Topic 'Don't like the terms, don't sign the contract' in forum '' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Dont-like-the-terms-dont-sign-the-contract-22289224 en Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:20:14 EDT Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:20:14 EDT Re: Don't like the terms, don't sign the contract http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Dont-like-the-terms-dont-sign-the-contract-22294060
Again, anyone who doesn't think the ETF is fair, shouldn't have signed the contract. Now if the service sucked, that is a different matter..then it's a case of Clearwire not delivering their end of the deal.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Dont-like-the-terms-dont-sign-the-contract-22294060 Sat, 25 Apr 2009 11:47:38 EDT Re: Don't like the terms, don't sign the contract http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Dont-like-the-terms-dont-sign-the-contract-22292501 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Dont-like-the-terms-dont-sign-the-contract-22292501 Fri, 24 Apr 2009 22:12:40 EDT Re: Don't like the terms, don't sign the contract http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Dont-like-the-terms-dont-sign-the-contract-22292493

What installation and set up costs did ClearWire absorb?

Perhaps the modem? That is always returnable. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Dont-like-the-terms-dont-sign-the-contract-22292493 Fri, 24 Apr 2009 22:11:26 EDT Re: Don't like the terms, don't sign the contract http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Dont-like-the-terms-dont-sign-the-contract-22290399
Even the best companies have churn.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Dont-like-the-terms-dont-sign-the-contract-22290399 Fri, 24 Apr 2009 14:28:59 EDT Re: Don't like the terms, don't sign the contract http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Dont-like-the-terms-dont-sign-the-contract-22290255 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Dont-like-the-terms-dont-sign-the-contract-22290255 Fri, 24 Apr 2009 14:06:00 EDT Re: Don't like the terms, don't sign the contract http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Dont-like-the-terms-dont-sign-the-contract-22289999 said by cdru:

If they change the terms of the legal contract, you have the right to reject them. Of course if you reject them, you also give up the service.
That's the problem when there is a lack of real competition. I suppose you could give up indoor plumbing and live in a cave but I'm not suggesting you do so.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Dont-like-the-terms-dont-sign-the-contract-22289999 Fri, 24 Apr 2009 13:15:43 EDT Re: Don't like the terms, don't sign the contract http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Dont-like-the-terms-dont-sign-the-contract-22289949 said by Sammer:

There wouldn't be so much bitching and moaning if the companies didn't write such one-sided contracts.And yet I've never seen a one-sided contract that didn't require both parties signing/agreeing to it.

They tend to reserve the right to change the terms of the contract so why shouldn't consumers also be allowed to.
If they change the terms of the legal contract, you have the right to reject them. Of course if you reject them, you also give up the service. From Clearwires very own Terms of Service (emphasis added):
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1. Agreement Governing Use of Service. The current version of this Agreement (including the Service Plans) can be found at www.clearwire.com/company/legal/terms.htm. Clearwire may change this Agreement or the Service from time to time by sending you an email notification to the email address associated with your account, or announcing the Service changes in the "Service Announcements" section of Clearwire's website: »www.clearwire.com/company/legal/···ents.htm. Such changes will become effective once you have been notified; afterwards, and your continued use of the Service or Equipment will constitute your acceptance of any such changes. However, if you do not wish to continue Service after a change that is materially disadvantageous to you, you may terminate this Agreement by providing written notice to Clearwire within twenty (20) days of the effective date of the modification, and you will not be charged any Early Termination Fee(as described below)...


Cellular service has the same provisions usually any many people have gotten out of contracts they no longer want when a carrier raises fees, even for almost trivial things like directory assistance charges that most people never even use.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Dont-like-the-terms-dont-sign-the-contract-22289949 Fri, 24 Apr 2009 13:04:33 EDT Re: Don't like the terms, don't sign the contract http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Dont-like-the-terms-dont-sign-the-contract-22289897 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Dont-like-the-terms-dont-sign-the-contract-22289897 Fri, 24 Apr 2009 12:56:29 EDT Re: Don't like the terms, don't sign the contract http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Dont-like-the-terms-dont-sign-the-contract-22289782 said by cdru:

But don't bitch and moan that it's unfair that you are stuck with a bill for something you agreed to.
There wouldn't be so much bitching and moaning if the companies didn't write such one-sided contracts. They tend to reserve the right to change the terms of the contract so why shouldn't consumers also be allowed to.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Dont-like-the-terms-dont-sign-the-contract-22289782 Fri, 24 Apr 2009 12:38:31 EDT Re: Don't like the terms, don't sign the contract http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Dont-like-the-terms-dont-sign-the-contract-22289603
If they're able to get out of the ETF for simply moving, what's next, building leases don't matter? "Hey I had to move".]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Dont-like-the-terms-dont-sign-the-contract-22289603 Fri, 24 Apr 2009 12:01:04 EDT Re: Don't like the terms, don't sign the contract http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Dont-like-the-terms-dont-sign-the-contract-22289571 said by Bit:

The grounds for suing over the ETF is that if Clearwire provides only sub-standard service then they aren't living up to their end of the deal...Clearwire, with an unusuable product is in breech of contract, voiding it.If you reread my first sentence, I said aside from Clearwire not fullfilling the terms of the contract and crappy service. I agree that if they can't provide the service then there is a problem.

I did not read all 77 pages of the complaint. I have better things to do. But I did skim a few pages. That, plus Karl's summary mention one of the things that they were complaining about was that the contract wasn't being voided when people were moving to a non-covered area. To me, that isn't a reason that the provider legally should have to void the contract over. If they want to, great. But not legally forced to do.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Dont-like-the-terms-dont-sign-the-contract-22289571 Fri, 24 Apr 2009 11:53:44 EDT Re: Don't like the terms, don't sign the contract http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Dont-like-the-terms-dont-sign-the-contract-22289506
The grounds for suing over the ETF is that if Clearwire provides only sub-standard service then they aren't living up to their end of the deal...Clearwire, with an unusuable product is in breech of contract, voiding it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Dont-like-the-terms-dont-sign-the-contract-22289506 Fri, 24 Apr 2009 11:43:28 EDT Don't like the terms, don't sign the contract http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Dont-like-the-terms-dont-sign-the-contract-22289224
If you sign the contract, and YOU chose to move, how is that Clearwire's fault? I'm presuming the EFT is to recoup the price of acquisition, equipment costs, and/or promotional rates. If you leave by your own choice, Clearwire still had those costs that may not have been recouped.

Yes it is nice that other companies void the contract if you move. And apparently that's nice for other companies. But don't bitch and moan that it's unfair that you are stuck with a bill for something you agreed to.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Dont-like-the-terms-dont-sign-the-contract-22289224 Fri, 24 Apr 2009 10:45:44 EDT