Topic 'What carrier controls your phone number?' in forum 'VOIP Tech Chat'

Topic 'What carrier controls your phone number?' in forum 'VOIP Tech Chat' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22336890 en Tue, 07 Feb 2012 23:08:43 EDT Tue, 07 Feb 2012 23:08:43 EDT Re: In conclusion, CALLER ID NAME is unavailable on TNID.org http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-In-conclusion-CALLER-ID-NAME-is-unavailable-on-TNIDorg-22847308 said by FenixSucks:

Well, they found even more way to milk users. What was free on TNID, to remove your name from being available, you must now purchase a $4.95 privilege to keep your information unavailable through their pay service.

By that, it probably means hidden, not destroy.

"Yes, I want to make my data private. I'd like to remove my personal information from public data sources so that others cannot access it. I understand that for a one-time fee of just $4.95, I'll receive an Online Privacy Protection package with complete removal instructions. (Recommended) "
That's not on tnid.org--that's the service they link to through a referral link, reversephonedetective.com.

It is not the same thing as the file on tnid.org

»www.reversephonedetective.com/faq.html

Also note the entire answer to the question:

How do I get my own information deleted from these databases?
We take your privacy very seriously. You can "opt-out" of our website and members area for free online here.

Our opt-out system prevents your information from appearing to users that visit ReversePhoneDetective.com. It does not, however, remove your records from the source databases that we use (we have no control over these). That's why we created our Online Privacy Protection™ package.

This package will help you remove your personal information from 44 of these databases-- and prevent certain data-brokers from selling your records in the future. You can purchase this package for just $4.95 on our registration page by selecting the check box near the bottom that says "Yes, I want to make my data private."

They let you opt out of reversephonedetective.com for FREE and then try to upsell a $4.95 product to remove you from a number of source databases.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-In-conclusion-CALLER-ID-NAME-is-unavailable-on-TNIDorg-22847308 Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:55:04 EDT Re: In conclusion, CALLER ID NAME is unavailable on TNID.org http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-In-conclusion-CALLER-ID-NAME-is-unavailable-on-TNIDorg-22844944 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-In-conclusion-CALLER-ID-NAME-is-unavailable-on-TNIDorg-22844944 Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:45:52 EDT Re: In conclusion, CALLER ID NAME is unavailable on TNID.org http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-In-conclusion-CALLER-ID-NAME-is-unavailable-on-TNIDorg-22844903 said by N9MD:

said by FenixSucks:

Yes, but this is not an solicitation for business board.

I agree ... with reservations. Yes, the BBR Forums prohibit blatant shilling and advertising and marketing. However, the Moderators seem to permit a bit of commercialism from time to time such as when RockyBB tastefully offers a recommendation to those looking for Business VoIP services (asking that he be sent a PM) - or - DogFace05 indicates his willingness to help unlock an ATA device for a fee (asking that he be sent a PM) -or - one of the top level VoIP execs reveals a new feature or pricing structure (which can be construed as seeking more business).

I, for one, have not seen flagrant commercialism on the part of the tnid guy. Rather, it has been some of the responding posters who have "bashed" the tnid website (not topgun98's Forum posts) for its links to "fee for search" options.

I'm just trying to provide some balance to remarks made by you (and others) ... I'm not looking to do battle. But let's not make topgun98 out to be a badguy.
Well, they found even more way to milk users. What was free on TNID, to remove your name from being available, you must now purchase a $4.95 privilege to keep your information unavailable through their pay service.

By that, it probably means hidden, not destroy.

"Yes, I want to make my data private. I'd like to remove my personal information from public data sources so that others cannot access it. I understand that for a one-time fee of just $4.95, I'll receive an Online Privacy Protection package with complete removal instructions. (Recommended) "]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-In-conclusion-CALLER-ID-NAME-is-unavailable-on-TNIDorg-22844903 Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:39:32 EDT Re: In conclusion, CALLER ID NAME is unavailable on TNID.org http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-In-conclusion-CALLER-ID-NAME-is-unavailable-on-TNIDorg-22727425 said by FenixSucks:

Yes, but this is not an solicitation for business board.
I agree ... with reservations. Yes, the BBR Forums prohibit blatant shilling and advertising and marketing. However, the Moderators seem to permit a bit of commercialism from time to time such as when RockyBB tastefully offers a recommendation to those looking for Business VoIP services (asking that he be sent a PM) - or - DogFace05 indicates his willingness to help unlock an ATA device for a fee (asking that he be sent a PM) -or - one of the top level VoIP execs reveals a new feature or pricing structure (which can be construed as seeking more business).

