[FWD] Free world dialup in VOIP Tech Chat http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r22338683 en Tue, 01 Dec 2009 11:13:10 EDT Tue, 01 Dec 2009 11:13:10 EDT Re: [FWD] Free world dialup http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22411966 anon : Well, some VOIP SIP accounts are still free. Try »calltheworld.us/component/chrono···l_signup for a free SIP account and a free PSTN call. The SIP account is yours to keep. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22411966 Tue, 19 May 2009 14:39:44 EDT Re: [FWD] Free world dialup http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22405123 Toollio : Burgerwars,

Thanks for the tip. I am registered again. It actually might have some usefulness for me still, since I was one of those who frequently called other FWD members with ATAs registered with FWD. I also used it to call my old Sipura 3000 from out of the country so I could link into the POTS network, which I would like to to again.

However, I could also do the same with a free account with Callcentric or a number of other SIP providers.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22405123 Mon, 18 May 2009 09:16:13 EDT Re: [FWD] Free world dialup http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22382557 PX Eliezer :
said by burgerwars See Profile :

Once done you should be connected again, but the service is worthless....
There's a great "Far Side" comic by Gary Larson in which a ship carrying a cargo of mannequins sinks.

As the sharks converge and try to eat the mannequins, one shark says to another, "What is this, some kind of cruel joke?"

(In reference to FWD.....)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22382557 Wed, 13 May 2009 12:07:06 EDT Re: [FWD] Free world dialup http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22382121 burgerwars :
said by Toollio See Profile :

said by kieranmullen See Profile :

I have 3 did's through them for a few years now. They are reliable on a paid basis.
Really? I used FWD for years, and have a a handful of numbers. I paid the $30 fee a few months back. In the past month all of my numbers have stopped registering, as have those of most people in this thread. I wonder why yours continue to work?
Do the following change:
Please update the SIP domain for connecting to FWD from fwd.pulver.com to sip.fwdi.net before March 31, 2009. NAT traversal gets addressed automatically, so there is no longer a need for fwdnat2.pulver.com or stun.fwdnet.net.

Once done you should be connected again, but the service is worthless. No voicemail, none of those numbers to access other VOIP services, toll free, etc. You're just able to dial other FWD users who's adapters are on and are by their phone to answer. You'll probably just get a lot of busy signals when dialing calls that are going nowhere. Incoming SIP does still work (change your domain also for services like IPKALL), but I've stopped using the service.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22382121 Wed, 13 May 2009 10:52:59 EDT Re: [FWD] Free world dialup http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22382065 kieranmullen : I do not know about most. I have an Oregon number and I am located in Oregon. I just performed a test call from Betamax to Gizmo via DID and it worked fine.

I have my GizmoDID in asterisk.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22382065 Wed, 13 May 2009 10:43:44 EDT Re: [FWD] Free world dialup http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22382035 Toollio :
said by kieranmullen See Profile :

I have 3 did's through them for a few years now. They are reliable on a paid basis.
Really? I used FWD for years, and have a a handful of numbers. I paid the $30 fee a few months back. In the past month all of my numbers have stopped registering, as have those of most people in this thread. I wonder why yours continue to work?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22382035 Wed, 13 May 2009 10:39:15 EDT Re: [FWD] Free world dialup http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22381541 stufried : No one likes losing money, but I don't think FWD was a scam. It was just a poorly run operation in the end.

DId you ever have a restaurant that you really liked that you knew was failing, but you went for one last meal? Whether it is to say goodbye to the staff, to preserve a memory, or as one last act of loyalty to small crew of people you knew and liked? That was where I was at the last year of FWD.

FWD got me into VOIP. My best friend lived in London and I lived in the US and we used to yack all the time. At the time, the best rate I could get to the UK was like $0.10 a minute and BT's rate for calling the US was even worse. For the price of two ATAs, two US phones (plus one 230v universal power supply), we could talk till we were blue in the face. We actually felt like it was illegal or something. A year or two later, I got my second ATA from Vonage and ultimately figured out a way to bridge calls between the two units.

I'm now running an Asterisk box and converted my office over to VOIP. I owe Jeff Pulver for that, enjoyed FWD, and wrote the $30 off to one last "meal" at an old memory. If the $30 bucks had given them the chance to pull their operation out of the grave, that would have been a very pleasant surprise.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22381541 Wed, 13 May 2009 08:59:35 EDT Re: [FWD] Free world dialup http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22347907 mazilo :
said by burgerwars See Profile :

I didn't think I had such power, but I do. When burgerwars talks, people listen!
I also read your post! ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22347907 Wed, 06 May 2009 11:10:43 EDT Re: [FWD] Free world dialup http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22347753 kieranmullen : I have 3 did's through them for a few years now. They are reliable on a paid basis.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22347753 Wed, 06 May 2009 10:41:48 EDT Re: [FWD] Free world dialup http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22347721 balaton :
said by PX Eliezer See Profile :

Maybe this would meet your needs:
Setup free accounts ("IP Freedom") with CallCentric (CC).

