NYlock78
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Re: [ Classes] 3.1 mage specs and gear (PvE & PvP)
I emailed it to my friend. Ill call him up and see if he tried it last night. He is asking whats the spell rotation |
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xcal78
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1 edit | said by NYlock78  :I emailed it to my friend. Ill call him up and see if he tried it last night. He is asking whats the spell rotation No Scorch
LB > Fireball spam - Use pyro when it procs and refresh LB when it expires
Scorch
LB > Scorch > Fireball spam - Use pyro when it procs and refresh LB and Scorch when they expire
From what I see LB and pyro are the main damage dealers. Your fireballs are just to crit for more pyro's. |
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NYlock78
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Moos
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Salt Lake City, UT | reply to xcal78
I am looking to make this switch possibly as well. Let me know how it works out for you. |
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NYlock78
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Paterson, NJ | ill let you know how it works for my friend. I wont go mage I would feel like im cheating my Lock |
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Proteos
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For FB/TTW your fireball is your main nuke...it will do 50% or more of you dmg in a fight. Pyro's are second. As far as rotations it is very simple...LB, scorch (if no lock with imp shadowbolt), FB spam until pyro procs...then more FB spam until LB expires then cast LB and more FB. You should make it through 2 living bombs b4 scorch needs to be refreshed. The key to doing good dps as a fire mage is standing still, i only reposition myself when i cast LB or a pyro...b/c they are instant cast and you move while the GCD is up (unless you need to move outta fire or something). |
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Mashiki
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said by xcal78 :All bosses should be getting snared from some ability. Generally the tanks abilities provide this. I'm not well versed on which abilities/spells are 'snares' but there's dozens of them. Anyone else have alist of abilities/spells that count as 'snares' for TTW? I got lazy, I started out writing a list then ran across these on wowhead:
Hunter - Frost Trap, Concussive Shot, Wing Clip
Mage - Frost Bolt, Cone of Cold, Improved Blizzard, Slow
Priest- Mind Flay
Rogue- Crippling Poision, Deadly Throw
Shaman - Frost Shock, Earthbind Totem
Warlock- Curse of Exhaustion
Warrior- Hamstring, Piercing Howl
Warriors (Shield Bash), Warlocks (Aftermath), Hunters (Concussive Barrage), Rogues (Blade Twisting) Paladin (Avengers Shield) and Mages (Blast Wave) also have the ability to daze targets, which will count as a snare too.
Also these:
Warriors: Thunder Clap
Paladins: Judgements of the Just
Druids: Infected Wounds
Death Knight: Icy Touch
Hit rating you'll want about 330-340? raid unbuffed, so you'll hit 440 raid buffed(that's with all the goodies like draenei hit, Imp.FF/Misery and so on.
Yeah I used Fire/TTW in raiding right until I quit. I gave it a go in a naxx quick fill about oh a week ago, when the guild was short and I popped on to talk. I still pulled around 4.5-5k in my el-crappo naxx gear.
Good posts imo.  Really, from what I heard from my replacement Ulduar is sunwelling mages. So if your DPS looks like shit, it might just be because of stuff outside of your control. |
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Mashiki
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said by xcal78 :Mashiki: Is this the FB/TTW spec you use? Sorry I completely missed this post. Here's my current build. It's a personal preference, some people like the increased range. Personally I couldn't give anything over it, but that's just me. 
»www.wowhead.com/?talent#of0Vcu0c···IhVhbhct
I also like the extra spirit from arcane, since the changes from and you figure in glyph of molten armor. On top of that, combustion is highly over rated now since Living Bomb eats your combustion charges when you have it up. Use the point for something else, like blastwave. Or a point in flame throwing. Personally, there's a bit of variation in the builds but nothing too huge. It's whatever you feel comfortable with in your play style. |
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xcal78
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| said by Mashiki :On top of that, combustion is highly over rated now since Living Bomb eats your combustion charges when you have it up. I didn't even think about that. Thanks for the help. |
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andy7117
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| said by xcal78 :said by Mashiki :On top of that, combustion is highly over rated now since Living Bomb eats your combustion charges when you have it up. I didn't even think about that. Thanks for the help. I still say take Combustion, lose the point in Flame Throwing. Combustion's always good when you need to proc Hot Streak.
Just how I see it, extra 3 yards on your fire spells or 2 10k fireball crits followed by a big pyroblast. |
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doopy
@co.uk | Can i ask what spell rotatition i should be using with this spec? Im currently FFB and do scorch, living bomb, FFB, pyro (on proc). I keep living bomb up and scorch x5. |
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andy7117
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Newmarket, ON
| said by doopy :
Can i ask what spell rotatition i should be using with this spec? Im currently FFB and do scorch, living bomb, FFB, pyro (on proc). I keep living bomb up and scorch x5.
That's exactly what you should be doing. Some say LB before scorch IMO doesn't make any difference. |
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NYlock78
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Paterson, NJ | reply to xcal78
You guys are talking another language to me but ill pass the info to my friend. incase you want to give pointers his name is Barrex on feathermoon server alliance |
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Proteos
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Menomonee Falls, WI
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said by doopy :
Can i ask what spell rotatition i should be using with this spec? Im currently FFB and do scorch, living bomb, FFB, pyro (on proc). I keep living bomb up and scorch x5.
Your casting Fireballs and not FFB right? |
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Mashiki
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said by andy7117 :I still say take Combustion, lose the point in Flame Throwing. Combustion's always good when you need to proc Hot Streak. Just how I see it, extra 3 yards on your fire spells or 2 10k fireball crits followed by a big pyroblast. Mediocre, since everything is RNG unless you time it 100% accurately you can still end up with a LB tick eating your combustion. Which means that you'd get two crits, and a 50/50% chance of a pyroblast crit. And then you're back to your normal rotation. |
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Mashiki
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said by doopy :
Can i ask what spell rotatition i should be using with this spec? Im currently FFB and do scorch, living bomb, FFB, pyro (on proc). I keep living bomb up and scorch x5. Fire/TTW and FFB are pretty much the same, if you can do one you can do the other.
Scorch up, get LB up, cast Fireball/FFB, weave pyros and refresh dots/debuffs as needed per rotation.
So:
SCx5, LBx1, FB/FFBx5-7, SCx1, w/pyro-weaving |
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xcal78
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Arcane 57/3/11 |
You can shift points around on a few things to tweak the spec the way you like it. You could ditch Magic Attunment for Student of the Mind for example. Frostbite and Perafrost talents aren't required for anything but filler to get Icy Veins so move those as you like. You shouldn't need 'Slow' but it's 1 point and helpful to solo dailies so I grab it. Feel free to ditch it if you see something else that 1 point could help you out with more.
Attached: sample talent build for arcane where red boxes are critical to get for maximum dps. The only exception I'd add is I feel Arcane Meditation is critcal for mana regen but again that's up to you on how you use your arcane spec. |
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gangral
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Mashiki
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It hasn't changed too much You might need to weave a bit. |
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xcal78
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1 edit | Yea arcane rotation is very simple. I toss a 4th AB into my rotation since my mana can support that but other then that I use it the same as anyone else. ABx3 then abar if mbarr isn't proc'ed. I will drop a fire blast in there after ABx3 sometimes to try 1 last time to proc mbarr then abarr if I can't proc it but it depends on the fight. |
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