  workablob
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Water began running across our living room (Laminate) floor toward the center of the floor. It got underneath too.
We thought it had come from water pooling up in front of the windows but now we think it is coming in through the roof.
Question. If I file a claim and it is the roof leaking how does the insurance company typically treat that.
Could I get a new roof or have it repaired out of the claim or will they just fiz the damage done.
No flood insurance because we are high up. But if it was water pooling in front of the house it still counts as flooding I would assume.
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  Locutus65 A Closed Mouth Gathers No Foot Premium join:2001-05-24 Houston, TX clubs: | Can you see where it leaked through the roof/ceiling? If so that should be covered by your insurance as it is not considered a flood. -- Multitasking = screwing up several things at once. |
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| reply to workablob I just purchased flood insurance for the first time at my new house...reading it very carefully, 1 house does not a flood make. Basically if there aren't others affected or at least a certain square footage/acreage, flood insurance won't cover it.
That being said a normal pipe break, roof leak or whatever should be regular insurance. |
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  workablob
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| reply to Locutus65 said by Locutus65 :Can you see where it leaked through the roof/ceiling? It is dripping from one of the overhead beams. But that does not mean that it didn't also come from the pooling in the front of the house I guess.
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  workablob
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| reply to icp1 said by icp1 :I just purchased flood insurance for the first time at my new house...reading it very carefully, 1 house does not a flood make. Basically if there aren't others affected or at least a certain square footage/acreage, flood insurance won't cover it. That being said a normal pipe break, roof leak or whatever should be regular insurance. Good info. Thanks, Dave -- Gods are fragile things; they may be killed by a whiff of science or a dose of common sense. Chapman Cohen |
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  workablob
join:2004-06-09 Houston, TX 1 edit | I should also add that if it ever "flood"s at my house then the world is under water. 
We be up high.
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| reply to workablob if you are a DIY person, you might give it a shot and try to fix it yourself IMO. simple things as tree leaves getting stuck in the right place, not allowing the water to flow freely, can build back pressure making the water sneak under the shingles and finding it's way in house through faults in roof layers. another example would be the caulk (if it has any) finally gave and cracked allowing for water to sneak in through there. yet another simple fix could be the wind blew back a shingle,cracked it, allowing water to find it's way in through cracks.
today there's a 60% probability of rain, when it does, go in your attic and try to look for wet spots in ceiling or look for dried water marks.
you get the idea, could be something simple.
FWIW, my sisters house had a roof leak not to long ago. i said i could fix it but her insurance covered it so she opted for a brand new roof :| . for some reason i see that as throwing away money since it was a matter of replacing a few shingles and sheding .
BTW, if you where hit by hurricane Ike, it may have done some damage to your roof. houston has been getting hit pretty hard by heavy, gusty rain lately which may have broke the camels back on the damaged roof,IMO.
quote: ...if it ever "flood"s at my house then the world is under water.
houston is not called the bayou city for nothing. |
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  SandShark So it goes Premium,MVM join:2000-05-23 Santa Fe, TX clubs:
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| reply to workablob Rather than asking in an online forum what your insurance might cover, you're probably going to get better answers from your insurance company. Dealing with adjusters after Hurricane Ike, I can tell you they aren't going to give you anything unless you fight them for it. I'm still fighting with the windstorm people almost 8 months later. |
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| reply to workablob If the roof is just old and leaked, which caused water damage in the house, then the insurance company will fix the water damage. You will have to pay to fix the roof. Insurance will only fix a roof that has been damaged by wind, hail, etc. They won't pay for a new roof just because the roof has failed due to age, poor installation, etc.
