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arealdsltech
Premium
join:2007-02-27
Oklahoma City, OK

reply to houkouonchi

Re: U-Verse is FTTP?

FTTP uses Ethernet from the ONT to the RG at 100Mbps. No interleaving on fiber and no VDSL on AT&T FTTP equipment that I have installed.


houkouonchi

join:2002-07-22
Ontario, CA

reply to ztmike
Damn, I might have actually been willing to drop my DSL for u-verse if I was in an FTTP area. Can anyone on FTTP show me a traceroute to a close server?


Enlightener

join:2006-01-28
Cedar Park, TX

tracert mail.yahoo.com

Tracing route to login.lga1.b.yahoo.com [209.191.92.114]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.254
2 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 99-11-252-2.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net [99.11.252.2]
3 * * * Request timed out.
4 * * * Request timed out.
5 5 ms 2 ms 2 ms 75.8.128.14
6 3 ms 2 ms 1 ms bb1-g2-0.austtx.sbcglobal.net [151.164.92.90]
7 9 ms 9 ms 8 ms ex2-p14-0.eqdltx.sbcglobal.net [151.164.41.155]

8 15 ms 8 ms 9 ms asn10310-10-yahoo.eqdltx.sbcglobal.net [151.164.250.10]
9 10 ms 10 ms 9 ms ae2-p101.msr1.mud.yahoo.com [216.115.104.107]
10 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms te-9-1.bas-c1.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.193.9]
11 9 ms 10 ms 9 ms l2.login.vip.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.92.114]

Trace complete.



ILpt4U
Premium
join:2006-11-12
Lisle, IL
kudos:4

10 ms from Austin to San Fran ain't too shabby...

I'm jealous =)



houkouonchi

join:2002-07-22
Ontario, CA
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
·Charter
·AT&T U-Verse
·DSL EXTREME

said by ILpt4U:

10 ms from Austin to San Fran ain't too shabby...

I'm jealous =)
It is nice, but that IP is not in san fransisco, its in texas. The 2ms latency to the backbone in Austin is pretty nice though.
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Chugging along on 2x 6016/768k DSL Extreme DSL lines and one 6016/768 ATT DSL DIrect line as well as one 16mb/2mb Charter cable line for a combined total of just over 32 meg download and 3 meg up (after overhead). yay!


ILpt4U
Premium
join:2006-11-12
Lisle, IL
kudos:4

Really?

I used a few different IP locator websites, and they all said San Fran

Of course IP locators are not always perfect



houkouonchi

join:2002-07-22
Ontario, CA
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
·Charter
·AT&T U-Verse
·DSL EXTREME

Yup, alot of them are inaccurate. Also 10ms from texas -> califrnia = impossible. You can see it spikes to 8-9ms just by the time it hits eqdltx which I would say is also in texas. Here is a traceroute to that IP from socal which shows much worse latency to that IP than northern california:

# traceroute -i eth3  209.191.92.114 -I
traceroute to l2.login.vip.mud.yahoo.com (209.191.92.114), 30 hops max, 46 byte packets
 1  ip-66-33-193-2 (66.33.193.2)  2.320 ms  7.958 ms  8.475 ms
 2  nav-core02 (66.33.201.65)  8.729 ms  3.740 ms  1.738 ms
 3  ge-0-1-0.405.ar1.LAX3.gblx.net (67.17.162.161)  1.997 ms  1.246 ms  0.979 ms
 4  te9-4-10GE.ar2.LAX1.gblx.net (67.17.75.97)  0.974 ms  5.172 ms  3.741 ms
 5  yahoo-1.ar2.LAX2.gblx.net (64.208.110.122)  2.229 ms  1.019 ms  2.255 ms
 6  so-2-0-0.pat1.dax.yahoo.com (216.115.96.50)  62.182 ms  58.960 ms  66.440 ms
 7  ae2-p110.msr2.mud.yahoo.com (216.115.104.109)  65.935 ms  60.581 ms ae2-p100.msr1.mud.yahoo.com (216.115.104.105)  62.438 ms
 8  te-9-1.bas-c2.mud.yahoo.com (68.142.193.11)  61.031 ms  68.287 ms te-8-1.bas-c2.mud.yahoo.com (68.142.193.7)  67.940 ms
 9  l2.login.vip.mud.yahoo.com (209.191.92.114)  65.270 ms  62.384 ms  65.944 ms
 