I, for one, have not seen flagrant commercialism on the part of the tnid guy. Rather, it has been some of the responding posters who have "bashed" the tnid website (not topgun98's Forum posts) for its links to "fee for search" options.

I'm just trying to provide some balance to remarks made by you (and others) ... I'm not looking to do battle. But let's not make topgun98 out to be a badguy.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-In-conclusion-CALLER-ID-NAME-is-unavailable-on-TNIDorg-22727425 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:25:55 EDT Re: In conclusion, CALLER ID NAME is unavailable on TNID.org http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-In-conclusion-CALLER-ID-NAME-is-unavailable-on-TNIDorg-22726130 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-In-conclusion-CALLER-ID-NAME-is-unavailable-on-TNIDorg-22726130 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:13:43 EDT Re: In conclusion, CALLER ID NAME is unavailable on TNID.org http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-In-conclusion-CALLER-ID-NAME-is-unavailable-on-TNIDorg-22720750 said by FenixSucks:

... If members here were to contact you, would you provide the information no strings attached, or are you going to ask for personal information and/or $$$$ ?
FenixSucks, you have have every right to post this question ... but I would advise topgun98 to withhold an answer (if he is wont to do so).

In the past, we suffered an embroglio when a poster challenged dogface05's right to charge for his "adapter unlocking" services. Insults were hurled between the "pro" and "con" camps ... and nothing was resolved ... but hurt feelings lingered.

topgun98 has been available and open to responding to questions concerning tnid.org functionality ... and he has accurately countered misstatements made by some.

Let's give him credit for a website that does afford us a free service when checking out the original and current controlling entities of any given DID. He has every right to ask for compensation for certain advanced requests, if that is his desire ... and, if we want the additional info, we must pay the piper. As one of my dear friends who flunked high school Spanish I twice likes to say: "Commercio es commercio." ("Business is business.") There is no hidden agenda in topgun98's responses.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-In-conclusion-CALLER-ID-NAME-is-unavailable-on-TNIDorg-22720750 Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:42:31 EDT Verizon Wireless people http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Verizon-Wireless-people-22716137 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Verizon-Wireless-people-22716137 Thu, 16 Jul 2009 02:53:03 EDT In conclusion, CALLER ID NAME is unavailable on TNID.org http://www.dslreports.com/forum/In-conclusion-CALLER-ID-NAME-is-unavailable-on-TNIDorg-22716129 said by topgun98 (proprietor of TNID.org) :

With all of that said, we still have full real-time LIDB access. We chose not to display CNAM results for now for reasons I'm willing to discuss in private, but if anyone needs CNAM, Name and Address, Current Provider, or any other LIDB information, please don't hesitate to contact me directly at sales@tnid.org.

Cheers!

I believe it was mentioned somewhere that the service wasn't really for our benefits, but to draw people into shelling out $$$ for per-pay information.

IMO it's sketchy that you decline to discuss reasons in public.

If members here were to contact you, would you provide the information no strings attached, or are you going to ask for personal information and/or $$$$ ? ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/In-conclusion-CALLER-ID-NAME-is-unavailable-on-TNIDorg-22716129 Thu, 16 Jul 2009 02:48:55 EDT Re: TNID.ORG no longer offers LIDB lookup. Useless. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-TNIDORG-no-longer-offers-LIDB-lookup-Useless-22654400 said by PX Eliezer:

Searchbug is interesting, but their carrier data is definitely out of date compared to TNID.ORG It's not really out-of-date, it's just llimited to NPA-NXX-N block assignment info, which is provided on many sites.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-TNIDORG-no-longer-offers-LIDB-lookup-Useless-22654400 Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:27:39 EDT Re: TNID.ORG no longer offers LIDB lookup. Useless. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-TNIDORG-no-longer-offers-LIDB-lookup-Useless-22654360
Searchbug is interesting, but their carrier data is definitely out of date compared to TNID.ORG

I don't care about caller ID. It's the carrier data that's of primary interest.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-TNIDORG-no-longer-offers-LIDB-lookup-Useless-22654360 Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:15:20 EDT Re: TNID.ORG no longer offers LIDB lookup. Useless. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-TNIDORG-no-longer-offers-LIDB-lookup-Useless-22654214 said by RockyBB:

said by usa2k:

said by NY Tel:

The searchbug.com info is not up-to-date ...