Any water damage caused by rising water outside the home, will be covered ONLY if you have flood insurance. Standard home insurance policies do not contain flood insurance. It must be purchased separately. And yes, water pooling in front of the house qualifies as rising water and is only covered if you have flood insurance.  |
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  yock TFTC Premium join:2000-11-21 Fairfield, OH
| reply to workablob Falling water is not "flood" damage for insurance purposes. If you have damage or a defect in your roof that caused water to enter your home that way, it would likely be classified as "water" damage. Your policy will stipulate how each of these causes of loss are handled. Whether or not the roof is replaced will depend on your policy and the current state of the rest of the roof. You'll have to discuss such things with your insurer. |
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| reply to SandShark said by SandShark :Rather than asking in an online forum what your insurance might cover, you're probably going to get better answers from your insurance company. Because (supposedly, it hasn't happened to me) they could construe just asking them about a "hypothetical" as equivalent to making a claim, at least as far as rate increases to. |
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  SandShark So it goes Premium,MVM join:2000-05-23 Santa Fe, TX clubs: | There is no hypothetical. He's got water damage from a roof leak. He needs to call his insurance company to file a claim. If he doesn't want to go that route, he'll pay out of his pocket to repair the damage. It's pretty simple. |
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| reply to workablob This may help:
quote: FLOOD INSURANCE
As the name implies, a standard flood insurance policy, which is written by the National Flood Insurance Program, provides coverage up to the policy limit for damage caused by flood. The dictionary defines "flood" as a rising and overflowing of a body of water onto normally dry land. For insurance purposes, the word "rising" in this definition is the key to distinguishing flood damage from water damage. Generally, damage caused by water that has been on the ground at some point before damaging your home is considered to be flood damage. A handful of examples of flood damage include:
* A nearby river overflows its banks and washes into your home. * A heavy rain seeps into your basement because the soil can't absorb the water quickly enough * A heavy rain or flash flood causes the hill behind your house to collapse into a mud slide that oozes into your home.
Flood damage to your home can be insured only with a flood insurance policy -- no other insurance will cover flood damage. Flood insurance is available through your insurance agent, insurance company or local Federal Emergency Management Office (FEMA). To determine if your home is located in a flood plain, contact your county planning office. If you are living in a flood plain, flood insurance may be an excellent purchase.
HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE
A homeowners insurance policy doesn't provide coverage for flood damage, but it does provide coverage for many types of water damage to your home. Just the opposite from flood damage, for insurance purposes, water damage is considered to occur when water damages your home before the water comes in contact with the ground. A few examples of water damage include:
* A hailstorm smashes your window, permitting hail and rain free access into your home. * A heavy rain soaks through the roof, allowing water to drip through your attic or ceiling. * A broken water pipe spews water into your home.
Even if flood or water damage is not covered by your homeowners insurance policy, losses from theft, fire or explosion resulting from water damage is covered. For example, if a nearby creek overflows and floods your home, and looters steal some of your furnishings after you evacuate, the theft would be covered by your homeowners insurance because it is a direct result of the water damage. However, the flood damage would be covered only if you have flood insurance.
It's important to note that flood insurance and homeowners insurance do not duplicate coverage for water damage. Instead, they complement each other.
So in your case, it all depends where the water came from. Leaking roof= Homeowners, you're covered.
Rain water piling up against front of house and flooding in = likely Flood Insurance, and you would not be covered. -- "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
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| reply to garys_2k said by garys_2k :said by SandShark :Rather than asking in an online forum what your insurance might cover, you're probably going to get better answers from your insurance company. Because (supposedly, it hasn't happened to me) they could construe just asking them about a "hypothetical" as equivalent to making a claim, at least as far as rate increases to. Precisely! I was with state farm and got them to come out and check my roof after a storm and did not file a claim;or so I thought. When I switched over to Allstate, they said, "Oh, we see there was a claim filed with State Farm."
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1 edit | reply to workablob Re: Flooding in Texas - Insurance Question
If you can show water damage above the floor then you are halfway there, IE: water spots or damage to the beam or any drywall. You might still be in for a battle but it's a start.
We went through this with hurricane Ike. Farmers kept trying to claim our laminate was damaged by wind driven rain around windows and under a door, The fact that half of the roof directly over the damage was gone did not nothing to convince them. Once we were able to show bubbling paint and water marks on the wall from the ceiling down it was a different game. Since you don't have flood insurance you have to prove it all came from above otherwise a typical homeowners policy will not cover it.
You still have to watch out though, our adjuster did not understand why the whole floor had to come up to fix a section of it and then thought $375 was sufficient to remove, replace damaged pieces and reinstall 450 sq ft of laminate flooring. Not really a surprise though since he put his ladder directly on brand new aluminum gutters and proceeded to smash them. |
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