mbkowns
Got Bandwidth?
join:2003-07-01
Riverside, CA
| Where's 60 MB? I heard all this movement on 60 MB but wheres an update to it? When will Socal get it? Are they at least out of ST Louis yet? Is it in other areas?
Needs a new thread and some updates.
THANKS!
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Varlik
Without Honor You Will Never Be Free
Premium
join:2002-01-06
Anderson, SC | Re: Where's 60 MB? Charters restructuring having hit opposition has probably slowed if not stopped this. I might be mistaken but wasn't this only intended for select markets to begin with? | |
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AMDUSER
Premium
join:2003-05-28
Earth
clubs:
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| Re: Where's 60 MB? said by Varlik  :Charters restructuring having hit opposition has probably slowed if not stopped this. .." That would not be surprising actually.
With all the issues Charter is having in bankruptcy court (with opposition, and some creditors [the WI workers who sued] among others it would not be surprising if it was converted to Chapter 7.
I do agree with with JPMorgan and the other bank about the change of control, considering Apollo will essentially control more of Charter than Paul Allan.
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join:2007-09-30
Cleveland, TN
·Charter Pipeline
| Re: Where's 60 MB? said by AMDUSER :said by Varlik :Charters restructuring having hit opposition has probably slowed if not stopped this. .." That would not be surprising actually. With all the issues Charter is having in bankruptcy court (with opposition, and some creditors [the WI workers who sued] among others it would not be surprising if it was converted to Chapter 7. I do agree with with JPMorgan and the other bank about the change of control, considering Apollo will essentially control more of Charter than Paul Allan. i also agree i think more then 50 percent chance charter goes chapter 7
based on what all ive read and documents ive seen if i was a judge id turn it into chapter 7 | |
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| mbkowns
Got Bandwidth?
join:2003-07-01
Riverside, CA | Re: Where's 60 MB? I know about this thread but its a super cluster truck...
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| | BoMarty
join:2001-02-01
Ballwin, MO | Re: Where's 60 MB? Like I said, limited town's in St Louis. Maybe about 4 cities at the moment have 60meg.
Chesterfield. MO
Ballwin, MO
Eureka. MO
Ellisville. MO
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kruser
Premium
join:2002-06-01
Saint Louis, MO
clubs:
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| Re: Where's 60 MB? said by BoMarty :Like I said, limited town's in St Louis. Maybe about 4 cities at the moment have 60meg. Chesterfield. MO Ballwin, MO Eureka. MO Ellisville. MO And that is it that I know of. Yep, that is true and also not all areas of the cities you list have the 60 MB plan available. I'm in the eastern part of Chesterfield and it is not available here. | |
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zed260
join:2007-09-30
Cleveland, TN | i think charter plans to roll it out nationwide eventuly but mostly in fios areas at first | |
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yeahian
join:2004-12-03
Venice, CA | ur lucky u even have 20mb service in the pasadena area stuck with 10 and no fios | |
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zed260
join:2007-09-30
Cleveland, TN | id not count on 60 meg till 2010 | |
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| yeahian
join:2004-12-03
Venice, CA | Re: Where's 60 MB? I'd say more like 2014 | |
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Kornflake
join:2006-12-21
Sheboygan, WI | i was told they have it in select markets in cali | |
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acidrain97
join:2008-07-09
Reno, NV | Well they have to get the 20mb stable first. I know here in Reno Charter sucks... | |
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| Ox3g3n
join:2003-06-29
Iron Mountain, MI | Re: Where's 60 MB? *drools*. I want 60mbps service  . My 20meg service has been solid since my signal issue was fixed. | |
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| audiolocator
join:2001-11-30
Saint Peters, MO
| That's the same email most of us got last week, but unfortunately, it doesn't seem to have been added to any additional areas. | |
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sudogreg
join:2002-01-12
Washington, MO | i like the fine print...
... Services not available in all areas.
wish i could get it too. this is going to be a big seller for charter once it starts rolling out. | |
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| yeahian
join:2004-12-03
Venice, CA | Re: Where's 60 MB? obviously its getting closer a day has past. That flyer is pretty Charter anounce something with no specofocs.... | |
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| | Theta
join:2003-07-24
O Fallon, MO
| Re: Where's 60 MB? said by yeahian :obviously its getting closer a day has past. That flyer is pretty Charter anounce something with no specofocs.... Typing while intoxicated for the win.  | |
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| | | Metatron2008
join:2008-09-02
Stockbridge, GA | Re: Where's 60 MB? Chapter 11 had hit a few stalls, but last I heard it was okay'd by a judge to proceed.
