Topic 'Re: Another one bites the dust!' in forum '' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Another-one-bites-the-dust-22271249 en Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:28:13 EDT Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:28:13 EDT Re: Firepower of this fully armed and operational Battle Station http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Firepower-of-this-fully-armed-and-operational-Battle-Station-22280651
My impression after talking to them was that they don't really have any intentions of keeping the CV customers outside of their areas of coverage.

So far for me, Optimum Voice is the best and lest expensive option.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Firepower-of-this-fully-armed-and-operational-Battle-Station-22280651 Wed, 22 Apr 2009 18:31:23 EDT Re: Another one bites the dust! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Another-one-bites-the-dust-22276275 said by kieranmullen:

I do not quite understand you. You put your sip credntials in a PBX or an ATA. what does it matter?

2000 minutes out pure outgoing minutes at 1.4 per minut =
$28 + $3.99 for number $31.99 (no tax)

Where do I start... First you are not going to get the hand holding or tech support of a company like PhonePower. Second, you don't get nowhere near the feature set. PhonePower gives you up to 3k minutes a month and Voice Pulse is truly unlimited so for for an average family it is a much better deal! Also PhonePower gives you a free ATA as long as you are with them that is plug & play. Again we are talking about CallVantage which is a residential service and the consequences. If this thread was about a business PBX provider like Packet 8 who offers both then it would make more sense to compare?

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Another-one-bites-the-dust-22276275 Tue, 21 Apr 2009 23:26:24 EDT Re: Another one bites the dust! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Another-one-bites-the-dust-22275972 said by rmrper:

What seems dumb about this to me, is even though we haven't been given a cut off date, many of us CV users are already looking at our options to leave. Based on user reports here, I'm considering VoicePulse. If I end up happy with them, I'll have little motivation to move to AT&T's new BYOB service whenever they launch it. AT&T should have had their new service ready to go before telling us they were killing CV, I might have been willing to at least consider their new offering. Now, they'll just lose another customer.
You have to understand, todays ATT is really being run by the former SBC crowd.

And their managers are just dumb, dumb, dumb.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Another-one-bites-the-dust-22275972 Tue, 21 Apr 2009 22:36:20 EDT Re: Another one bites the dust! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Another-one-bites-the-dust-22275518
2000 minutes out pure outgoing minutes at 1.4 per minut =
$28 + $3.99 for number $31.99 (no tax)

said by 44402812:

said by kieranmullen:

voicepulse.com is good. However have you looked at your actual outgoing usage and calcuklated what it would cost to go per minute? You could go with the PBX in a flash offer that is still ongoing for $4 a month (total .. there are no taxes) and then pay pennies per minute. Incomming is free.

I do not work for them. Sorry about the huge pic. I have multiple providers. I am not a salesperson of this product.

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said by rmrper:

What seems dumb about this to me, is even though we haven't been given a cut off date, many of us CV users are already looking at our options to leave. Based on user reports here, I'm considering VoicePulse. If I end up happy with them, I'll have little motivation to move to AT&T's new BYOB service whenever they launch it. AT&T should have had their new service ready to go before telling us they were killing CV, I might have been willing to at least consider their new offering. Now, they'll just lose another customer.
Yeah but now you are comparing apples to oranges. The original thread is about AT&T Call Vantage which is residential PBX is business class. Most residential customers use at least 500 outgoing minutes a month and I use 1,500-2k on average. So that is not a deal for the average residential user. People reading this thread are not going to be interested in a PBX system? They just want to pay a cheap monthly rate between 10-30.00 a month and have a phone that works with a unlimited minutes.
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Another-one-bites-the-dust-22275518 Tue, 21 Apr 2009 21:26:23 EDT Re: Another one bites the dust! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Another-one-bites-the-dust-22275463 said by kieranmullen:

voicepulse.com is good. However have you looked at your actual outgoing usage and calcuklated what it would cost to go per minute? You could go with the PBX in a flash offer that is still ongoing for $4 a month (total .. there are no taxes) and then pay pennies per minute. Incomming is free.

I do not work for them. Sorry about the huge pic. I have multiple providers. I am not a salesperson of this product.

