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| [Wired] WRT610N v1 I just got one of these routers and am having a real problem connecting with it on my XP-Pro desktop machine using a wired LAN connection.
I can't access the router's web utility 192.168.1.1 or browse anything online. The WAN connection seems practically non-existent even though I can successfully ping the router. The odd issue is that I can connect using my Vista laptop, no problem either wirelessly or wired.
I spent over two hours on the phone with Linksys and got practically nowhere. They're saying since the router can be accessed by the laptop, it must be a browser issue on the XP-Pro desktop.
This desktop machine works perfectly well with my "old" router, and I wanted to use the USB storage feature on the new router, but that seems hopeless, if I can't even connect to it wired. I also was considering going gigabit LAN, but guess that'll have to wait.
Anyone else have a similar issue they resolved?
Thanks.
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clubs: | Re: [Wired] WRT610N v1 Yep, I wish I had any bright ideas...but I do not. I also have the WRT610N and it works equally well with Vista and XP Pro based machines here.
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| | | staticfree6
join:2002-08-03
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| By any chance, do you have your old router (or any other device or pc) attached to your LAN that might already be assigned that ip address 192.168.1.1 ? Could be a conflict of duplicate ip's and devices causing your odd symptom.
I asked this because you mentioned you had your old router that works fine with that ip address... if you also have that old router on and connected, it may be the reason for the odd connectivity behavour you are reporting.
Also, check your Linksys WRT610N config to make sure you don't have MAC filtering on which could be blocking out your Windows XP PC from connecting or being recognized.
Good luck! (I have a new WRT610N on route to me this coming week and hope that I don't have problems with it either!). | |
| | staticfree6
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| Re: [Wired] WRT610N v1 I feel I should update this thread since my last post. I received my WRT610N V1 and have not experienced any wired connection problems at all with it connected as an Access Point only.
I am wondering if the earlier batch of WRT610N routers might be buggy. I noticed that on the bottom of my router's label it says Model WRT610N V1. Whereas I saw some pictures of another one on ebay showing the label on the bottom of their router and it only said model WRT610N. It did not have the "V1" part showing.
Maybe they updated the build somehow and marked the fixed ones explicitly with the label "WRT610N V1"? (like maybe they added more heat sinking or something, I am just guessing at this). But I notice there are two versions out there as per my description above. Then again, maybe there is no difference at all between the two. As far as I know, they are all still considered V1 models at this time. | |
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| Re: [Wired] WRT610N v1 said by staticfree6  :I am wondering if the earlier batch of WRT610N routers might be buggy. I noticed that on the bottom of my router's label it says Model WRT610N V1. Whereas I saw some pictures of another one on ebay showing the label on the bottom of their router and it only said model WRT610N. It did not have the "V1" part showing. To date, they are all "version 1", there has yet to be any revision in the hardware.
It is always "tricky" to buy a router right after it comes out, at any rate! In the case of the WRT610N, I don't believe there was a hardware issue, however, the initail firmware was considered suspect, and the latest firmware version is far more stable.
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| | | | staticfree6
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| Re: [Wired] WRT610N v1 I know that there is officially only one version of the WRT610N released thus far. What I am saying (or implying or guessing or asking) is that there may be two batches or versions within this supposed "V1" release. The earlier batches only had on their under label the words "WRT610N" as the model designation. This is the model I speculate that most of the early adopters are complaining about with constant dropouts (possibly due to an overheating situation under heavy continuous traffic streaming). Then later in this game, there appeared newer batch with model designations underside of "WRT610N V1" marked on them. I've read a similar post somewhere in another Linksys forum that someone else has noticed this label change on the Linksys WRT320N models also. The ones marked with "V1" seem to be stable. The ones without "V1" on the label seem to be the ones everyone reports problems with.
Now, I am only proposing a possible explanation for why the early reports were so problematic on these early models and now some folks (me included) are not seeing these problems of drop outs. I have a new Linksys WRT610N V1 version marked on the underside of my router. It has been overall trouble free and stable with the latest Jan 09, 2009 firmware update.
