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<description><![CDATA[Comcaster912 posted : Well, this year NFL woke up after the threat of removing NFL Network because Comcast wouldnt pay the DRAMATICALLY INCREASED AND OVERPRICED fee for NFL NETWORK, when Comcast didnt budge.<br><br>The good thing is that now Comcast will keep NFL, and in SEPT, anyone who has above Digital Starter cable (Digital Classic/preffered) will recieve NFL NETWORK, ESPNU and ESPN360 online. <br><br>Also, per the other networks, NBA TV, NHL NETWORK.<br><br>Wooya! September '09]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : who screws a giant dish into their house anyway, isnt that what people did in the 70s? im assuming none of you (pro-dish people)are homeowners.  Its ugly, it doesnt work, they pretend to have HD by enhancing the colors and hoping you dont have a nice enough TV to notice that its not real HD.  and if a west coast feed and east coast feed of TBS count as separate channels, you could feasibly say you have 209,000 HD channels.  Obviously most of their HD content is real, but if it's not FILMED in HD, then it is not HD i dont care what aspect ratio your TV can change it to with fat distorted "hd" characters.  Also, try renting a UFC fight for 60 dollars and then it starts snowing and you find yourself on your comcast internet (which works) trying to find some sort of live feed. Ridiculous, the argument for dish is negligible.  Further, comcast and fios have it figured out with 10,000+ on demand titles, that pretty much IS using the internet for VOD.  the future is in access to content at your fingertips, not trying to record it on your suck dish DVR and watch it later.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[sharksfan3 posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1527372" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1527372');">sturmvogel</a>:</small><br><br>Because the combination actually works. Which one would you have: spend less money for garbage that does not work or spend a bit more and have good service ? </div>Sorry to burst your bubble. I save about $50 a month getting all there services through my cable company. Best of all? The service is FANTASTIC. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[dvd536 posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/381367" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=381367');">damonlab</a>:</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1171845" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1171845');">caco</a>:</small><br><br>"freeing up bandwidth for DOCSIS 3.0"<br> </div>What does Docsis 3 matter when they don't take full advantage of Docsis 1?<br><br>Docsis 1 is capable of 38 Mbit/s down and 9 Mbit/s up.<br> </div>after overhead its closer to 29mbps down and 4.6mbps up/node.<br><small>--<br>When I gez aju zavateh na nalechoo more new yonooz tonigh molinigh - Ken Lee</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[floyd007 posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/731512" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=731512');">jjeffeory</a>:</small><br><br>SAT doesn't go out when is rains or snows hard. I was in hurricane Katrina and the satellite tv lasted a lot longer than the cable tv. It only went down when the wind blew down the dish. <br> </div>Rubbish.  You do not understand the concepts of electrical-magnetic radiation or  wave lengths.<br><br>Lightning and Thunder generates a magnetic field that interferes with the radio waves which also generates a magnetic field to propel itself as motion - this is a basic property of the motion of photons or light propulsion.   (Regardless of frequency) that the satellite are transmitting to your "Node" (receiver).  You will see latency as well as interference when that happens.  If you say no then you are a liar.<br><br>Clouds and other atmospheric properties will hinder the integrity and speed of the radio waves as well.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Ebolla posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/731512" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=731512');">jjeffeory</a>:</small><br><br>SAT doesn't go out when is rains or snows hard. I was in hurricane Katrina and the satellite tv lasted a lot longer than the cable tv. It only went down when the wind blew down the dish. <br> </div>Cable only goes out in a storm if a line comes down. This is no differant then if a dish comes down during a storm. Surprise surprise BOTH issues are not the fault of the providers.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : 50%.  And the margins are WAY less than they are for data and phone.  But you're right...it'll be a cold day in you know where before they kill the video golden goose.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[jjeffeory posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/462602" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=462602');">MTBikerChris</a>:</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/731512" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=731512');">jjeffeory</a>:</small><br><br>SAT doesn't go out when is rains or snows hard. I was in hurricane Katrina and the satellite tv lasted a lot longer than the cable tv. It only went down when the wind blew down the dish. <br> </div>Hmmm Yes it does and i know this is Fact..We lost it when we had Tropical Storm Allison in Houston and also with the Heavy Snow wet snow we had 2 weeks ago here in Denver.<br> </div>I should have said SAT doesn't ALWAYS go out under those circumstances. Maybe your dish isn't pointed correctly or peaked appropriately? Of course, the big dishes that the cable companies use can go out under these certain circumstances as well. You're right, I shouldn't use sweeping generalizations. I'd be sure and check that your dish is properly installed though.