I think by the end of the year, we'll have 60 mBIT internet. | |
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join:2004-12-03
Venice, CA | actually typing on a quirk laptop and not proofreading but heah it was 10pm! | |
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| | yeahian
join:2004-12-03
Venice, CA | meant to say pretty funny and with no specifics of course. By the time they roll it out it will be nothing special. Too bad though. | |
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PiP
join:2009-05-12
Pasadena, CA
| I heard a "rumor" that Charter has been developing a new software that monitors all Charter connections in real time 24/7 in order to better calculate the on and off times of all customers. Why? This new software will be able to redirect scattered 'off-time' residential bandwidth and funnel it (very close to real time) directly to small, selected areas of the country thereby "boosting" these areas up to, or very near 60Mbits(this is only early test runs)...while at the same time putting it back so as not to interrupt the lower paying customers. But as we all are seeing now, it's not running too smoothly. All the timeouts. The wild speed fluctuations(usually at certain times daily). And here is a big bomb for you all. everyone CAN get 60mb right now. The lines are all set. Don't believe me? Good for you. Call them and ask them to provision your modem to 60mb just for a minute so you can run a speed test for a hardware issue you are having(But be more imaginative than me)lol
The system is still learning and monitoring and making faster and faster decisions.
Supposedly the new model of the future will not contain unlimited bandwidth for all. So the ISP's new job is not going to be consumer driven, It will be a government branch that is responsible for the real-time distribution of the only pool of bandwidth that can exist. Sending it to ppl who need access to the net and monitors EVERYTHING you do because you are using bandwidth that (in the near future) becomes as accurately priced and packaged as any tangible item today... namely gasoline. Then the moment you log off the ISP's won't spill a drop of the precious bandwidth still in the bottom of your cup.
The future is all about managing in real-time the constant level of available bandwidth being used and recycled in a permanent state of quantity. It becomes the new gold. More powerful and sought after than even oil! That's the power of disconnecting any communication to and from anywhere for as long as they might feel the need. Social breakdown! | |
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| funnyfarker
join:2009-05-12
Maryland Heights, MO
| Re: Where's 60 MB? Call them and ask them to provision your modem to 60mb just for a minute so you can run a speed test for a hardware issue you are having(But be more imaginative than me)lol
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From what I understand (which is very limited) , the Docsis 2.0 modems that everybody has right now simply can't handle 60 megs.
So that just invalidated your whole post.
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Civrock
Premium
join:2005-06-25
North Wilkesboro, NC
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| viper3431
join:2003-04-21
STL, MO
| said by PiP :everyone CAN get 60mb right now. The lines are all set. Don't believe me? Good for you. Call them and ask them to provision your modem to 60mb just for a minute so you can run a speed test for a hardware issue you are having(But be more imaginative than me)lol The system is still learning and monitoring and making faster and faster decisions. Either you've posted this as a joke or you really are clueless about routing standards and DOCSIS specifications. If the local plant is not running DOCSIS 3 then 60mbit isn't gonna happen no matter how you look at it.
The "learning system" you refer to is likely engineers migrating areas over to the new private backbone which has seen mixed bag results over in that thread. | |
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| | Theta
join:2003-07-24
O Fallon, MO
| Re: Where's 60 MB? This just went in the direction of facepalm territory...
DOCSIS 2.0 is limited to 38mbit, and that applies to head-end and end-user alike.
The post stating that everyone can get 60mbit is not taking the physical hardware into account. In his mind, he's talking about bandwidth aggregation (and it's not possible in D2 land).
Listen... that argument is tantamount to saying that I can buy 100 gallons of gas for my car right now - Quicktrip has thousands of gallons of gas that's not being used, and my car can burn that gas RIGHT NOW.
The error in this is that my gas tank (DOCSIS 2) is limited to 38 gallons (absolute maximum), so how do I fit that 100 gallons into my tank? Not to mention the other problems that I would need to tie into this analogy (certain pumps can only pump 38 gallons at a time, etc).
Regardless, you get the idea. I hope to hell that he doesn't challenge me with a bandwidth capacitor theory... | |
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lxl r00k lxl
join:2008-10-15
Lenoir, NC
1 edit | I don't think it really matters! Most of us could be opened full throttle and still not get 10Mbps service. Hell next they say there starting direct lines ....ROCK AND ROLL!!
FTW...
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mbkownanon
@tmodns.net
| Wow that comparing gasoline to bandwidth is superlame. To bad you don't have to drill it out of the ground. Lay more fiber to the homes and larger backbones all over and were good. Fiber speed keeps improving more and more. Att needs to drop this copper crap and move on. Even 60mb is a patch to the long term of things. I'm talking about multi tbs pbs connections. The day will come... | |
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| Metatron2008
join:2008-09-02
Stockbridge, GA | Re: Where's 60 MB? Guys can we get back to the topic and stop focusing on the troll/lunatic/paranoid freak that is pip? | |
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PiP
join:2009-05-12
Pasadena, CA | Re: Where's 60 MB? "lunatic/paranoid freak that is pip?"
We shall see. | |
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| Theta
join:2003-07-24
O Fallon, MO
1 edit | said by mbkownanon :
Wow that comparing gasoline to bandwidth is superlame. To bad you don't have to drill it out of the ground. Lay more fiber to the homes and larger backbones all over and were good. Fiber speed keeps improving more and more. Att needs to drop this copper crap and move on. Even 60mb is a patch to the long term of things. I'm talking about multi tbs pbs connections. The day will come...
