |
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battleop
join:2005-09-28
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| I don't care about AT&T and TWC, so don't think I am taking their side. It's the smaller providers who work their asses off, pay their city taxes both business and company build up their businesses only to get shit on by their city government. The smaller Wisp and ISP gets bent over and dry #$@#ed because of the ensuing price war between the city, the ILec, and CableCo.
Once the small providers are gone then you end up with things like Caps, by the byte billing and any other way the big guys get away with screwing your eyes out. |
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
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| battleop , while in an idealistic world I would agree with you, the fact is if the smaller ISP doesn't have the gumption to work with city government then they deserve the same fate as the big boys who won't deploy.
I've worked with a lot of city governments, both small and mid-sized, and they LOVE for small business to get involved and take the initiative on things like this. So I don't for one second feel bad for the little guys. |
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Sammer
join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA
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said by battleop :Once the small providers are gone then you end up with things like Caps, by the byte billing and any other way the big guys get away with screwing your eyes out. Haven't you noticed that except in areas the big guys don't consider profitable enough the little guys are going away anyway. It's not like that many members of Congress or State Legislators expect AT&T & TWC to be responsible. |
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battleop
join:2005-09-28
00000 | You might try and argue that in the wISP forum. That's where a lot of the smaller guys pick up the slack and thrive. |
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Bit
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join:2009-02-19
00000 | reply to battleop
Take it or leave it are not marketplace competitors, but rather the result of the lack of marketplace competitors. |
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