With that said, maybe if everyone with problems can check their router's label underneath the router and report exactly what model is stated on it, then we might be able to weed out the bad batch versus the good batch of these routers that Linksys maybe quietly changed? (maybe all they did was add better heat-sinking, who knows). | |
| | | | | staticfree6
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United State
| Re: [Wired] WRT610N v1 Update, well I need to inform y'all now that the "V1" marking on the underside of the WRT610N router means nothing now. I've been running mine for about two weeks now using both bands (2.4Ghz and 5Ghz). Lately I've experienced quite a few times now where the radio signals on the 2.4Ghz band would just disappear. The signal strength as reported on my client laptops (using internal Intel Pro Wireless 5300agn cards) would become weaker and weaker and then fail to be found. I would need to reboot the router and then the 2.4Ghz band would come back instantly full RF strength. Odd.
The 5Ghz band did this only once so far that I owned this router. The 2.4Ghz band has done it 4 or 5 times now. Runs for about a day and then the signal mysteriously goes away.
I believe it is a firmware bug issue as my router is not real hot and when I unplug the power and plug it back in immediately (no time to let it cool off) the signals are back instantly to normal levels. So it probably is not a overheating issue. Linksys developers are weak in the brain for their buggy firmware(s).
I have now also a Linksys WRT320 Dual Band router. It's 2.4Ghz band does the same thing! After a day of running continuously, the signal would just get weak and then disappear completely where laptops cannot find the SSID signal. Only a reboot brings it back. For sure all this is firmware related (maybe a memory leak in their algorithm kills the router after a certain amount of traffic is processed. Just my observations living with these two Linksys routers.
My Netgear WNR3500 router is still running and never has to be rebooted... but it is just a single bander (2.4Ghz).
I hope Linksys releases new firmware to fix this issue where signals (SSID broadcasts) just disappear and cannot be found by clients until a reboot. | |
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| Re: [Wired] WRT610N v1 I do not buy that the WRT610N has buggy firmware, only for one reason: If this was a firmware issue, then everyone else would be suffering through the same connectivity issues...and I just have not had any of that. I run both bands, and have had zero connectivity issues since day 1.
Now, could it be simply an individual "lemon"? Absolutely! Sad, but sure, it happens in any brand name. That you now have another router doing the same thing, however, would lead me to suspect that there may be non-router issues at work here...
Maybe I am just "lucky" but I doubt it. I live in a large apartment complex, with plenty of WiFi networks, both DSL and cable, all around me, yet I have no signal "fade" at all. If the WRT610N were prone to this due to bad firmware, then I would expect that to happen here.
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| | | | | | | staticfree6
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| Re: [Wired] WRT610N v1 I hope it is a firmware issue because that means it can be fixed.
Well I am happy you are lucky with yours PeteC2.
I know it is not any other factors (like my laptop clients, windows Vista/XP) causing the linksys stops broadcasting its SSID because I have other routers and access points going at the same time and they do not disappear. Also my far away neighboring wi-fi signals are even picked up by my laptop clients when the Linksys routers signals disappear. It is the router that stops sending out signal for some reason or other on the 2.4Ghz band.
It has not happened since I rebooted the router last night (almost a day one by now) and signal is still there strong. My son was associated and connected to the 2.4Ghz band of the WRT610N that night that it stopped broadcasting... he said he used his Sony PS3 to download a couple of files. So maybe that has something to do with it. Like I said certain types of traffic activity may cause the symptom. I connect to the router via wireless-N adapters, his PS3 I guess is 802.11b/g which would cause the router to negotiate mixed mode operation. This could trigger the buggy signal behavour. I just don't know at this point in time.
It's odd the router stays stable for a long while sometimes and then all of a sudden out of nowhere does this quirk and you cannot see its SSID doing a wi-fi scan from your laptop.
