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knightmb
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Re: What's a "privacy pirate"?
said by cdru  :If I'm a ship pirate, I take possession of other people's ships and property. If I'm a movie or music pirate, I infringe on others copyrights (aka "steal") the movie or music. So using the same logic, a privacy pirate must be someone who steals people's privacy. That sounds much more like Phorm's business model then anyone who is fighting against them (except maybe direct competitors in the exact same industry). The first one is close, except that pirates don't always steal ships. They can raid them, they just kill everyone for fun, or they can trade. Pirates were those that wanted to get rich and operate outside of whatever established law at the time to get it.
Your second example is invalid though, since everything is a copyright, me just quoting you is infringing on your copyright, but stealing and copying are very two distinct legal terms. I can make a copy of your social security card but that doesn't mean I've stolen your social security number. Just like I can make a copy of a movie, but unless I'm selling copies of it, it's certainly not even in the same legal book as stealing.
Of course, their use of "privacy pirate" is just another misused term meant to confuse those too lazy to check what the topic of discussion is. Pirate and stealing is a fun term to though around today because it's popular and is a way to attack people's emotions rather than encourage them to think critically. We might as well start using more cliche sayings for those that protect privacy like "Justice League of Privacy" to make a silly point. 
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birdfeedr
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Is iFrame mode the default on first visit?
To be a better approach, consider having an introductory page with a link to take the reader to one mode or the other. Explanation of the different modes on the introduction page.
Just a suggestion.
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cdru
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said by knightmb :The first one is close, except that pirates don't always steal ships. They can raid them, they just kill everyone for fun, or they can trade. Pirates were those that wanted to get rich and operate outside of whatever established law at the time to get it. Well, if they raid a ship I would say that they are also taking possession of it, at least from an authority standpoint. They may give it back or abandon it, but they are still taking what is not theirs. Similarly, if they just in it for trade, they are still taking what's not theirs.
Your second example is invalid though, since everything is a copyright, me just quoting you is infringing on your copyright, I agree that everything is automatically covered under a copyright. However you are not infringing on my copyright as your use of it would be covered under fair use. You are commenting/critiquing it which is explicitly allowed under US copyright laws. Plus you also cited the original author.
but stealing and copying are very two distinct legal terms. Which is why I said infringe on others copyrights. I added "aka 'steal'" with steal in quotes as I know the difference from stealing and copyright infringement.
I can make a copy of your social security card but that doesn't mean I've stolen your social security number. Just like I can make a copy of a movie, but unless I'm selling copies of it, it's certainly not even in the same legal book as stealing. Legally you are correct. To the layman though, they are almost synonymous. "Stealing" or "copyright infringement", my point still is valid. You are acquiring something without the knowledge and/or permission of the person who owns it. | |
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