You could also look at a free account from CallWithUs (CWU).
Thanks. I will check them out. I don't need anything plush, no VM, no HD, no email alerts, etc. But connection to Sipbroker or other local NYC dial-in number is essential. The simplest would be to assign a Vitelity DID to one of the phones, but the problem is that these phone end-points used to call each other also. I wish Vitelity has a free in-network calling without touching POTS.
Regarding myself getting scammed for $30: I am not very angry, this should be the biggest loss I even encounter. I'm usually a pretty cautious fellow, I just didn't expect it from Pulver and Co. Anyway, I am thankful for their service for the past decade, I have to say, it improved my quality of life and it was fun to be on the cutting edge 10 years ago. If they said that hey buddy we are short of cash, give us a few pennies for this service, I would probably have sent a case of beer to their office. I am not going to hang on this. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22347721 Wed, 06 May 2009 10:35:26 EDT Re: [FWD] Free world dialup http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22347433 burgerwars :
said by garys_2k See Profile :

said by burgerwars See Profile :

said by dberninger See Profile :

Folks,

Take a look at Jeff's HD Communication Summit in NYC on May 21, 2009 - »www.hdcomms.com
contact me directly at the email address below.

Regards,

Daniel Berninger
CEO, FWD
Out of curiosity, I looked at the site. I see it's a one day conference and a conference schedule, but the one big thing that is missing is where it is! All I can find is it is in New York City.
LOL! I rechecked the website and I guess they read your post, because the address is now front and center! Never again think that burgerwars See Profile can't make a difference. :)
I didn't think I had such power, but I do. When burgerwars talks, people listen!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22347433 Wed, 06 May 2009 09:47:42 EDT Re: [FWD] Free world dialup http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22346129 mazilo :
said by nitzan See Profile :

said by mazilo See Profile :

said by B See Profile :

Take $30 in September, and declare "end of life" in March. :(
Sounded like a perfect scam to me. :o
Sounds like the future of a certain service you like to put down... lol.
Honestly, I was just responding to remarks by B. It could be any entity who takes the $$$ and then declares end of life in less than a year of service. Nothing more and nothing less.
--
Mazilo always prays for FREEBIES!
US Phone: +1-678-601-0907
UK Phone: +44-703-194-2574
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22346129 Tue, 05 May 2009 23:35:31 EDT Re: [FWD] Free world dialup http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22346079 PX Eliezer : And--

CallCentric offers advanced services for free on the IP Freedom accounts---

Free voicemail, advanced call treatments, more.

------------------------------

The attraction of FWD always escaped me, especially on a paid basis.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22346079 Tue, 05 May 2009 23:24:46 EDT Re: [FWD] Free world dialup http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22346074 nitzan :
said by mazilo See Profile :

said by B See Profile :

Take $30 in September, and declare "end of life" in March. :(
Sounded like a perfect scam to me. :o
Sounds like the future of a certain service you like to put down... lol.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22346074 Tue, 05 May 2009 23:24:08 EDT Re: [FWD] Free world dialup http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22346021 PX Eliezer : Maybe this would meet your needs:

Setup free accounts ("IP Freedom") with CallCentric (CC).

Their "IP Freedom" accounts can call each other (both inbound and outbound) for free either by the 1777xxxxxxx CC number or by direct SIP calling.

And CC has good peering with other networks as well:

»www.callcentric.com/faq/4/130
»www.callcentric.com/faq/4/150

You can get a free US DID number from IPKall and forward it to a CallCentric account. That's a freebie from IPKall and from CC.

If you do request a free DID number from IPKall, it will go MUCH faster if you use the email address from your own ISP instead of one from Yahoo or Hotmail or such.

---------------------------------

EDIT: You could also look at a free account from CallWithUs (CWU). Things are not as plush as with CallCentric, but one thing that's easier: With CallWithUs, you can set up a free main account, and set up several sub-accounts within it. Each subaccount has a 9-digit CWU number, and you could assign one to each phone so they could freely call to each other. And an IPKall DID can be forwarded for free to CWU.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22346021 Tue, 05 May 2009 23:12:23 EDT Re: [FWD] Free world dialup http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22345938 balaton : I am using a few hardware phones. These phones have to be able to call each other without POTS. And one US dial-in number (from sipbroker or somethings else) is needed. Does voxalot would have more future than gizmo5?

