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TamaraB
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Moral NANNIES?

What the hell gives any group the right to legislate morality for me? These Moral Nannies are nothig more than fascists!

Personally, I do NOT "gamble" on the Stock Market ... Hell! I am not a gambler! To force anyone to not-gamble on ANYTHING, is, IMHO, a violation of our rights as humans and as Americans. Who the hell are these people? What gives them the right to force their provincial "morality" on the general populace? NOTHING! No-one is forcing ANYONE to "gamble". However, if someone CHOOSES to do so, Who the hell is ANYONE allowed to authorized or to to deny them the right to do so? Is this a "FREE" ( and Democratic) country or not?

This sort of crap pisses me off! It's fascist thinking, and a real threat to our personal freedoms (the hallmark of a free society)!

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said by TamaraB:

What the hell gives any group the right to legislate morality for me?
I'm always amazed when these rural states come up with this stuff, I think it's because they're so isolated from civilization.


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Is this a "FREE" ( and Democratic) country or not?
Given the fact that more than 1 in 100 adults is incarcerated in this country, more than any other country in the world, I'm gonna have to go with "No."
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T1 Rocky

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...And what if the ISP's don't comply? And what is to stop the gamblers from using a satelite ISP? And what is the recourse if a compliant ISP has a gambler who finds a site not filtered by the ISP? And what is the ISP compensated for being a net nanny?



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said by bent See ProfileGiven the fact that more than 1 in 100 adults is incarcerated in this country, more than any other country in the world, I'm gonna have to go with "No."
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That's because all the BOO HOO's have made it so we don't Harm our children's ego's by teaching them right or wrong. Started in the 60s so now the Fruit of that act is bearing now.


footballdude
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said by Authority:

I'm always amazed when these rural states come up with this stuff, I think it's because they're so isolated from civilization.
Wow, typical California attitude there. If you don't live on the coast, you're just a rube on a dirt farm. I met a whole bunch of people in San Francisco with that attitude a few years ago. Couldn't wait to get away from them.
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said by footballdude:

Wow, typical California attitude there. If you don't live on the coast, you're just a rube on a dirt farm. I met a whole bunch of people in San Francisco with that attitude a few years ago. Couldn't wait to get away from them.
Well let's be honest, the best and brightest and most accomplished people in human society tend to group together in the major hubs for commerce and culture. Sorry if that's not politically correct, but it's a fact.


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said by W7PSK:

said by bent See ProfileGiven the fact that more than 1 in 100 adults is incarcerated in this country, more than any other country in the world, I'm gonna have to go with "No."


That's because all the BOO HOO's have made it so we don't Harm our children's ego's by teaching them right or wrong. Started in the 60s so now the Fruit of that act is bearing now.
If you equate Right and Wrong with Legal and Illegal I pity you.
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said by T1 Rocky:

...And what if the ISP's don't comply? And what is to stop the gamblers from using a satelite ISP? And what is the recourse if a compliant ISP has a gambler who finds a site not filtered by the ISP? And what is the ISP compensated for being a net nanny?
You forgot one: What's to stop them from VPNing to a proxy making any ISP level filtering moot?

In fact, there's probably a market in MN right now for VPN proxy servers. Be there first and make a mint!
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said by W7PSK:

said by bent See ProfileGiven the fact that more than 1 in 100 adults is incarcerated in this country, more than any other country in the world, I'm gonna have to go with "No."


That's because all the BOO HOO's have made it so we don't Harm our children's ego's by teaching them right or wrong. Started in the 60s so now the Fruit of that act is bearing now.
If you equate Right and Wrong with Legal and Illegal I pity you.
If you equate, theft, assault, murder, extortion etc etc to just Social misunderstanding I pity you.


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If you equate, theft, assault, murder, extortion etc etc to just Social misunderstanding I pity you.
If you think that the majority of people incarcerated are murderers, thieves, extortionists, etc. you need to read more. The majority of people in prison are there for non-violent drug offenses. If that's ok by you, wait 'til they make posessing long range radio transmitting equipment illegal in the name of national security. You'll be singing a different tune, I'm sure.
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dynodb
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What would someone from Beverly Hills know about "civilization"?

As far as legislating morality- which state was it that started with the draconian smoking laws?



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If you think the majority of People are in for none drug offenses you need to check the Department of Justice statistics before making such a claim

»www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/prisons.htm

Total 100%
Violent 53
Property 19
Drug 20
Public-order 8



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gomer1701ems

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"Come and listen to my story about a man named Jeb. Poor mountaineer, barely kept his family fed...."
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I sit corrected.

Now prove that your encrypted packet transmissions aren't feeding information to the terrists, comrade.

I'd also be curious as to just how much of that violent crime is a direct result of the illicit profits generated by drug prohibition?

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W7PSK
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Ive never told you I think Marijuana should be sold and taxed either did I



footballdude
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said by Authority:

the best and brightest and most accomplished people in human society tend to group together in the major hubs for commerce and culture. Sorry if that's not politically correct, but it's a fact.
More like the self important and ego centric. If all the best and brightest are in California, then why is California broke?
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said by W7PSK:

Ive never told you I think Marijuana should be sold and taxed either did I
No, and there's something we certainly agree on.

I guess I should have posed my original statement as a question. Do you equate Right and Wrong with Legal and Illegal?

Because something is legal, does that make it right? Conversely, if something is illegal, does that make it wrong? We can come up with any number of cases on both sides that give lie to those statements. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a proponent of anarchy, but putting one in every 100 people behind bars seems excessive to me.

How many of those people become products of the system who then have an even more difficult time in society? I don't know if you know any ex-cons, but prison changes them, changes them psychologically in ways that makes it hard for them to work productively in society.

How many of those people would be much better served with education, counseling, and therapy? Housing an inmate costs a minimum of $15k a year, most states pay much more. That money could go to teaching them how to support themselves and be functioning members of society.

I guess if that point of view makes me a boo hoo bleeding heart, then so be it.
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said by dynodb:

What would someone from Beverly Hills know about "civilization"?

As far as legislating morality- which state was it that started with the draconian smoking laws?
The one where people care about their health and appearance? Just a guess...


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said by footballdude:

said by Authority:

the best and brightest and most accomplished people in human society tend to group together in the major hubs for commerce and culture. Sorry if that's not politically correct, but it's a fact.
More like the self important and ego centric. If all the best and brightest are in California, then why is California broke?
Too close to Mexico.

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