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[MTBikerChris posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/731512" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=731512');">jjeffeory</a>:</small><br><br>SAT doesn't go out when is rains or snows hard. I was in hurricane Katrina and the satellite tv lasted a lot longer than the cable tv. It only went down when the wind blew down the dish. <br> </div>Hmmm Yes it does and i know this is Fact..We lost it when we had Tropical Storm Allison in Houston and also with the Heavy Snow wet snow we had 2 weeks ago here in Denver.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[espaeth posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/381367" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=381367');">damonlab</a>:</small><br><br>What does Docsis 3 matter when they don't take full advantage of Docsis 1?<br><br>Docsis 1 is capable of 38 Mbit/s down and 9 Mbit/s up.</div>.. per shared segment.  <br><br>6 mbps out of 38mbps shared is quite a bit different from 12mbps they are allocated into 152mbps shared with DOCSIS 3.0 4-channel bonding.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[espaeth posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/462602" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=462602');">MTBikerChris</a>:</small><br><br>SAT Blows when it rains or snows hard it will go out</div>Only if your installer used 1) a dish too small for your region or 2) were too lazy to peak the dish appropriately.<br><br>Signal fade should be very rare on DBS installations.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[iansltx posted : With PowerBoost I get about 2.7 Mbps up here on DOCSIS 1.1. Downloads are always above 16 Mbps so they could...guess what...create a 16/2 tier...oh wait they've already done that in some markets. It's called Blast. Also the higher-end non-D3 biz tier is 16/2.<br><br>Try putting more than about 16/2 on a DOCSIS 1.1 line and you're asking for trouble.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[JPL posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1527372" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1527372');">sturmvogel</a>:</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/954179" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=954179');">sharksfan3</a>:</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1590874" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1590874');">DarkLogix</a>:</small><br><br>I get your point I just wish people would see the light and get Sat TV, cable internet, and pots phone<br><br>I know it won't happen though<br> </div>Please explain how having a combination of sat tv, cable internet, and a pots phone is seeing the light? Sounds like you are wasting money.<br> </div>Because the combination actually works. Which one would you have: spend less money for garbage that does not work or spend a bit more and have good service ?<br><br>1. Cable Internet. Fastest speed, works well after 10+ service calls and avoiding the "generous" caps. (no DSL available)<br><br>2. Sat TV. Cheaper, better quality HDTV, no weirdness with digital tuners not working for various reasons (operator forgot to enter ID/subscription whatever into system, constantly needs to reauthorize at weird times and cannot due to poor cable, operator changes for no reason, etc) annoyances.<br><br>3. POTS. Works, not dependent on weird similar operator issues as #2, true emergency dialing, no fade outs / drops whatever.<br><br>If I could get DSL, I would drop CC's HSI/TV in a second. Never used their phone and am considering dropping TV and subscribing to satellite soon, even if it was TWICE as expensive, just since am so tired of CC. <br> </div>Sounds like you have a specific beef with ONE provider in one specific market.  To claim that that paradigm is bad across the board is silly.  I have FiOS for everything.  My internet is awesome - 20/5 service, with no caps, no throttling, and no slow periods.  Their TV service has the best PQ I've seen, with 109 (and counting) HD channels available in my market, and their phone service is still traditional POTS (even though it's now delivered over fiber instead of copper).<br><br>As for DBS being cheaper - not for me it isn't.  Even if I didn't bundle, I'd be saving money over an equivalent setup with DirecTV - I know, because I came from DirecTV.<br><br>In terms of Comcast - what makes them profitable is the fact that they're able to bundle.  Those triple-plays are extremely popular.  Think there's a reason that DirecTV, e.g., is considering starting up a wireless phone service?  Can't imagine why they'd want to do that... unless so they can also jump on that bandwagon of being able to provide bundled services.<br><br>If Comcast made the jump just to HSI, they would lose money - they couldn't sustain their current business with just HSI - I don't care how fast their service would be.  And because they'd only provide one service, they'd lose the ability to attract people in by offering bundled services - you know, one of the enticements that they've used to grow their business so successfully.  Which means that their HSI would be more expensive.  Which means that they would likely LOSE customers to those services that did provide bundling.  At the end of the day it would be, like I said, totally suicidal for Comcast to do that.  They're successful because their business model is working.  By all means, let's totally mess with that model, to make it so they're not profitable.  That'll work!]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[MTBikerChris posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1590874" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1590874');">DarkLogix</a>:</small><br><br>I get your point I just wish people would see the light and get Sat TV, cable internet, and pots phone<br><br>I know it won't happen though<br> </div>I think someone is smoking some thing.. Who wants a Pots line anyway? I have a cell and CCDV also SAT Blows when it rains or snows hard it will go out,But if you want he NFL package then sign up,No thanks i will wait for cable get it and that is in due time when the NFL wakes up..]