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Bob61571

join:2008-08-08
Washington, IL
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Metered Billing?

Karl, others,

Please see blog comments by Michael Willner (Insight CEO) on this topic today at
»www.michaelsinsight.com/

Willner does read DSLR , Karl.
(you're listed on his reading list on left side)
And, he tends to be a very common sense guy.
Maybe, some debate possible between the 2 of you?

see Willner's opinions in
2 stories on metered billing.
AT&T
»www.michaelsinsight.com/2009/04/···sts.html

Time-Warner
»www.michaelsinsight.com/2009/04/···hey.html


Matt
All noise, no signal.
Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12

Common sense? He's not making much sense to me at all.

He says that Time Warner was shouted down because they were transparent, but AT&T is moving forward without telling consumers -- and somehow that makes AT&T right? So let's get this straight, AT&T and TW exist to provide a service. When they want to change their service and their customers become outraged, they should simply not inform their customers of the coming changes and move forward with them anyway?

Then he goes on to say that they should be allowed to move to usage billing because it won't impact their customers, but it will encourage infrastructure improvements? Well, who is going to pay for those improvements if not the move to usage based billing which will significantly raise rates -- or cause rates to skyrocket a year or so from now as the average home users usage increases?

But wait, there is more. He then goes on to say that government regulation is needed?!? Although to be fair, it somewhat sounded like he meant for every industry but his, but I wasn't clear on that point.

I'm not sure this guy really has any coherent opinion of his own, much less one that is worthy of debate. CEO or not, he sounds like a crackpot.


jimbo2150

join:2004-05-10
Youngstown, OH

reply to Bob61571
The first article had no option, it was just a news report by the CEO about what is going on. The second article clearly showed him in support of metered billing, but didn't clarify any of his points... let me do so for him. Here is his points in support of metered billing:

quote:

  • Networks would be more aggressively upgraded for new and advanced services

  • ISPs could stop or reduce managing their networks during peak periods

  • Online video would be more available and deliverable on upgraded networks

  • Legal P2P services would be faster and more available

  • Only a small percentage of customers would pay more (those who use the most bandwidth)

  • Light users would pay less

  • Most would see no change in their bill at all



Here it is again with my own clarification of these points:


  • Networks would be more aggressively upgraded for new and advanced services

    1. In our good time... just as we have been doing. * How will this change anything?



  • ISPs could stop or reduce managing their networks during peak periods

    1. Less for more! We stop protecting because we prevent you from using the service fully!



  • Online video would be more available and deliverable on upgraded networks

    1. As long as you get it from US (not HULU or YouTube) and PAY PREMIUMS FOR IT! If you choose to go with outside video sources all we ask you to do is PAY US PREMIUMS FOR IT! Innovation at work!



  • Legal P2P services would be faster and more available

    1. As long as you use OUR SOFTWARE (on OSes we feel like supporting -- hear that mac, linux users?), OUR NETWORK, and have LESS CHOICE! Want to use our apps to download video or programs? Want to use a third-party P2P program? See the dollar signs in our eyes?



  • Only a small percentage of customers would pay more (those who use the most bandwidth)

    1. Because the internet will never innovate when users are limited in what they can an cannot do without paying premiums for it.



  • Light users would pay less

    1. No different then now. The package that today STARTS at $30/month will still START at $30/month... as long as you continue to only check your email. For the rest of users using P2P, youTube, Hulu, or any other innovative sites: PAY US MORE!



  • Most would see no change in their bill at all

    1. Actually, we should say 'SOME' cause more and more are using services like CBS video, Hulu, youTube, etc.




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- "Techie" Jim


S_engineer
Premium
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL

His first statement about the upgrades is false. TW made money last year with only selective plans for upgrades. Why would anybody trust what TW says when thier own COO states that they won't upgrade consumers in non-competitive markets?

On sept.9, 2008 TWC chief operating officer Landel Hobbs said at a conference in California that his company's strategy will be to deploy DOCSIS 3.0 "surgically" in markets where it is most needed, but not in markets where the company is finding support for its tiered broadband services.
»www.fiercetelecom.com/story/twc-···08-09-09
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"When I was in junior high school, the teachers voted me the student most likely to end up in the electric chair."---Sylvestor Stallone


jimbo2150

join:2004-05-10
Youngstown, OH

said by S_engineer:

On sept.9, 2008 TWC chief operating officer Landel Hobbs said at a conference in California that his company's strategy will be to deploy DOCSIS 3.0 "surgically" in markets where it is most needed, but not in markets where the company is finding support for its tiered broadband services.
»www.fiercetelecom.com/story/twc-···08-09-09
THAT is ridiculous! Some of these companies are looking more and more like greedy scammers than anything else. Amazing what lack of competition will do to the industry.
--

- "Techie" Jim

andre2

join:2005-08-24
Brookline, MA

reply to S_engineer

said by S_engineer:

On sept.9, 2008 TWC chief operating officer Landel Hobbs said at a conference in California that his company's strategy will be to deploy DOCSIS 3.0 "surgically" in markets where it is most needed, but not in markets where the company is finding support for its tiered broadband services.
»www.fiercetelecom.com/story/twc-···08-09-09
So in a nutshell, the people who pay for the upgrades will be the ones who support caps/metering, but the ones who actually get them will be the ones who don't.

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