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 ptrowskiGot Helix?Premium
join:2005-03-14
Putnam, CT
kudos:4 | reply to Rick
Re: All that money... Over for uverse, possibly.
Over for FIOS? Hardly. | | |
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fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
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kudos:3 | said by ptrowski:Over for uverse, possibly. Over for FIOS? Hardly. Why do you say that? JUST becuase it's "Fiber" service doesn't make Verizon's FiOS service anything special.
It's not ALL about the connection. Verizon still has a horrible rap for pricing, billing, customer service, and that they play games with their customer's services and what they can do with it.
Just becuase FiOS seems to be fairly straight forward, that's for now.. don't think for once moment that as they migrate people over to a FiOS offering that they will move the game to FiOS from their traditional services. Prices are already going up with FiOS.. and, well, people just don't forget how they were treated in the past by ANY provider.
To this day, I give Qwest/US West as LITTLE of my business as I have to. I have stand alone DSL with them and that's it! I'd much rather tie two cans and string together than use their dial tone ever again.
Further, when it comes to Verizon, stop and think with out blinders on for a moment. They treat their classic services one way. FiOS is under a whole other set of rules and pricing/offerings. Its the same company.. why do you think FiOS is treated any different? ... becuase they want to sell it. They're not being good guys and treating FiOS any different to be nice.. they're doing it to make it attractive, right now. In 10 years, lets have this talk and see how wonderful Verizon treats FiOS people. | |
ptrowskiGot Helix?Premium
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| Comcast has the same rap for pricing, billing, etc. That usually comes with just about any large company. Some are better than others, but let's not try to say that comcast's CS is on a higher tier than VZ.
I am looking for a pure technology aspect. Uverse will not be able to compete with the OOL, Comcast, Verizon on a speed basis. It just won't and can't happen.
We have seen what Fios has done in competing markets and it is impressive. Look at the recent "victory" so to speak in the metered billing arena.
Is Fios the magic bullet to our need for speed? Hardly. But in scalabilty etc D3 will not in my opinion kill Fios. It just won't happen.
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fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3 | And I agree with what you said.
The thing that I'm still skeptical on is that we have all seen companies come out with one position which is popular at the time, and the flip sides down the road when opportunity served them well to do so.
I really don't think FiOS will remain un-metered for long after the rest of them do it, IF they do.
Verizon was also up there with trying to get "more money for using our pipes"... they don't have a pure innocent past. They also have the history of throttling and restricting the use on their wireless service.
I agree they are not at the moment, BUT, they have demonstrated that they are not incapable of doing the meter. Personally, I see that as a PR move on their part while it's convenient to do so. I trust no company on face value, not even comcast, not even cable.
But, I will 100% agree with you that Comcast has a LARGE way to go before I'd call their so-called "customer service" department.. "service".. With me, if the company I've been with and "loyal" to has treated me like crap, the other side will get a chance to keep my business. Once the other one treats me like crap, then I evaluate who treated me less crappily (If that's a word) and I stay with them.
Techies, for sure, will drool all over the fiber service> Many will go by price, value, and company reputation, I believe. At least for all the years I've had my hands on the products, and listening to people IN their homes and why they do things, both on the receiving and losing end, this is what I base my theory on. 15 years of that, and during the course of evolution of services, you tend to pick up on these things all the time. | |
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said by fiberguy:said by ptrowski:Over for uverse, possibly. Over for FIOS? Hardly. Why do you say that? JUST becuase it's "Fiber" service doesn't make Verizon's FiOS service anything special. It's not ALL about the connection. Verizon still has a horrible rap for pricing, billing, customer service, and that they play games with their customer's services and what they can do with it. Just becuase FiOS seems to be fairly straight forward, that's for now.. don't think for once moment that as they migrate people over to a FiOS offering that they will move the game to FiOS from their traditional services. Prices are already going up with FiOS.. and, well, people just don't forget how they were treated in the past by ANY provider. To this day, I give Qwest/US West as LITTLE of my business as I have to. I have stand alone DSL with them and that's it! I'd much rather tie two cans and string together than use their dial tone ever again. Further, when it comes to Verizon, stop and think with out blinders on for a moment. They treat their classic services one way. FiOS is under a whole other set of rules and pricing/offerings. Its the same company.. why do you think FiOS is treated any different? ... becuase they want to sell it. They're not being good guys and treating FiOS any different to be nice.. they're doing it to make it attractive, right now. In 10 years, lets have this talk and see how wonderful Verizon treats FiOS people. You have a good point. However, we have subpar service with bad pricing from Comcast now, let's worry about that instead of throwing mud on FiOS that at least tries to do something right for whatever (possible bad) ulterior motive.
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