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[damonlab posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1171845" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1171845');">caco</a>:</small><br><br>"freeing up bandwidth for DOCSIS 3.0"<br> </div>What does Docsis 3 matter when they don't take full advantage of Docsis 1?<br><br>Docsis 1 is capable of 38 Mbit/s down and 9 Mbit/s up.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[sturmvogel posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/954179" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=954179');">sharksfan3</a>:</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1590874" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1590874');">DarkLogix</a>:</small><br><br>I get your point I just wish people would see the light and get Sat TV, cable internet, and pots phone<br><br>I know it won't happen though<br> </div>Please explain how having a combination of sat tv, cable internet, and a pots phone is seeing the light? Sounds like you are wasting money.<br> </div>Because the combination actually works. Which one would you have: spend less money for garbage that does not work or spend a bit more and have good service ?<br><br>1. Cable Internet. Fastest speed, works well after 10+ service calls and avoiding the "generous" caps. (no DSL available)<br><br>2. Sat TV. Cheaper, better quality HDTV, no weirdness with digital tuners not working for various reasons (operator forgot to enter ID/subscription whatever into system, constantly needs to reauthorize at weird times and cannot due to poor cable, operator changes for no reason, etc) annoyances.<br><br>3. POTS. Works, not dependent on weird similar operator issues as #2, true emergency dialing, no fade outs / drops whatever.<br><br>If I could get DSL, I would drop CC's HSI/TV in a second. Never used their phone and am considering dropping TV and subscribing to satellite soon, even if it was TWICE as expensive, just since am so tired of CC. <br><small>--<br>Obama '08. Will help resolve the terrible broadband issues we have that put us so far behind other countries.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[sharksfan3 posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1590874" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1590874');">DarkLogix</a>:</small><br><br>I get your point I just wish people would see the light and get Sat TV, cable internet, and pots phone<br><br>I know it won't happen though<br> </div>Please explain how having a combination of sat tv, cable internet, and a pots phone is seeing the light? Sounds like you are wasting money.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[JPL posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1590874" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1590874');">DarkLogix</a>:</small><br><br>I get your point I just wish people would see the light and get Sat TV, cable internet, and pots phone<br><br>I know it won't happen though<br> </div>See the light?  What Comcast's numbers (as well as Verizon's and AT&T's) tell me is that bundling is very popular.  No, it's not for everyone, but if you can save a few bucks per month by bundling your services, that's not a bad thing - and it would be suicidal for a service like Comcast to just become an ISP.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[ThrowDemsOut posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1590874" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1590874');">DarkLogix</a>:</small><br><br>Ya I just don't care about their TV service<br> </div>But they have over 24 million customers that do. Who do you think they will care about? You or them?<br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/bqv2h"><b>My BLOG ..</b></a><A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/2a9xcb"><i> .. Internet News ..</i></a><A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/yz8xto"><b> .. My Web Page</b></a></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[ThrowDemsOut posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1590874" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1590874');">DarkLogix</a>:</small><br><br>Ya I guess you don't get my point<br>drop all channels and use the whole range for internet<br>the TV service isn't very good anyway<br><br>I get my VOD from the internet<br>I watch Directv for TV<br>I have no need for their TV service at all just for the coax that happens to be used for it<br><b><br>so upgrade the plant to 1GHz and use it all for internet</b><br> </div>Yeah, that will happen.  :huh:<br><br>They get 75% of their revenue from TV related products. The rest comes from voice & the internet.<br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/bqv2h"><b>My BLOG ..</b></a><A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/2a9xcb"><i> .. Internet News ..</i></a><A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/yz8xto"><b> .. My Web Page</b></a></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[DarkLogix posted : Ya I guess you don't get my point<br>drop all channels and use the whole range for internet<br>the TV service isn't very good anyway<br><br>I get my VOD from the internet<br>I watch Directv for TV<br>I have no need for their TV service at all just for the coax that happens to be used for it<br><br>so upgrade the plant to 1GHz and use it all for internet]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[cornelius785 posted : in the case of CATV, they are intertwined.  if you read the article....  you'd see that readjusting the cable channels free up bandwidth (Hz not bps), which enables them to offer more services which INCLUDES DOCSIS 3.0.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 10:28:12 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[caco posted : Jesus Christ! RTFA<br><br>"freeing up bandwidth for DOCSIS 3.0"]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 10:24:21 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[DarkLogix posted : now if they could focus on internet and not on TV]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 10:09:14 EDT</pubDate>
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