Noted! So their URL name is apt :)

Let's all be accurate. searchbug says "issued" not current carrier. so it's not a bug ... it's just not answering the question of "current carrier."
Agreed.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-TNIDORG-no-longer-offers-LIDB-lookup-Useless-22654214 Sat, 04 Jul 2009 15:24:20 EDT Re: TNID.ORG no longer offers LIDB lookup. Useless. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-TNIDORG-no-longer-offers-LIDB-lookup-Useless-22653451 said by usa2k:

said by NY Tel:

The searchbug.com info is not up-to-date ...

Noted! So their URL name is apt :)
Let's all be accurate. searchbug says "issued" not current carrier. so it's not a bug ... it's just not answering the question of "current carrier."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-TNIDORG-no-longer-offers-LIDB-lookup-Useless-22653451 Sat, 04 Jul 2009 11:19:34 EDT Re: TNID.ORG no longer offers LIDB lookup. Useless. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-TNIDORG-no-longer-offers-LIDB-lookup-Useless-22653355 said by NY Tel:

The searchbug.com info is not up-to-date ...
~~Noted! So their URL name is apt~~]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-TNIDORG-no-longer-offers-LIDB-lookup-Useless-22653355 Sat, 04 Jul 2009 10:45:54 EDT Re: What carrier controls your phone number? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22653300 said by FenixSucks:

TNID.ORG no longer offers LIDB lookup. Useless.
Now the TNID.ORG is more or less COMPLETELY USELESS
I admire your passion, but you need to work on your accuracy. Though tnid.org no longer accesses caller ID info, it still accesses the LRN database, and seems to continue to provide accurate information about the current carrier of a phone number, which is the title of this thread.

If it were me, I would have stated simply "hey guys, TNID.ORG doesn't have caller ID info anymore, but you can get it at searchbug.com." That would have been friendlier and more helpful.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22653300 Sat, 04 Jul 2009 10:30:04 EDT Re: TNID.ORG no longer offers LIDB lookup. Useless. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-TNIDORG-no-longer-offers-LIDB-lookup-Useless-22653229 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-TNIDORG-no-longer-offers-LIDB-lookup-Useless-22653229 Sat, 04 Jul 2009 10:01:39 EDT Re: TNID.ORG no longer offers LIDB lookup. Useless. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-TNIDORG-no-longer-offers-LIDB-lookup-Useless-22653198 searchbug.com is a great resource for all of us to remember. :)
$9.95 for possibly similar extra cost info.

The LIDB info costs each time.
I could see an advertisement-based version ...
Play a short video before rendering the info perhaps.
Even so, some company might archive/cache the result.
I do not know what the LIDB TOS was, but I expect that is where they went too far before.

In truth, I miss »anywho.com before ATT bought them out.

ANYWHO used to let you update your personal details in their listing. You updated info online, then confirmed, from a phone with matching CID, by calling a toll free number.
--

Jim, VoIP 12/2002, VOIPo 2/2007
FAH-Tool ... Pets ... USA2K site ... Artist-247]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-TNIDORG-no-longer-offers-LIDB-lookup-Useless-22653198 Sat, 04 Jul 2009 09:46:32 EDT Re: TNID.ORG no longer offers LIDB lookup. Useless. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-TNIDORG-no-longer-offers-LIDB-lookup-Useless-22652949
The differentiation between them and TIRS/TNID was that it provided real CNAM from a live LIDB. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-TNIDORG-no-longer-offers-LIDB-lookup-Useless-22652949 Sat, 04 Jul 2009 06:33:59 EDT Re: TNID.ORG no longer offers LIDB lookup. Useless. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-TNIDORG-no-longer-offers-LIDB-lookup-Useless-22652816 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-TNIDORG-no-longer-offers-LIDB-lookup-Useless-22652816 Sat, 04 Jul 2009 03:31:17 EDT Re: TNID.ORG no longer offers LIDB lookup. Useless. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-TNIDORG-no-longer-offers-LIDB-lookup-Useless-22652777 said by FenixSucks:

