Eat Me
join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ | That company is finished
I can't imagine TWC having any customers when this whole fiasco is over. |
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20
| said by Eat Me  :I can't imagine TWC having any customers when this whole fiasco is over. I can, becuase it's not all about speeds and some people could care less. Many people aren't going to see the metered billing now so that battle has been won.
To me, the way I read this, is like Karl said, they're pouting. This is just the next move in a PR campaign. If people stepped back and do NOT respond to this and further force the issue, ie: putting more fuel on their fire, DS3 will come out.
They're eventually going to have to renew their franchise agreements and the local governments, those people that actually are forced to live with those services, are going to speak up. The local levels tend to be more effective than the feds anyway.
It is, however, funny to watch these same PR games played out in public and how they can flame bait the public and government and keep their agenda's moving forward, in the exact direction they want. The best way to deal with THIS particular move is to ignore them. Fight the metered billing front, but this "we're not deploying DS3" card should be ignored. |
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Rob
In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA
Premium
join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
 ·Comcast
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said by Eat Me :I can't imagine TWC having any customers when this whole fiasco is over. There is one advantage that they have that keeps them alive - and that is that they serve areas where there is virtually no competition which forces consumers to subscribe to their service.
If it wasn't for Comcast, my fastest Internet would be 1.5/256 from AT&T. And that's been the fastest that they offer since BellSouth started offering Internet in my area. |
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JSRoman
Premium
join:2005-03-10
Callahan, FL | reply to Eat Me
They will plenty of subs since the majority of their subs probably haven't even noticed the broadband storm going on. The small minority that can will jump ship if they haven't already. |
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dforan
join:2000-12-09
Willoughby, OH
·RoadRunner Cable
1 edit | reply to Eat Me
said by Eat Me :I can't imagine TWC having any customers when this whole fiasco is over. Where I live there is NO OPTION accept AT&T DSL. The city fathers saw to that in their awarding service to a single provider so they will have some grumpy clients like  |
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RR User
@rr.com
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said by fiberguy :They're eventually going to have to renew their franchise agreements and the local governments, those people that actually are forced to live with those services, are going to speak up. The local levels tend to be more effective than the feds anyway. Too bad because of Verizon's lobbying and legislation that passed because of it, MANY franchises are now state run and not local. Now in many areas locals have fewer rights and abilities to demand concessions for service. |
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SmD Frylock
join:2001-08-09
Farrell, PA
·RoadRunner Cable
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In many cases you don't have a choice.
I can get TWC, but DSL (Verizon) is tricky since i'm on the fringe of the CO range, and even if I was in range, it would be 3000/768, which is about 1/5 the bandwidth i'm seeing from TWC.
Off topic, The Coyote choke holding the Roadrunner is the best summary for what TWC is doing to its service. Surprised it's not used here. »4.bp.blogspot.com/_qyC51KZhzG8/S···te+1.jpg
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lacklusterbb
join:2009-03-12
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Actually, they sold many of the less competitive markets in their deal with the newly-formed company Windjammer Cable. So, the markets Time Warner retained are in regions where there is more competition than they'd probably like. I suspect, if they aren't careful, their decision to not broadly deploy DOCSIS 3.0 may ultimately cost them market share. Unfortunately for them, dragging their feet until they see market share losses may mean permanent loss of customers and revenue--definitely a slippery slope and one that may ultimately lead to Time Warner Cable becoming a target for acquisition itself. If I were a shareholder in this company, I'd definitely consider selling if they don't get their act together with in the next 2-3 quarters. |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable
| TWC kept systems where it made sense. They control Ohio- TWC NEO, Mid-Ohio, and Cinci and Dayton areas. Where most of MidOhio and Dayton was Western Ohio. and Mid-Ohio was Columbus. You can't forget they picked up EVERY Adelphia system in Ohio as well.