Wow, thanks for torching somebody who is on your side... I was pointing out how ludicrous PiP's rantings were. Way to be an a-hole. 
I'm one of the biggest proponents on this board for U60, and I've been using all of my avenues to get information to people here (although lately the Chater reps have been very helpful).
But by all means, go ahead and just whine about fiber until it comes - that's by far a more effective option. It doesn't even hold water, since we have fiber everywhere where I live (FTTN), and yet the head ends and 99% of the ISPs are not in a position to offer that much bandwidth yet. | |
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BoMarty
join:2001-02-01
Ballwin, MO | Those in St Louis area, are you also seeing the Ultra 60 TV commercials by Charter.
Channel 39 Head Line News ran the ad during lunch today. (06/02)
And also last night, but I don't remember the channel | |
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| Theta
join:2003-07-24
O Fallon, MO
| Re: Where's 60 MB? I had someone mention to me today that they saw a commercial for U60 - I remember thinking that was odd, but I guess it's true.
Now let's get it more rolled out, eh?  | |
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| | Metatron2008
join:2008-09-02
Stockbridge, GA | Re: Where's 60 MB? I still hope it shows up soon. | |
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markopoleo
join:2003-04-02
Bonne Terre, MO
·Charter Pipeline
| I got a call from that company contracted by charter uses to sell services from , they told me 60meg is now available in my area and if i want to sign up. I said yes, but after checking they said sorry but no modems are yet available in my area but would contact me as soon as they are. Price was $115 a month for just 60meg. | |
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| Theta
join:2003-07-24
O Fallon, MO
1 edit | Re: Where's 60 MB? Oh man, marko... Again you beat us to it!
You had 20mb before we did, too... Now I just have to come find you next time I'm down there.
said by yeahian :actually typing on a quirk laptop and not proofreading but heah it was 10pm! Just givin' you a hard time, of course. | |
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join:2004-12-03
Venice, CA
| Re: Where's 60 MB? said by Theta :Oh man, marko... Again you beat us to it! You had 20mb before we did, too... Now I just have to come find you next time I'm down there. said by yeahian :actually typing on a quirk laptop and not proofreading but heah it was 10pm! Just givin' you a hard time, of course. no worries i do need to learn and proof read! | |
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smw006007
Premium
join:2000-03-19
Wentzville, MO
1 edit | Any news Theta on 60MB out your way? I was just informed charter is finally going to be installing the lines in my new subdivision, and was hoping to jump on board the 60MB band wagon if my wife lets me.
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| Theta
join:2003-07-24
O Fallon, MO | Re: Where's 60 MB? Nothing here except disappointment. | |
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| | audiolocator
join:2001-11-30
Saint Peters, MO
| Re: Where's 60 MB? said by Theta :Nothing here except disappointment. Well, we are customers of Charter
Actually, I kid. I am very happy with my Charter service and have had only 1 minor issue in the past 5 years. | |
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join:2003-07-24
O Fallon, MO
| Re: Where's 60 MB? Agreed. I just wish rollouts went a bit smoother and more information was available.
The 10mb and 16mb rollouts were similar, so we're all used to it by now. Service uptime is good, though. | |
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BoMarty
join:2001-02-01
Ballwin, MO
| With the recent St Louis TV Ads, and print that was mailed. did Charter even expand the Ultra60? Seems not, frustrating for those that see TV ad and find out it is not available
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| Theta
join:2003-07-24
O Fallon, MO | Re: Where's 60 MB? The really frustrating part is that the CO here in St. Peters has D3 live, and U60 is available.
However, nobody's address shows U60 as provisionable in Aurora. Grr... | |
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edhoro
@swbell.net
| I just called today and was initially told I couldn't get u60 on the North Side of O'Fallon. The rep put me on hold and then came back and made sure I had a 100mb full duplex router hooked up to my modem and checked my modem's model number and said I was good to go.
He couldn't give me the actual price per month, but said he would call me back with the price before my 30day trial was up. I haven't been home to test it yet, but I cannot wait to get off work now. | |
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| xxBanDiTxx
join:2003-03-25
High Ridge, MO | Re: Where's 60 MB? I've had the 60MB service in High Ridge, MO for the past month or so, however it has recently dropped to 5mbps down and 5 mbps up for some reason. Still wrestling with Charter trying to get it resolved. | |
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| audiolocator
join:2001-11-30
Saint Peters, MO
| said by edhoro :
I just called today and was initially told I couldn't get u60 on the North Side of O'Fallon. The rep put me on hold and then came back and made sure I had a 100mb full duplex router hooked up to my modem and checked my modem's model number and said I was good to go.
He couldn't give me the actual price per month, but said he would call me back with the price before my 30day trial was up. I haven't been home to test it yet, but I cannot wait to get off work now.
You don't have it because you don't have a DOCSIS 3.0 modem | |
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join:2004-05-31 | Re: Where's 60 MB? LoL 60 meg, I'm still waiting on 20 meg. | |
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Hpower
Roflmao
join:2000-06-08
Glendale, CA | Man, that is fast lol! I guess I'll be able to order it by end of the year since I moving to a charter covered area next week.
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