The only thing that made TNID worth anything is that it provided a hot access to LIDB, but that's no more.
No. What made and makes the site useful is access to *provider* information.
This is especially helpful for ports.

The site currently doesn't have CNAM at all; the so-called paid feature you are referring to was there all along (even when CNAM was being provided) and it just links to
»www.reversephonedetective.com

The site remains useful for underlying carrier information.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-TNIDORG-no-longer-offers-LIDB-lookup-Useless-22652777 Sat, 04 Jul 2009 02:55:22 EDT TNID.ORG no longer offers LIDB lookup. Useless. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/TNIDORG-no-longer-offers-LIDB-lookup-Useless-22652691 Now the TNID.ORG is more or less COMPLETELY USELESS

Type in a number and it will only lead you to a site which you must PURCHASE the information, which I'm sure is in violation of the database access grantee's terms of use.

Same functions can be obtained from
Searchbug.com landline or cell look up and I'm sure many other databases. The only thing that made TNID worth anything is that it provided a hot access to LIDB, but that's no more. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/TNIDORG-no-longer-offers-LIDB-lookup-Useless-22652691 Sat, 04 Jul 2009 01:59:07 EDT Re: "You Are Correct, Sir" http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-You-Are-Correct-Sir-22601811 thinkcommon.com/blog/2009/06/24/···2%80%9D/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-You-Are-Correct-Sir-22601811 Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:30:02 EDT Re: "You Are Correct, Sir" http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-You-Are-Correct-Sir-22601564 said by PX Eliezer:

said by N9MD:

said by NY Tel:

And as Johnny Carson used to say:

Since we've gotten there---

Thanks to Conan O'Brien for a classy tribute to Ed McMahon on the Tonight show just now. Really. :)
Oh I missed it. Don't watch Conan. Can't wait for Jay Leno to return. Conan is sophomoric in his humor. Temporarily, I have switched to Letterman and re-runs of Seinfeld. Anything but Conan....Just my opinion. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-You-Are-Correct-Sir-22601564 Wed, 24 Jun 2009 08:30:30 EDT Re: "You Are Correct, Sir" http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-You-Are-Correct-Sir-22601022
Synchron :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-You-Are-Correct-Sir-22601022 Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:54:28 EDT "You Are Correct, Sir" http://www.dslreports.com/forum/You-Are-Correct-Sir-22600711 said by N9MD:

said by NY Tel:

And as Johnny Carson used to say:

Since we've gotten there---

Thanks to Conan O'Brien for a classy tribute to Ed McMahon on the Tonight show just now. Really. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/You-Are-Correct-Sir-22600711 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:59:45 EDT Re: What carrier controls your phone number? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22600466 said by NY Tel:

And as Johny Carson used to say:

"How do you get there? Let me tell you friends, how do you get there! You take the San Diego Freeway to the Ventura Freeway. You drive to the Slauson Cutoff, get out of your car, cut off your Slauson, get back in your car, then you drive six miles till you see the Giant Neon Vice-Squad Cop."
Ah! But you forgot to "take the Oxnard off ramp." :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22600466 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:58:27 EDT Re: What carrier controls your phone number? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22600442 Area codes have increasingly little to do with areas, especially considering overlays.

Moreover, the PHYSICAL location of a switch is NOT necessarily related to its area code.

Bud Abbott said it decades ago:

If a fat man's belly protrudes over the bar, it still does not belong to the bartender.

My fellow New Jersey guys.