I have used FWD for years to communicate with my family in Europe. One of the grandstream phones is with me and is being sent over in a couple of weeks. I have to configure it before it's sent out, because my mom is not into Voip configurations :) ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22345938 Tue, 05 May 2009 22:57:12 EDT Re: [FWD] Free world dialup http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22345857 PX Eliezer : Exactly what services do you need?

Sipphone is now Gizmo5, BTW.

And as mazilo said, their future may be as bright as a snowman in Georgia.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22345857 Tue, 05 May 2009 22:44:51 EDT Re: [FWD] Free world dialup http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22345770 mazilo :
said by balaton See Profile :

]Could you list some of them? Is Sipphone reliable?
I started using SIPPhone almost the same time I started using FWD. Since FWD went to PWD, I completely switched to SIPPhone. The services on SIPPhone are as good as FWD (not PWD). However, it too has been showing its aging factors and perhaps will soon demise itself like FWD did.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22345770 Tue, 05 May 2009 22:28:52 EDT Re: [FWD] Free world dialup http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22345734 mazilo :
said by balaton See Profile :

My issue is that I did pay the $30 and knowing FWD and Jeff, I didn't think that it is a Nigerian scam.
Then, you need to fight FWD with this 419eater (baiting scams with scams). ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22345734 Tue, 05 May 2009 22:21:26 EDT Re: [FWD] Free world dialup http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22345714 garys_2k :
said by burgerwars See Profile :

said by dberninger See Profile :

Folks,

Take a look at Jeff's HD Communication Summit in NYC on May 21, 2009 - »www.hdcomms.com
contact me directly at the email address below.

Regards,

Daniel Berninger
CEO, FWD
Out of curiosity, I looked at the site. I see it's a one day conference and a conference schedule, but the one big thing that is missing is where it is! All I can find is it is in New York City.
LOL! I rechecked the website and I guess they read your post, because the address is now front and center! Never again think that burgerwars See Profile can't make a difference. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22345714 Tue, 05 May 2009 22:17:52 EDT Re: [FWD] Free world dialup http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22345695 balaton :
said by celtic See Profile :

Lots of good options. Move on.
Could you list some of them? Is Sipphone reliable? ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22345695 Tue, 05 May 2009 22:14:38 EDT Re: [FWD] Free world dialup http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22345676 balaton : My issue is that I did pay the $30 and knowing FWD and Jeff, I didn't think that it is a Nigerian scam. Once they switched to the new sip server, all my numbers stopped working. Anyway, I guess I can look for a new provider and I will be happy even if it is not HD voice. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22345676 Tue, 05 May 2009 22:11:01 EDT Re: [FWD] Free world dialup http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22342688 celtic : Is anyone really surprised? I don't think it was a scam but the principals never showed any enthusiasm for the new FWD.

Lots of good options. Move on.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22342688 Tue, 05 May 2009 13:11:53 EDT Re: [FWD] Free world dialup http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22342418 burgerwars :
said by garys_2k See Profile :

Googling, I find this page where it refers to "New World Stages"

Which shows an address of 340 West 50th St, New York, NY 10019

Too much detective work.
Interesting place. Still, I'm not going.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22342418 Tue, 05 May 2009 12:26:52 EDT Re: [FWD] Free world dialup http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22342326 mazilo :
said by B See Profile :

Take $30 in September, and declare "end of life" in March. :(
Sounded like a perfect scam to me. :o]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22342326 Tue, 05 May 2009 12:10:11 EDT Re: [FWD] Free world dialup http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22342063 garys_2k : This page refers to the event as "HDComm 2009"
»www.hdcomms.com/brochure.html

Googling, I find this page where it refers to "New World Stages"
»www.amiando.com/hdcomm.html

Googling that, I find:
»www.newworldstages.com/

Which shows an address of 340 West 50th St, New York, NY 10019

Too much detective work.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22342063 Tue, 05 May 2009 11:23:20 EDT Re: [FWD] Free world dialup http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22341930 burgerwars :
said by dberninger See Profile :

Folks,

Take a look at Jeff's HD Communication Summit in NYC on May 21, 2009 - »www.hdcomms.com
contact me directly at the email address below.