Hope Linksys can sort it out in the near future. | |
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United State
3 edits | Re: [Wired] WRT610N v1 Update: since my last post after I had rebooted the WRT610N router, it has not dropped out either band on me. Well not 100% though, as I did notice a couple of times where a band (2.4Ghz or 5Ghz) would disappear on my laptop scan but later on mysteriously just show up detected again (fyi, this laptop uses an internal Intel 5300agn wi-fi mini-pcie card. Why this is important and significant is explained below).
Same for my other Linksys WRT320N router which is running on 5Ghz band mode. Tonight I was observing my wi-fi signals with a SSID scanner utility called InSSIDer as well as Windows 7 own scanner.
The 5Ghz SSID from my WRT320N just disappeared this evening. I checked to make sure my WRT320N router was still powered on and its status lights blinking normally... it was. So I went and got my other laptop that uses a GigaByte Atheros based wireless a/bgn mini-pcie adapter and booted it up to check wi-fi signals and SSID's.
Whoa and behold, the 5Ghz WRT320N SSID signal showed up on that laptop! The signal still however failed to show up on the Intel 5300agn based laptop. So there is something here about the Intel cards and Linksys routers not playing 100% well with each other. (I think I've read or recall mention about Intel cards having problems with Linksys routers somewhere before) but I thought that Intel (or Linksys) fixed it by now.
Anyway, I used my other Atheros based wireless laptop to connect to the 5Ghz WRT320N and it did so successfully. After which, all of a sudden my Intel 5300agn based laptop wi-fi scanners now show the WRT320N SSID returned back from the dead! Something about the Linksys signal protocol changes and plays funny games with the Intel 5300agn adapter card.
So what this means is that my earlier reports that the Linksys WRT610N and the WRT320N routers dropping signals is not totally 100% accurate... the signals are still there, just not seen by the Intel 5300agn adapters until the signal protocol of sorts is cleared and then the Intel 5300agn sees the signal again and can connect. (when it does not see the signal it cannot even connect even if you tried to manually force enter the SSID and passphrase). I should also point out here that I have my Intel 5300agn card set to "Auto 20/40Mhz" channel bonding mode for both 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz bands in the Windows Intel driver configuration settings.
I don't know if the problem with this scenario lies with a flaw in the Linksys router algorithms or with the Intel 5300agn driver or with both! But it is identified here for all to know.
P.S. - update: one caveat here, I seem to now recall that I could not see missing SSID signals from these routers not only from my Intel 5300agn based cards, but I think I also could not see them one time before (last week) using an external Netgear USB dual band wireless dongle model WNDA3100 Adapter. So it may not only be Intel chipsets that are affected but other brands as well. Hmmm, this sort of then points the blame on something fishy going on with the Linksys router signal protocols... yeah? | |
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| Re: [Wired] WRT610N v1 I don't know about the Intel 5300a/g/n WiFi chipset, as I do not have it on any of my current machines, however, I do have both the Broadcom and Atheros 11g internal WiFi adapters, as well as the Linksys Dual-Band Express card adapter, and none of these exhibit that issue (of course, one would expect the Linksys adapter to play nice with the WRT610N!) either on the 2.4ghz nore 5ghz channels.
For what it is worth, the Intel WiFi chipsets have not always enjoyed a reputation for stability...however, is it the adapter, or is it the router? Is it some other issue altogether? 
In the end, I would say that there comes a point where you simply find what works, and use it, hell with the "brand", yes?
I did not wish to imply that because the WRT610N works and plays very nicely on my network, that you had something "wrong"...just that if it were a firmware issue, then it should replicate on most folk's networks, and this apparently is not the case. However, for what this router costs, I would not let it drive me crazy! If you have exhausted reasonable trouble-shooting steps, then I'd return it and go with another brand/model.