»pbxinaflash.com/vitelity/

said by rmrper:

What seems dumb about this to me, is even though we haven't been given a cut off date, many of us CV users are already looking at our options to leave. Based on user reports here, I'm considering VoicePulse. If I end up happy with them, I'll have little motivation to move to AT&T's new BYOB service whenever they launch it. AT&T should have had their new service ready to go before telling us they were killing CV, I might have been willing to at least consider their new offering. Now, they'll just lose another customer.
Yeah but now you are comparing apples to oranges. The original thread is about AT&T Call Vantage which is residential PBX is business class. Most residential customers use at least 500 outgoing minutes a month and I use 1,500-2k on average. So that is not a deal for the average residential user. People reading this thread are not going to be interested in a PBX system? They just want to pay a cheap monthly rate between 10-30.00 a month and have a phone that works with a unlimited minutes. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Another-one-bites-the-dust-22275463 Tue, 21 Apr 2009 21:17:57 EDT Re: Another one bites the dust! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Another-one-bites-the-dust-22275301
I do not work for them. Sorry about the huge pic. I have multiple providers. I am not a salesperson of this product.

»pbxinaflash.com/vitelity/

said by rmrper:

What seems dumb about this to me, is even though we haven't been given a cut off date, many of us CV users are already looking at our options to leave. Based on user reports here, I'm considering VoicePulse. If I end up happy with them, I'll have little motivation to move to AT&T's new BYOB service whenever they launch it. AT&T should have had their new service ready to go before telling us they were killing CV, I might have been willing to at least consider their new offering. Now, they'll just lose another customer.

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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Another-one-bites-the-dust-22275301 Tue, 21 Apr 2009 20:52:21 EDT Re: Another one bites the dust! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Another-one-bites-the-dust-22274109 --
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This is a bad business idea, IMHO. AT&T is thinking of the future already: The future where they have VERY LOW caps and MEGA HIGH overage charges to protect their monopoly type services.

They think by shutting down CV they will force users into more expensive, AT&T plans.... but at this stage, it's jumping the gun, because they are *actually* getting people to leave for competitor's third party VOIP, and that's a bad business move!

But they have plans, oh yes. The Deathstar is under construction. They figure soon will come a time when low gigabyte caps and high overage charges will mean third party VOIP will not be nearly as attractive.... and even if you stay with a third party, AT&T can still make bank by charging you metered billing for the bandwidth.

Problem is, they moved early. The battle station isn't quite operational just yet.

Why yes, why save people 20.00 a month? They realized why should we make a customer out of someone who has broadband and wants to save a few bucks. We can discontinue it and bend over everyone on our new Ushit service. :(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Firepower-of-this-fully-armed-and-operational-Battle-Station-22273031 Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:36:34 EDT Firepower of this fully armed and operational Battle Station... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Firepower-of-this-fully-armed-and-operational-Battle-Station-22272777
They think by shutting down CV they will force users into more expensive, AT&T plans.... but at this stage, it's jumping the gun, because they are *actually* getting people to leave for competitor's third party VOIP, and that's a bad business move!

But they have plans, oh yes. The Deathstar is under construction. They figure soon will come a time when low gigabyte caps and high overage charges will mean third party VOIP will not be nearly as attractive.... and even if you stay with a third party, AT&T can still make bank by charging you metered billing for the bandwidth.

Problem is, they moved early. The battle station isn't quite operational just yet.

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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Firepower-of-this-fully-armed-and-operational-Battle-Station-22272777 Tue, 21 Apr 2009 13:52:55 EDT Re: Another one bites the dust! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Another-one-bites-the-dust-22272447 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Another-one-bites-the-dust-22272447 Tue, 21 Apr 2009 13:02:33 EDT Re: Another one bites the dust! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Another-one-bites-the-dust-22271715
U-verse voice is available to me (finally) but I don't see good reason to pay more for less service. With all of this capping nonsense going on I want to make sure my ISP is easily changed. I've also read way too many reports of issues with caller ID and voice quality issues. At least with Time Warner VOIP, the line was better than POTS quality (could even maintain reliable 56k modem connections) which helped justify the additional cost. Hopefully AT&T will sort those problems out.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Another-one-bites-the-dust-22271715 Tue, 21 Apr 2009 10:41:38 EDT Re: Another one bites the dust! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Another-one-bites-the-dust-22271285 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Another-one-bites-the-dust-22271285 Tue, 21 Apr 2009 09:29:34 EDT Re: Another one bites the dust! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Another-one-bites-the-dust-22271279 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Another-one-bites-the-dust-22271279 Tue, 21 Apr 2009 09:29:02 EDT Another one bites the dust! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Another-one-bites-the-dust-22271249

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNQRfBAzSzo


Feel sorry for the customers but I'm not surprised
AT&T would do such a crappy thing?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Another-one-bites-the-dust-22271249 Tue, 21 Apr 2009 09:22:36 EDT