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22600442 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:53:45 EDT Re: What carrier controls your phone number? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22600297 said by synchron:

Dazed & Confused!
you certainly are. Irvine is area code 949.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22600297 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:21:35 EDT Re: What carrier controls your phone number? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22599749 said by burgerwars:

Given time, a few more earthquakes, geologic drift, and a few million years, Agoura should be down in Orange County by then. The database is just ahead of its time.
And as Johny Carson used to say:

"How do you get there? Let me tell you friends, how do you get there! You take the San Diego Freeway to the Ventura Freeway. You drive to the Slauson Cutoff, get out of your car, cut off your Slauson, get back in your car, then you drive six miles till you see the Giant Neon Vice-Squad Cop."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22599749 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:37:18 EDT Re: What carrier controls your phone number? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22599679 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22599679 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:25:08 EDT Re: What carrier controls your phone number? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22599627
I'm in Simi Valley (805) and I got a free DID today from sipgate one in Agoura Hills (818), please tell me this is true and that it is NOT in Irvine (714).

Dazed & Confused!

Synchron. :huh:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22599627 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:14:23 EDT Re: What carrier controls your phone number? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22599553
Physical switch location is often VERY different from ratecenter!!

Can EASILY be 50-75 miles.

This is ESPECIALLY true in CLEC situations.

------------------------------

Don't be blame the site,
cuz they did had it RIGHT!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22599553 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:00:35 EDT Re: What carrier controls your phone number? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22599489 said by synchron:

. . . saying it's in Agoura Hills CA (local to my Lata) but this site says it's in Irvine, CA, about 75 miles away! Maybe confusion of ratecenter and switch location?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22599489 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:50:09 EDT Re: What carrier controls your phone number? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22599473 said by synchron:

Bad database!
or user misinterpretation?

Los Angeles area is huge, as you know, and CLECs don't have CLLIs based on local wire centers...which is why the tnid site says "estimated" local city, because your number could be local to lots of areas.

Check out: »www.telcodata.us/telcodata/ratec···state=ca You'll see all the area code and exchanges in the Agoura rate center ... but look under the CLLI column and you'll see Los Angeles and Long Beach and Anaheim and Irvine!

The meat of the site is what carrier is handling the phone number after porting.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22599473 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:47:54 EDT Re: What carrier controls your phone number? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22599404

... I also think that NY Tel

knew that. ;)

Rocky, thanks for pointing this site out. It would be good to know why the site no longer shows CNAM info and if that feature is likely to be revived any time soon, even if only on a pay-basis ($0.009/lookup is what Vitelity charges).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22599404 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:35:12 EDT Re: What carrier controls your phone number? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22599327
I just got a new DID for free today saying it's in Agoura Hills CA (local to my Lata) but this site says it's in Irvine, CA, about 75 miles away!

Bad database!

Synchron :p]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22599327 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:22:59 EDT Re: What carrier controls your phone number? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22599162 said by PX Eliezer:

Agreed. The carrier lookup is a very useful service.
Yes but the site says "providing free caller ID lookups" when that is not true.
That's the part that I think is "Less than true" so my only point is that they should call it free carrier lookup :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22599162 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:50:27 EDT Re: What carrier controls your phone number? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22598866 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22598866 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:53:43 EDT Re: What carrier controls your phone number? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22598307
I don't know of any other site, surely not free, that offers post-porting DID carrier information. So certainly this site still has much meat to it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22598307 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:24:24 EDT Re: What carrier controls your phone number? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22598061 said by NY Tel:

I'll take my chances elsewhere.
yeah, me too. The next time I find something useful, I'll keep it to myself. those that were appreciative of a source for the info about what carrier is handling a phone number post-porting were far outnumbered by the crybabies, complainers and fault-finders. No, the site turned out not to be perfect or real time, but it is much more than anyone else gave us, and it was free. What was the guy's reward for putting that together? A load of accusations and threats from too many forum members. If I was the owner of the site, I would have shut it down altogether.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22598061 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:50:41 EDT Re: What carrier controls your phone number? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22597889 said by unknvoip:

said by NY Tel:

The free stuff was a come-on to get us hooked.