Regards,

Daniel Berninger
CEO, FWD
Out of curiosity, I looked at the site. I see it's a one day conference and a conference schedule, but the one big thing that is missing is where it is! All I can find is it is in New York City. New York City is a big place. The Hotel and Travel tab only says to contact Priceline or JetBlue for travel deals. It's kind of hard to book a convenient hotel if you don't know where convenient is. I guess I could requested a brochure if I was serious about going to figure out where it is. But lacking such basic information on their website makes me think they're about as serious about HD Voice as they were with FWD.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22341930 Tue, 05 May 2009 10:57:14 EDT Re: [FWD] Free world dialup http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22341831 burgerwars : When FreeWorldDialup became $30 PaidWordDialup they advertised your $30 fee would cover as many FWD numbers as you want (your e-mail address was the linking factor). That did look like a decent deal, since if you had a collection of ATAs you didn't have much use for, you can stick them in all the rooms of your house, and your friends houses, and you can all use FWD, its voicemail, its toll-free dialing features, etc., all for $30 a year.

Now that $30 only gets you a dialtone with the ability just to call other FWD users. Who needs that, as you can make ATA to ATA calls without any service. The configuration login page also seems to have vanished. I paid the $30 as it gave another year to think things over. Now the way it is it has no value. No way I'm renewing. But I don't even think they'll be bothering asking for renewals, as they'll let be letting it die.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22341831 Tue, 05 May 2009 10:41:11 EDT Re: [FWD] Free world dialup http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22341783 usa2k : FWD never really acted like an experiment. It was a wave of technology with vision. VoIP to VoIP without touching PSTN; looking out for the FCC not classing FWD and IM as phone service with fees and such. Jeff fostered the creativity of the VoIP landscape.

Jeff was good at promoting his vision on this site, and inspiring people. It was not so much about free, as it was about being pioneers.

Now it feels like FWD has embarked on being R&D hoping the masses will support their efforts, even if they do not relate to their current vision. I do not relate to this.

It seems like it was more necessary to tear down the culture they had than support many paths. If it was not affordable, then close it down and take that new direction. We could have been sad, but remembered the great days as technology pioneers. The vision has faded now, like mass emails, some will send money if you ask enough people, but the way it was handled felt more like a departure than continuation of a visionary plan.

That is my impression. FWD has an image problem, and threads like this should not be unexpected.
--

Jim, VoIP since 12/2002, VOIPo 2/7/2007
FAH-Tool ... Whales ... VOIPo Forum ... VOIPo Review]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22341783 Tue, 05 May 2009 10:31:17 EDT Re: [FWD] Free world dialup http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22341750 B : Nope -- I read the response and was about to post exactly the observations you did. (What about the paying customer who started the thread?) At least they haven't lost their sense of arrogance, superiority, and entitlement, I guess. :(

I don't know this Berninger fellow too well, but I had thought Pulver was better than this kind of behavior. Take $30 in September, and declare "end of life" in March. :(

join:2007-07-24
USA

reply to balaton
Folks,

The main thread seems to be FWD is not what it used to be.

This is quite correct.

How could it be? Jeff Pulver spent $4 million + on the service over the years as a experiment in support of the VON events.

VON events ended. The value of a standard SIP registration as an experiment ended.

The $30 annual service was assembled to support the users that did not want to bother jumping to one of the other free options.

FWD was always advertised as an "experiment" not a free ride in perpetuity.

FWD remains an "experiment" but at this point we are looking at activities in high definition voice.

Take a look at Jeff's HD Communication Summit in NYC on May 21, 2009 - »www.hdcomms.com

A basic standard definition legacy SIP registration service remains up under new SIP domain - sip.fwdi.net

my.FWD, FWD.Communicator, voicemail, service numbers, voicemail all reached end of life in March 2009.

Please send support questions to fwd@pulver.com.

If you are interested in the new HD activities, please contact me directly at the email address below.

Regards,

Dan

..........................................
Daniel Berninger
CEO, FWD
sip HD: 1006@sip.fwdi.net
tel SD: +1.202.250.3838
e: dan@danielberninger.com
w: www.siptosip.net
And the "main thread" here is not that it's "not what it used to be" but rather, that it appears to have run off with the money.
--
In a realm outside causality and function]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22341750 Tue, 05 May 2009 10:24:56 EDT Re: [FWD] Free world dialup http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22341696 PX Eliezer :
said by balaton See Profile :

Even since I actually paid the $30 for a couple of FWD numbers, I have problems making and receiving calls. All the tech documentation disappeared from the website. I used FWD for a very long time and was always able to fix the issues before. Now that it costs money, the whole thing went down the drain. I know that they changed their SIP server, but my reconfigured phones don't work even when they are 'registered'. Are the 612 613 numbers still around? Is there a test number?
said by dberninger See Profile :

The $30 annual service was assembled to support the users that did not want to bother jumping to one of the other free options.

