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sporkme
drop the crantini and move it, sister
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-01
Morristown, NJ
reply to RadioDoc

Re: New posting requirement for anonymous posters

said by RadioDoc:

Sadly, this site is already exclusionary and mean in many forums. Some are downright hostile to any new participants. Nothing is done about it and fatness' nice corporate missive is almost completely at odds with the reality. Restricting unregistered posting won't help that except to maybe keeping the few who complain about it from complaining.
Keep in mind anons generate ad revenue, registered users do not.

tcope
Premium
join:2003-05-07
Sandy, UT
kudos:2
reply to Dennis

Yeah, I have to agree that this "rule" makes no sense. If an anon poster is not clear then people can either choose to stop reading the post and move on or ask for more information if they wish to help.

To say that a picture is required from anon posters does not even address any problem that _might_ exist... and I don't think one does exist. The correct response would be to require a person to register... which is not a board rule at this time.

I read this forum for two reasons... to obtain knowledge and to help with knowledge. As such, an anon's post with limited information does not really adversely affect me in anyway.

(It's not like this forums see 100's of new threads every day)



StNickless

@tmodns.net
reply to exocet_cm

said by exocet_cm:

You spelled Saint Nicholas wrong...
Anons are always off topic too....right ?


RadioDoc
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join:2000-05-11
La Grange, IL
kudos:2
reply to james1

said by james1:

Also, some sage advice from a wize man.

said by fatness:

If your new suggestion involves restricting anonymous posting in some way, it's probably going to get locked or deleted.

Years ago people felt they belonged to a community here on the site and they welcomed newcomers. That's what drew me in and probably what drew you in, too --- unfailing friendliness, help, and welcome, offered freely by more people than you could shake a stick at.

But the world around us has changed, not all the changes are good, and the current "let's keep them out" attitude around us has affected the site. Adversely.

Today some people want to build walls around the site and want to keep others out. The easy target is anonymous posters, and we've seen thread after hostile thread suggesting ways to keep them off the site, or restrict their use of the site. This hostility is quite visible to new people, reading or posting here for the first time. It makes the site look exclusionary and mean.

Trying to turn away good information, good opinion, and good people is a terrible idea. That was never what this site is about, and it isn't now. New readers are wanted and welcomed here as always, and if they don't feel like going through the problem of setting up an account at first (or at all) their contributions are just as welcome as if they're longtime members. Anonymous posters have been and are a source of a tremendous amount of contributions to the community. Many members read and posted anonymously for awhile, and finally joined because they felt welcomed and they wanted to pitch in and help.

This is a living, online community that we're inviting people into. It's not a fortress we're trying to protect. We need more welcomes, less barbed wire.
Source: »[request] anonymous posting suggestions
Sadly, this site is already exclusionary and mean in many forums. Some are downright hostile to any new participants. Nothing is done about it and fatness' nice corporate missive is almost completely at odds with the reality. Restricting unregistered posting won't help that except to maybe keeping the few who complain about it from complaining. Very few people identify themselves on a forum with real life information so essentially almost everyone is an "anonymous poster".


exocet_cm
Free at last, free at last
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New Orleans, LA
kudos:3
reply to StNickless

You spelled Saint Nicholas wrong...



StNickless

@tmodns.net
reply to Dennis

Yet again a mindless solution to a nonexistant problem.

Registering will give you instant credibility....shyea, right...mmmk.

All anons are newbs....yep...ok...if you insist. This is where I should break out my milnet creds, but you just aren't proving it worthy of my time.

Show me a picture that proves your hot water heater isn't working, please....*waits*

Show me a picture that proves my 2 electrical outlets in the garage have no power.....*waits*

Get F'n real man.



Steve
I know your IP address
Consultant
join:2001-03-10
Yorba Linda, CA
kudos:5
reply to Dennis

*object*

Most people - including registered users - who post here are anonymous.