Yup, just another redirect to a pay too much for reverse phone search info. :(
14.95 for an inquiry? I'll take my chances elsewhere.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22597889 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:28:40 EDT Re: What carrier controls your phone number? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22595498 said by NY Tel:

The free stuff was a come-on to get us hooked.
Yup, just another redirect to a pay too much for reverse phone search info. :(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22595498 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 08:47:21 EDT Re: What carrier controls your phone number? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22589175 said by NY Tel:

The site has been totally re-designed and there is now no way to get "free Caller ID" lookups.
Check it out. The free stuff was a come-on to get us hooked.
You are probably right as far as the CID. However, it is still very helpful to have the info on the original and current carriers.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22589175 Sun, 21 Jun 2009 23:56:00 EDT Re: What carrier controls your phone number? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22589140 said by phoneguy2009 :

said by topgun98:

- It is not a "bug" that the Caller ID is cached after the first request. However, the data is not cached forever. After a set number of days, the SS7/TCAP query is executed when someone requests it. Please keep in mind that we're spending hundreds of dollars on Caller ID queries, and we're giving the results away for free.

This is against the LIDB rules and is certain to get you blacklisted. I presume that's why your site keeps going offline.

Verizon, Qwest, AT&T, etc will get their panties in a bunch if you are accessing their LIDB information and caching the results. That's one sure way to be sued out of existence!

CNAM.info stopped working a few days ago and the guy told me it's because someone was caching data and they got caught.
The site has been totally re-designed and there is now no way to get "free Caller ID" lookups.
Check it out. The free stuff was a come-on to get us hooked.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22589140 Sun, 21 Jun 2009 23:45:52 EDT Re: What carrier controls your phone number? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22588336 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22588336 Sun, 21 Jun 2009 19:47:15 EDT Re: What carrier controls your phone number? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22564149 said by topgun98:

- It is not a "bug" that the Caller ID is cached after the first request. However, the data is not cached forever. After a set number of days, the SS7/TCAP query is executed when someone requests it. Please keep in mind that we're spending hundreds of dollars on Caller ID queries, and we're giving the results away for free.
This is against the LIDB rules and is certain to get you blacklisted. I presume that's why your site keeps going offline.

Verizon, Qwest, AT&T, etc will get their panties in a bunch if you are accessing their LIDB information and caching the results. That's one sure way to be sued out of existence!

CNAM.info stopped working a few days ago and the guy told me it's because someone was caching data and they got caught.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22564149 Wed, 17 Jun 2009 07:13:29 EDT Re: What carrier controls your phone number? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22494526 ... many new features, including Full Name and Billing Address.
That I hope is against the LIDB TOS
(If that is where it comes from.)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22494526 Thu, 04 Jun 2009 09:07:23 EDT Re: What carrier controls your phone number? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22494341 I probably would, but I honestly don't remember what it's set at right now.Seems like Current Provider is set at 30 days (on the 31st day it finally refreshed to the correct, new, provider.) CNAM is longer, as it is already over 31 days with the old data still.

It shows the cached result and also gives you the option of re-executing the query.

How does this "option" of re-executing appear? I see none.

BTW when do you expect to release the premium product?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22494341 Thu, 04 Jun 2009 07:56:28 EDT Re: What carrier controls your phone number? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22494280 Are you willing and able to tell us what the set number of days the cache is held?"I probably would, but I honestly don't remember what it's set at right now.

What happens when it (finally) expires? Does it look like it was never checked?

It shows the cached result and also gives you the option of re-executing the query.

Any ballpark idea yet what the paid product will cost?

We have not finalized the prices. I can't make any promises, but I think a substantial discount for the people in this thread could be arranged.

Will it just be a per query charge, a flat monthly fee, or a monthly fee with a per query charge?

Per query, no monthly fee, and no charge if the data isn't available.

I don't want to spill the beans on all of it, but I can tell you that there will be many new features, including Full Name and Billing Address.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22494280 Thu, 04 Jun 2009 07:34:19 EDT Re: What carrier controls your phone number? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22491731 said by topgun98:

- TNID will still be free to use after the commercial product launches.
Any ballpark idea yet what the paid product will cost? Will it just be a per query charge, a flat monthly fee, or a monthly fee with a per query charge?
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It's wierdo, not weirdo. Yes, I know that's not the 'proper' spelling of the similar english language word. ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-carrier-controls-your-phone-number-22491731 Wed, 03 Jun 2009 19:09:22 EDT