I couldn't see TWC selling any system in Ohio. And Ohio doesn't even have FiOS and U-Verse is very limited in the cities it's in. So really' they have no worries here. |
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20 | reply to RR User
What is "many"... I may be wrong, but I only know of a couple of states that have gone state wide.. |
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Dude111
An Awesome Dude
Premium
join:2003-08-04
USA
 ·Time Warner VOIP
1 edit | reply to Eat Me
What a bunch of idiotic babies!!
Wah Wah,we cant extract more $$$ from you so your not getting DOS 3.0 -- (WHO CARES -- 2.0 IS FAST ENOUGH!! (IN MY OPINION SO IS 1.0))
said by Metatron2008 :
Sounds alot like a kid throwing a tempur tantrum to me.
Thats exactly what it is..... LIKE IT REALLY MATTERS!! |
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tjp375
join:2008-07-02
Akron, OH | reply to hottboiinnc
Couldn't have said it better myself. The Ohio market will be the last to see any change. There is no state wide competition here. |
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JoeBlowJr
@charter.com
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said by fiberguy :What is "many"... I may be wrong, but I only know of a couple of states that have gone state wide.. These have state franchises:
Arizona
California
Florida
Georgia
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Kansas
Michigan
Missouri
New Jersey
Nevada
North Carolina
Ohio
South Carolina
South Dakota
Texas
Virginia
Wisconsin |
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RR Conductor
RailRoadDude
Premium
join:2002-04-02
Redwood Valley, CA
·Comcast
1 edit | reply to dforan
said by dforan :said by Eat Me :I can't imagine TWC having any customers when this whole fiasco is over. Where I live there is NO OPTION accept AT&T DSL. The city fathers saw to that in their awarding service to a single provider so they will have some grumpy clients like Here it's the opposite, the only choice for broadband is Comcast HSI, our AT&T CO (formerly Pacific Bell, serves Redwood Valley and Calpella) isn't even equipped for DSL, the closest DSL to us is in Ukiah, 9 miles south.
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SLD
Premium
join:2002-04-17
1 edit | reply to Rob
Wow, 7 years ago when I lived in Cuba, I mean Kendall, we had 5Mbit/sec DSL at our apartment. |
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JoeBlowJr
@charter.com | reply to JoeBlowJr
Oh yeah, these too:
Connecticut
Tennessee
Idaho |
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JoeBlowJr
@charter.com | reply to fiberguy
and these:
Alaska
Hawaii
Rhode Island
Vermont |
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Rob
In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA
Premium
join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
·Comcast
1 edit | reply to SLD
said by SLD :Wow, 7 years ago when I lived in Cuba, I mean Kendall, we had 5Mbit/sec DSL at our apartment. Lucky you. |
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20 | reply to JoeBlowJr
I have to laugh at Rhode Island.. that state IS a city. |
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burgerwars
join:2004-09-11
Northridge, CA
·voip.ms
·RoadRunner Cable
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said by Dude111 :What a bunch of idiotic babies!! Wah Wah,we cant extract more $$$ from you so your not getting DOS 3.0 -- (WHO CARES -- 2.0 IS FAST ENOUGH!! (IN MY OPINION SO IS 1.0)) said by Metatron2008 :
Sounds alot like a kid throwing a tempur tantrum to me.
Thats exactly what it is..... LIKE IT REALLY MATTERS!! I'm also thinking they're crybabies. Why doesn't TWC start posting right here, to exactly say why they think caps as low as 1 gb are more than enough? It's because they aren't. This weekend I ran Windows Update on an Windows XP Pro system that hasn't been updated in a while. All those update downloads alone ended up being over 1 gb.
Also, why would even their customers bother to upgrade to a faster speed if they'll hit a gb limit early in their monthly billing period? If they had reasonable limits that start at 250 to 500 gb, their customers may be able to live with it. These 1, 5, 25, 50 gb limits are a joke and are just gouging their customers.
I live in an area (San Fernando Valley) that is both served by Verizon and AT&T. Often it's just what side of the street you're on that determines what territory you're in. I dare TWC to try and charge different rates, or to determine which areas get upgraded to DOCSIS 3.0, based on what the local phone company is in the same franchise area. |
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