Could you actually mean "unregistered" ?



tahoejeff
Premium
join:2001-07-01
Wisconsin Dells, WI
reply to Dennis

that quote from 'fatness' really does say a lot about this site.
If the anon 'troll' posts to this forum are so numerous that they overburden the mods...bring on another mod.
I'm sorry that I'm commenting without actually knowing how often this happens. Maybe it's such a prevalent problem that this is a good idea.
I'd lean towards voting NO.
--
The Geek Shall Inherit the Earth



james1

join:2001-02-26

1 recommendation

reply to Dennis

Also, some sage advice from a wize man.

said by fatness:

If your new suggestion involves restricting anonymous posting in some way, it's probably going to get locked or deleted.

Years ago people felt they belonged to a community here on the site and they welcomed newcomers. That's what drew me in and probably what drew you in, too --- unfailing friendliness, help, and welcome, offered freely by more people than you could shake a stick at.

But the world around us has changed, not all the changes are good, and the current "let's keep them out" attitude around us has affected the site. Adversely.

Today some people want to build walls around the site and want to keep others out. The easy target is anonymous posters, and we've seen thread after hostile thread suggesting ways to keep them off the site, or restrict their use of the site. This hostility is quite visible to new people, reading or posting here for the first time. It makes the site look exclusionary and mean.

Trying to turn away good information, good opinion, and good people is a terrible idea. That was never what this site is about, and it isn't now. New readers are wanted and welcomed here as always, and if they don't feel like going through the problem of setting up an account at first (or at all) their contributions are just as welcome as if they're longtime members. Anonymous posters have been and are a source of a tremendous amount of contributions to the community. Many members read and posted anonymously for awhile, and finally joined because they felt welcomed and they wanted to pitch in and help.

This is a living, online community that we're inviting people into. It's not a fortress we're trying to protect. We need more welcomes, less barbed wire.
Source: »[request] anonymous posting suggestions


james1

join:2001-02-26

1 recommendation

reply to Dennis

said by Dennis:

Do you honestly think I:
1. Have enough time to read every single post on this site?
2. Am qualified enough to pass judgement on every scenario?
And that is exactly why I'm saying your rule isn't going to help you. Now if you're going to enforce your rule, you're going to have to delete any posts by anon users that dont include pictures, and they'll come back asking why their post was deleted, you'll tell them why and lock it, they'll make a post that they dont have a camera etc.

It's not easy being a moderator, I appreciate that, but you must realise this new rule of yours isn't going to make it any easier.


Dennis
Premium,Mod
join:2001-01-26
Algonquin, IL
kudos:5
reply to james1

said by james1:

How about you actually address the problem and make a rule that any posts without enough information about the problem will be deleted.
Do you honestly think I:
1. Have enough time to read every single post on this site?
2. Am qualified enough to pass judgement on every scenario?

If you answer yes to either of those then I have to say that you think waaaaay to much of me.
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Visit the Judd Family website to see my kids!


james1

join:2001-02-26
reply to Koil

said by Koil:

I asked what you find wrong with it
It's a stupid idea.
So what happens if a registered user makes a stupid post that doesnt describe his problem?
What happens when an anonymous user with no camera perfectly describes the problem?

How about you actually address the problem and make a rule that any posts without enough information about the problem will be deleted.

You know... rather than making a rule that will just "bite the newbies".


Koil
Premium
join:2002-09-10
Irmo, SC
kudos:2
reply to Dennis

Uh oh....made the ticker.

Queue the flood of anon replies....3...2...



Pacrat
Old and Cranky
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Cortland, OH
kudos:2
Reviews:
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reply to 81399672

Nah... it's the forum host's call. Justin wont get involved with forum rules.

Now, if a person says they don't have a digital camera, or cannot scan a photograph, that's one thing. But questions like, "Did I do this right?" or "What do think of... " Without an image, it's almost a complete waste of time. And, no, not every problem merits posting a photo of said condition. But the unusual and unique ones really help themselves if there's an image attached.
--
I was born at night... but not last night!



