soitgoes2
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Re: In conclusion, CALLER ID NAME is unavailable on TNID.org
said by FenixSucks  :Well, they found even more way to milk users. What was free on TNID, to remove your name from being available, you must now purchase a $4.95 privilege to keep your information unavailable through their pay service. By that, it probably means hidden, not destroy. "Yes, I want to make my data private. I'd like to remove my personal information from public data sources so that others cannot access it. I understand that for a one-time fee of just $4.95, I'll receive an Online Privacy Protection package with complete removal instructions. (Recommended) " That's not on tnid.org--that's the service they link to through a referral link, reversephonedetective.com.
It is not the same thing as the file on tnid.org
»www.reversephonedetective.com/faq.html
Also note the entire answer to the question:
How do I get my own information deleted from these databases?
We take your privacy very seriously. You can "opt-out" of our website and members area for free online here.
Our opt-out system prevents your information from appearing to users that visit ReversePhoneDetective.com. It does not, however, remove your records from the source databases that we use (we have no control over these). That's why we created our Online Privacy Protection™ package.
This package will help you remove your personal information from 44 of these databases-- and prevent certain data-brokers from selling your records in the future. You can purchase this package for just $4.95 on our registration page by selecting the check box near the bottom that says "Yes, I want to make my data private." They let you opt out of reversephonedetective.com for FREE and then try to upsell a $4.95 product to remove you from a number of source databases. |
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NY Tel
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I stand by my original comments and observations. Can't fool a New yorker. |
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FenixSucks
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said by N9MD :said by FenixSucks :Yes, but this is not an solicitation for business board. I agree ... with reservations. Yes, the BBR Forums prohibit blatant shilling and advertising and marketing. However, the Moderators seem to permit a bit of commercialism from time to time such as when RockyBB tastefully offers a recommendation to those looking for Business VoIP services (asking that he be sent a PM) - or - DogFace05 indicates his willingness to help unlock an ATA device for a fee (asking that he be sent a PM) -or - one of the top level VoIP execs reveals a new feature or pricing structure (which can be construed as seeking more business). I, for one, have not seen flagrant commercialism on the part of the tnid guy. Rather, it has been some of the responding posters who have "bashed" the tnid website (not topgun98's Forum posts) for its links to "fee for search" options. I'm just trying to provide some balance to remarks made by you (and others) ... I'm not looking to do battle. But let's not make topgun98 out to be a badguy. Well, they found even more way to milk users. What was free on TNID, to remove your name from being available, you must now purchase a $4.95 privilege to keep your information unavailable through their pay service.
By that, it probably means hidden, not destroy.
"Yes, I want to make my data private. I'd like to remove my personal information from public data sources so that others cannot access it. I understand that for a one-time fee of just $4.95, I'll receive an Online Privacy Protection package with complete removal instructions. (Recommended) " |
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N9MD
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said by FenixSucks :Yes, but this is not an solicitation for business board. I agree ... with reservations. Yes, the BBR Forums prohibit blatant shilling and advertising and marketing. However, the Moderators seem to permit a bit of commercialism from time to time such as when RockyBB tastefully offers a recommendation to those looking for Business VoIP services (asking that he be sent a PM) - or - DogFace05 indicates his willingness to help unlock an ATA device for a fee (asking that he be sent a PM) -or - one of the top level VoIP execs reveals a new feature or pricing structure (which can be construed as seeking more business).
I, for one, have not seen flagrant commercialism on the part of the tnid guy. Rather, it has been some of the responding posters who have "bashed" the tnid website (not topgun98's Forum posts) for its links to "fee for search" options.
I'm just trying to provide some balance to remarks made by you (and others) ... I'm not looking to do battle. But let's not make topgun98 out to be a badguy. |
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FenixSucks
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Yes, but this is not an solicitation for business board. |
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N9MD
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said by FenixSucks : ... If members here were to contact you, would you provide the information no strings attached, or are you going to ask for personal information and/or $$$$ ? FenixSucks, you have have every right to post this question ... but I would advise topgun98 to withhold an answer (if he is wont to do so).
In the past, we suffered an embroglio when a poster challenged dogface05's right to charge for his "adapter unlocking" services. Insults were hurled between the "pro" and "con" camps ... and nothing was resolved ... but hurt feelings lingered.
topgun98 has been available and open to responding to questions concerning tnid.org functionality ... and he has accurately countered misstatements made by some.
Let's give him credit for a website that does afford us a free service when checking out the original and current controlling entities of any given DID. He has every right to ask for compensation for certain advanced requests, if that is his desire ... and, if we want the additional info, we must pay the piper. As one of my dear friends who flunked high school Spanish I twice likes to say: "Commercio es commercio." ("Business is business.") There is no hidden agenda in topgun98's responses. |
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FenixSucks
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Verizon Wireless people
Also, for Verizon Wireless users, if you're interested in checking if the #s you are curious about are VZW as well for the purpose of M2M minutes, you can check that on your account on vzw.com, or on your handset, Go to My Account, M2M(option 8), then enter up to 3 phone numbers and it will report back if the #s are eligible for M2M. |
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FenixSucks
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In conclusion, CALLER ID NAME is unavailable on TNID.org
said by topgun98 (proprietor of TNID.org) :
With all of that said, we still have full real-time LIDB access. We chose not to display CNAM results for now for reasons I'm willing to discuss in private, but if anyone needs CNAM, Name and Address, Current Provider, or any other LIDB information, please don't hesitate to contact me directly at sales@tnid.org.