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| | | | | | | | | | staticfree6
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| Re: [Wired] WRT610N v1 said by PeteC2 :In the end, I would say that there comes a point where you simply find what works, and use it, hell with the "brand", yes? Yes, I am not stuck loyal to any brand. I will go with what ever is best of breed at the time I am in the market for whatever.
said by PeteC2 :I did not wish to imply that because the WRT610N works and plays very nicely on my network, that you had something "wrong"...just that if it were a firmware issue, then it should replicate on most folk's networks, and this apparently is not the case. However, for what this router costs, I would not let it drive me crazy! If you have exhausted reasonable trouble-shooting steps, then I'd return it and go with another brand/model. I bought these Linksys routers new off of ebay knowing and ready to accept the consequences that they may be bug ridden and not returnable to the seller. So I cannot return them. Luckily they are pretty good routers overall. Just the interoperability quirks I've identified above in previous postings. My WRT610N has been running with no down time nor need for reboots since the last time I mentioned I rebooted it in this thread. I don't need to return the routers and get other brands... I already have the other brand routers all running fine co-existing with these Linksys routers. I am only using the WRT610N as an upstairs dual band access point. Never tried it as my main router gateway to the Internet yet because I have a Dlink DIR-655 A4 doing that duty and a Netgear WNR3500 previously doing my gateway duty. I got and put the Dlink DIR-655 A4 as my gateway because it had avery high throughput speed rating in tests for WAN-to-LAN and LAN-to-WAN traffic (higher rated than these Linksys routers). So I am overall happy with my setup. It's just that only the Linksys routers (both of them) randomly exhibit that mysterious SSID signal disappearance on my laptops due to incompatible signal protocol handling and processing. All other brand routers signals I am using never disappear. So something is up here with the Linksys router's signal processing algorithm(s). | |
| | | | | | | | | | staticfree6
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United State
|  Re: [Wired] WRT610N v1
Bottom line, WRT-610N dual band router seems to be robust and reliable. Has not been rebooted since May 20th or there abouts, and it is still stable and running non-stop today June 10, 2009. Go buy it if you need a simultaneous Dual-Band router. I rate it A-Okay for the $106 I bought it for on ebay.  | |
| | | | | | | | | | RBNetEngr
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| Re: [Wired] WRT610N v1 If you have two APs in your home, both running on the same channel, then they are going to interfere with each other. You need to use a different channel for each AP. There are 11 available channels, but only three do not overlap - 1, 6, and 11. By default, I believe that they are set to use Channel 1. So, change the other AP to Channel 6 or 11. Actually, if you have one AP running at either end (either Channel 1 OR Channel 11), then the second can run on any channel that's Channel 6 or past (6-11 if one AP is on Channel 1; 1-6 if one AP is on Channel 11).
I had two wireless routers set up in my home for awhile - my old 2Wire router (from ATT UVerse), and my new WRT610N. They ran on different channels as I describe above, and there were no problems at all. I ran it this way for about 45 days, until I cut everything over from UVerse to my new provider.
Also, you should use your PC to look for available wireless networks and see what channels your neighbors are using. If there is a strong signal from a neighbor, and it's using the same channel that you're using, you may experience random problems due to interference.
I purchased my WRT610N and immediately upgraded the code to the latest version. The code that was on it was over a year old. I have had zero problems with the unit. I only use it as a wireless AP, and use a Cisco ASA5505 as my firewall to the Internet.
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San Antonio, TX
| Re: [Wired] WRT610N v1 There is another Linksys firmware update for the WRT610N.
1.00.03.B15 July 28, 2009
Also, when you go to download firmware, you are now prompted for a version of WRT610N, with both Version 1 and Version 2 showing up.
So, apparently there have been some hardware changes made recently.
Hope this helps.
-rb | |
| vegasmach1
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Las Vegas, NV | Just to add to this drop-out issue. My 610N recently starting having drop-outs too. I'm running the B15 update, and have a V1. | |
| | Argentum
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Omaha, NE
| Re: [Wired] WRT610N v1 Have you found a solution? I've got the same modem with same firmware as you and the Internet connection drops after a few days. Sometimes it lasts a week, sometimes just two days. The internet connect is good because I can plug in directly to the modem and surf with no issues. The only solutions have been to unplug the 610N or to click reboot from the admin console. | |
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