Caddyroger
Premium
join:2001-06-11
To the west
reply to Dennis

*sign*
--
Caddy



Koil
Premium
join:2002-09-10
Irmo, SC
kudos:2

1 recommendation

reply to 81399672

said by 81399672:

One of the best thing about this board is that you can post annoymousely. It's up to justin to decide if that should change or not after all this is his board.
Really? Of all the things, THAT is the best thing on this board? I'm not going to ask, as I am sure the answer will just make my eyes bleed, but no, it isn't the best thing on this board. All I can really see it as is a way for people to troll, create dumb ass topics, or hide behind anonymity because they lack the intestinal fortitude to stand behind the things they say.

THE ONLY time I could see anonymity being required/useful, would be if someone were in a particular situation in life and were embarrassed or worried about having their regular ID compromised. That is it, AND I don't think that those situations would ever arise in the Home Improvement forum.

Strongly *Signed*


81399672
Premium
join:2006-05-17
Los Angeles, CA
kudos:2
reply to natedj

said by natedj:

said by 81399672:

said by Koil:

I asked what you find wrong with it
For some stuff you just can't take picture. Not every problem needs a picture.
Well the obvious work-around to the problem is to sign in and become a member.
One of the best thing about this board is that you can post annoymousely. It's up to justin to decide if that should change or not after all this is his board.


natedj
Elected
Premium
join:2001-06-06
Columbia, SC

1 recommendation

reply to 81399672

said by 81399672:

said by Koil:

I asked what you find wrong with it
For some stuff you just can't take picture. Not every problem needs a picture.
Well the obvious work-around to the problem is to sign in and become a member.
--
Good judgement comes with experience...Experience comes after bad judgements


81399672
Premium
join:2006-05-17
Los Angeles, CA
kudos:2
reply to Koil

said by Koil:

I asked what you find wrong with it
For some stuff you just can't take picture. Not every problem needs a picture.

patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1
reply to Dennis

But the legendary trolling of DSLR Home Repair & Improvement is what makes this board special.

Here are some of my favs
»Is shutting oil burner on & off harmful?
»Riding Mower Accident...
»smoke detectors with a timer



Koil
Premium
join:2002-09-10
Irmo, SC
kudos:2

1 edit

2 recommendations

reply to AnonAndLovingIt

Sorry. I'll need a picture to reply to your comment.

/sarcasm: I think its perfectly justifiable. If you want to have access to the knowledge here, I think posting a pic is a very light and well reasoned request. If it were my board, I'd tell you to pound sand and register.



AnonAndLovingIt

@charter.com

-1 recommendation

reply to Koil

It's not practical. For a variety of reasons that are so obvious to me that I won't name them.



Koil
Premium
join:2002-09-10
Irmo, SC
kudos:2
reply to 81399672

I asked what you find wrong with it



81399672
Premium
join:2006-05-17
Los Angeles, CA
kudos:2
reply to Koil

said by Koil:

Since this isn't the new requests forum, what could you possibly find wrong with this?
As memeber of this forum, i have a right to object to a new rule.


Koil
Premium
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Irmo, SC
kudos:2
reply to 81399672

Since this isn't the new requests forum, what could you possibly find wrong with this?


robbin
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join:2000-09-21
Leander, TX
kudos:1
reply to 81399672

said by 81399672:

Strongly *object*
Strongly *sign* -- Thanks Dennis


81399672
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reply to Dennis

Strongly *object*



cacroll
Eventually, Prozac becomes normal
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Martinez, CA
reply to Dennis

said by Dennis:

From now on, if you want to post anonymously, you will need to attach a picture of the problem you are asking for help with.


Kudos, D.

Actually, not a bad idea for everybody, anon or registered. As cheap as pictures are, why not use them?
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Koil
Premium
join:2002-09-10
Irmo, SC
kudos:2
reply to Dennis

+1



BillRoland
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Ocala, FL
kudos:3

1 edit
reply to Dennis

Good change Dennis See Profile