Cheers!
I believe it was mentioned somewhere that the service wasn't really for our benefits, but to draw people into shelling out $$$ for per-pay information.
IMO it's sketchy that you decline to discuss reasons in public.
If members here were to contact you, would you provide the information no strings attached, or are you going to ask for personal information and/or $$$$ ? |
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topgun98
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1 edit | reply to RockyBB
Re: What carrier controls your phone number?
said by Fisamo :It would be good to know why the site no longer shows CNAM info and if that feature is likely to be revived any time soon, even if only on a pay-basis Don't worry -- It will be back. Right now we're concentrating on taking care of our commercial customers, though. Contact me privately for details.
said by FenixSucks :Type in a number and it will only lead you to a site which you must PURCHASE the information, which I'm sure is in violation of the database access grantee's terms of use. That's incorrect. The addresses don't come from LIDB through that service. It doesn't violate anyone's terms of use.
said by FenixSucks :Same functions can be obtained from Searchbug.com landline or cell look up and I'm sure many other databases. The only thing that made TNID worth anything is that it provided a hot access to LIDB, but that's no more. That's also incorrect. Searchbug offers only watered down LERG data that shows what telco is assigned the exchange a given phone number is in. TNID shows the actual current provider, and where do you suppose that comes from? (Hint: It starts with "L" and ends in "DB")
With all of that said, we still have full real-time LIDB access. We chose not to display CNAM results for now for reasons I'm willing to discuss in private, but if anyone needs CNAM, Name and Address, Current Provider, or any other LIDB information, please don't hesitate to contact me directly at sales@tnid.org.
Cheers! |
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soitgoes2
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Re: TNID.ORG no longer offers LIDB lookup. Useless.
said by PX Eliezer :Searchbug is interesting, but their carrier data is definitely out of date compared to TNID.ORG It's not really out-of-date, it's just llimited to NPA-NXX-N block assignment info, which is provided on many sites. |
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PX Eliezer
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Agreed here too.
Searchbug is interesting, but their carrier data is definitely out of date compared to TNID.ORG
I don't care about caller ID. It's the carrier data that's of primary interest. |
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NY Tel
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said by RockyBB :said by usa2k :said by NY Tel :The searchbug.com info is not up-to-date ... Noted! So their URL name is apt  Let's all be accurate. searchbug says "issued" not current carrier. so it's not a bug ... it's just not answering the question of "current carrier." Agreed. |
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RockyBB
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said by usa2k :said by NY Tel :The searchbug.com info is not up-to-date ... Noted! So their URL name is apt Let's all be accurate. searchbug says "issued" not current carrier. so it's not a bug ... it's just not answering the question of "current carrier." |
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usa2k
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1 edit |  reply to NY Tel
said by NY Tel :The searchbug.com info is not up-to-date ... Noted! So their URL name is apt |
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RockyBB
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Re: What carrier controls your phone number?
said by FenixSucks :TNID.ORG no longer offers LIDB lookup. Useless.
Now the TNID.ORG is more or less COMPLETELY USELESS I admire your passion, but you need to work on your accuracy. Though tnid.org no longer accesses caller ID info, it still accesses the LRN database, and seems to continue to provide accurate information about the current carrier of a phone number, which is the title of this thread.
If it were me, I would have stated simply "hey guys, TNID.ORG doesn't have caller ID info anymore, but you can get it at searchbug.com." That would have been friendlier and more helpful. |
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NY Tel
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Smithtown, NY | reply to usa2k
Re: TNID.ORG no longer offers LIDB lookup. Useless.
The searchbug.com info is not up-to-date as far as current carrier. 100% of the 9 numbers I searched showed the original carrier of record but in each of these instances, the person has chosen a different carrier and has long since ported to them. |
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usa2k
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Excellent tip! »searchbug.com is a great resource for all of us to remember.
$9.95 for possibly similar extra cost info.
The LIDB info costs each time.
I could see an advertisement-based version ...
Play a short video before rendering the info perhaps.
Even so, some company might archive/cache the result.
I do not know what the LIDB TOS was, but I expect that is where they went too far before.
In truth, I miss »anywho.com before ATT bought them out.
ANYWHO used to let you update your personal details in their listing. You updated info online, then confirmed, from a phone with matching CID, by calling a toll free number.
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Jim, VoIP 12/2002, VOIPo 2/2007
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FenixSucks
join:2007-06-21
Portland, OR | reply to usa2k
True, but the same information has been available on searchbug.com landline or cell long before them.
The differentiation between them and TIRS/TNID was that it provided real CNAM from a live LIDB. |
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usa2k
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The site looks fineto me. The free part is all most would want.(And more user friendly now!) |
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soitgoes2
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said by FenixSucks :The only thing that made TNID worth anything is that it provided a hot access to LIDB, but that's no more. No. What made and makes the site useful is access to *provider* information.
This is especially helpful for ports.
The site currently doesn't have CNAM at all; the so-called paid feature you are referring to was there all along (even when CNAM was being provided) and it just links to
»www.reversephonedetective.com
The site remains useful for underlying carrier information. |
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