EvilByDesire
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join:2002-09-03
Grotto | reply to FreshDaemon
Re: [Newsgroups] Usenet speed consistently down by 20%
possible ISP throttle? |
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FreshDaemon
join:2007-09-25
St Catharines, ON | It's SSL encrypted, so it shouldn't be.
The throttled speed for Bittorrent on my ISP is 50KBps down, though, so 490 seems a little high. I also assume that if it were ISP throttling, then running two newsreaders shouldn't produce full speed. |
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EvilByDesire
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Grotto
 ·Atlantic Broadband
1 edit | said by FreshDaemon  :It's SSL encrypted, so it shouldn't be. The throttled speed for Bittorrent on my ISP is 50KBps down, though, so 490 seems a little high. I also assume that if it were ISP throttling, then running two newsreaders shouldn't produce full speed. your isp can drop your speed anytime they want, read your agreement, if they feel you are useing to much bandwidth they can slow you down.. SSL or no SSL the isp can throttle you..and plus it only happens at "peak" times so thats another vote for your isp doing something.. |
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FreshDaemon
join:2007-09-25
St Catharines, ON
 ·TekSavvy Solutions..
1 edit | But wouldn't they just slow down my entire connection - which would mean that I couldn't aggregate two newsreaders together to get around the throttle?
Also, I happen to have a good ISP that doesn't believe in throttling or capping. If you don't believe me I'm sure I could PM one of their reps to post in this thread. 
Edit: for clarity, I'm not being throttled. I still have full speed for Usenet. I just have to run two newsreaders to get it. |
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EvilByDesire
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Grotto | mabey you need to use more or less connections, if it says 20 connections dont use all 20, only use half. |
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FreshDaemon
join:2007-09-25
St Catharines, ON | I already tried that. See original post. 1 thread alone is enough to max out 490KBps, I've tried any number of threads from 1 to the full 20. Right now I'm splitting 12 threads between two newsreaders to get full speed. |
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NewsgroupRev
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join:2008-06-25
| If you are using port 563 for secure connection to NGD try changing to port 443. NGD supports the alternate port and this will help determine if it's a throttling issue.
- NGR
Newsgroup Reviews |
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FreshDaemon
join:2007-09-25
St Catharines, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
1 edit | [23:13:54] Level: ERROR MODULE=InterSocket, MSG=Error: Connection Failed, Host: news-ssl.newsgroupdirect.com Error Code: 10061:1034
Doesn't seem to like that port.
Additionally, the speed has started swinging around wildly for the last hour or two (after an initial few minutes at full speed) and running much slower than it should - even with both newsreaders. Image attached. Speedtest.net still shows a full 5.16Mbps down and 0.65Mbps up.
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swintec
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Alfred, ME | Instead of port 563 with SSL, try either port 80, or port 81. 443 is no longer supported.
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FreshDaemon
join:2007-09-25
St Catharines, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| Didn't help. Additionally, with just one newsreader I'm now only able to get 93KBps. With two it just swings about as I described before.
My ISP is pretty good but the company that owns the actual lines is Bell Canada, who are busy breaking the law and screwing customers right now. I'm increasingly suspicious that they're at the bottom of this. |
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FreshDaemon
join:2007-09-25
St Catharines, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| Update: I think NewsgroupDirect is to blame for this.
I got a free trial with NNTPJunkie to test another provider, I couldn't connect to their SSL for some reason, but on the non-SSL connection I was able to maintain full speed for about 25 minutes, and downloaded 700MB. I only stopped at that point because the free trial is only 1GB, and I wanted to leave some to test the SSL service (assuming I can get through). No problems, though.
I went back to NewsgroupDirect, just to check it wasn't the time of day or anything and sure enough, after 250MB of downloading (which takes 5-10 minutes) it started doing the exact same thing again. However, although the average speed in that initial time is faster, it's a lot more peaky than NNTPJunkie's.
I'll send NGD a message and ask them what they're playing at. If they can't fix it or they don't answer, I'll just cancel my subscription with them and go with someone else. |
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