# traceroute -i eth3  sfo.speakeasy.net -I
traceroute to dns.sfo1.speakeasy.net (64.81.79.2), 30 hops max, 46 byte packets
 1  ip-66-33-193-2 (66.33.193.2)  0.953 ms  0.436 ms  0.494 ms
 2  nav-core02 (66.33.201.65)  26.963 ms  191.837 ms  1.967 ms
 3  border21.ge4-3.newdream-8.lax.pnap.net (216.52.220.145)  1.733 ms  0.467 ms  0.740 ms
 4  core2.po2-20g-bbnet2.lax.pnap.net (216.52.255.66)  1.241 ms  2.122 ms  3.244 ms
 5  GigabitEthernet2-0-0.GW3.LAX15.ALTER.NET (157.130.236.109)  9.721 ms  0.474 ms  0.487 ms
 6  0.so-4-0-0.XL1.LAX15.ALTER.NET (152.63.112.106)  12.231 ms  0.489 ms  1.213 ms
 7  0.so-5-2-0.XT1.LAX7.ALTER.NET (152.63.1.225)  1.488 ms  1.097 ms  1.495 ms
 8  p64-5-0-1.r20.lsanca03.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.8.69)  0.973 ms  2.597 ms  3.976 ms
 9  as-0.r21.snjsca04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.4.96)  10.230 ms  12.365 ms  9.965 ms
     MPLS Label=648487 CoS=0 TTL=255 S=0
     MPLS Label=354561 CoS=0 TTL=1 S=1
10  ae-0.r20.plalca01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.4.118)  14.465 ms  11.779 ms  12.985 ms
     MPLS Label=354561 CoS=0 TTL=255 S=1
11  xe-3-4.r04.plalca01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.4.242)  166.656 ms  203.512 ms  203.056 ms
12  140.174.28.114 (140.174.28.114)  11.730 ms  11.982 ms  12.229 ms
13  dns.sfo1.speakeasy.net (64.81.79.2)  14.974 ms  11.414 ms  11.251 ms
 

Latency from socal -> texas is usually more around 30-40 ms + gateway latency:

# traceroute -i eth3 dfw.speakeasy.net -I
traceroute to dns.dfw1.speakeasy.net (64.81.127.2), 30 hops max, 46 byte packets
 1  ip-66-33-193-2 (66.33.193.2)  2.670 ms  0.790 ms  0.473 ms
 2  nav-core02 (66.33.201.65)  0.479 ms  0.575 ms  0.497 ms
 3  border21.ge4-3.newdream-8.lax.pnap.net (216.52.220.145)  1.469 ms  3.373 ms  2.734 ms
 4  core2.po2-20g-bbnet2.lax.pnap.net (216.52.255.66)  3.230 ms  0.851 ms  0.730 ms
 5  GigabitEthernet2-0-0.GW3.LAX15.ALTER.NET (157.130.236.109)  0.494 ms  3.057 ms  3.480 ms
 6  0.so-4-0-0.XL2.LAX15.ALTER.NET (152.63.112.110)  2.989 ms  0.578 ms  0.662 ms
 7  0.so-7-3-0.XT2.LAX7.ALTER.NET (152.63.112.62)  0.746 ms  3.398 ms  2.226 ms
 8  p64-5-0-1.r20.lsanca03.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.8.69)  1.722 ms  0.697 ms  0.740 ms
 9  as-2.r20.dllstx09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.169)  35.470 ms  37.027 ms  38.452 ms
     MPLS Label=300352 CoS=0 TTL=255 S=1
10  po-1.r01.dllstx09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.3.74)  35.714 ms  33.873 ms  34.200 ms
11  ge-3-3.r01.dllstx09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (157.238.224.78)  38.213 ms  39.777 ms  40.389 ms
12  dns.dfw1.speakeasy.net (64.81.127.2)  37.960 ms  36.489 ms  43.198 ms
 

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Chugging along on 2x 6016/768k DSL Extreme DSL lines and one 6016/768 ATT DSL DIrect line as well as one 16mb/2mb Charter cable line for a combined total of just over 32 meg download and 3 meg up (after overhead). yay!


Clever_Proxy
Premium
join:2004-05-14
Chicago, IL
Reviews:
·Clear Wireless

reply to ILpt4U

said by houkouonchi:

Almost zero.

Seriously, the normal ping in my area for a VDSL customer to Chicago speedtest.net servers is ~25 ms. For a FTTP customer, it is ~4 ms. Much quicker pings.
I'm one of those in the Chicago area that has the 20ms ping on the 1st hop. It is slightly annoying but it is tolerable. FTTP would be nice but i doubt it will ever happen in my area since it is nothing but copper and old homes.

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