FWD was always advertised as an "experiment" not a free ride in perpetuity.
I am confused.

The original poster says that he DID pay his $ 30 fee. He was NOT asking for a "free ride". Yet he reports that he has ongoing problems with the service that he paid for.

Dan's response seems to ignore this issue and even seems to put everyone down.

----------------------------------

To my colleagues on this forum: Am I right or wrong in my reaction to Dan's response?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22341696 Tue, 05 May 2009 10:11:55 EDT Re: [FWD] Free world dialup http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22341609 dberninger : Folks,

The main thread seems to be FWD is not what it used to be.

This is quite correct.

How could it be? Jeff Pulver spent $4 million + on the service over the years as a experiment in support of the VON events.

VON events ended. The value of a standard SIP registration as an experiment ended.

The $30 annual service was assembled to support the users that did not want to bother jumping to one of the other free options.

FWD was always advertised as an "experiment" not a free ride in perpetuity.

FWD remains an "experiment" but at this point we are looking at activities in high definition voice.

Take a look at Jeff's HD Communication Summit in NYC on May 21, 2009 - »www.hdcomms.com

A basic standard definition legacy SIP registration service remains up under new SIP domain - sip.fwdi.net

my.FWD, FWD.Communicator, voicemail, service numbers, voicemail all reached end of life in March 2009.

Please send support questions to fwd@pulver.com.

If you are interested in the new HD activities, please contact me directly at the email address below.

Regards,

Dan

..........................................
Daniel Berninger
CEO, FWD
sip HD: 1006@sip.fwdi.net
tel SD: +1.202.250.3838
e: dan@danielberninger.com
w: www.siptosip.net]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22341609 Tue, 05 May 2009 09:54:48 EDT Re: [FWD] Free world dialup http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22340970 fortissimo : Hm a bit sad. I think Jeff is a good person (may be I'm biased as he is a ham radio operator also). We did exchange some emails some (long?) time ago and he was looking for fresh ideas to go (regarding FWD and VOIP), and I wrote him what I thought (as limited in industry experience since I never worked professionally in this area).

Now w/ the news coming out that RIM and Cisco joining to push Unified Comm., I wasn't far off telling him to look "hard" into adapting mobile side of things (aka cellphones or like devices).

Our convo didn't include FWD specifically though, and I had no privy info from him either.

I think it was a bad move for FWD trying to ask for subsciption money. It was just not the right timing, as service was dropping, not increasing; and it was hardly an incentive to ask for payment. They could look at an advertising support model, or something else, I don't know.

FWD has been around and free (as in beer), and free stuff has its own attraction. Changing to a paid model, is not easy, as paid model, requires its own incentive, which FWD lacks.

I didn't pay FWD a penny at all, but I do want to give them moral support if I could.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22340970 Tue, 05 May 2009 04:53:34 EDT Re: [FWD] Free world dialup http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22340948 andre2 :
said by PX Eliezer See Profile :

So, what do folks think?

Is this a case of "We got the cash, so now let's dash?"
I created a free account back in December (no longer accessible). From the FWD forums (also no longer accessible) in the following months, there was no evidence that paid accounts had better service. People with paid accounts were unable to access them when I could. IMO there was never any intention of continuing service to anyone.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22340948 Tue, 05 May 2009 04:27:38 EDT Re: [FWD] Free world dialup http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22340904 kieranmullen : Meh? Dash with their thousands hundreds tens of dollars ?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22340904 Tue, 05 May 2009 03:46:54 EDT Re: [FWD] Free world dialup http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22340270 mazilo : As PX Eliezer described about Teleblend Forum here, I believe the saying goes also WELL to FWD as a whole (let alone FWDOut is completely out a.k.a DEAD). :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22340270 Mon, 04 May 2009 23:21:57 EDT Re: [FWD] Free world dialup http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22340207 usa2k :
said by balaton See Profile :

I remember you from the early Vonage years :)
As I recall you! :)

Yes, still here, the landscape keep changing, and the services keep growing.
I keep up with many forums on DSLR.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22340207 Mon, 04 May 2009 23:03:29 EDT Re: [FWD] Free world dialup http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22340086 balaton : usa2k, nice to see you after all these years in this forum. I haven't visited here regularly for many years. I remember you from the early Vonage years :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22340086 Mon, 04 May 2009 22:37:55 EDT Re: [FWD] Free world dialup http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22340075 balaton : If Jeff said that well donate $30 for the past 8 year of service, I would have gladly done it, but that's not what was asked. I hoped that I am paying for continuing service. Anyone using Sipphone or something similar? Which one is working well?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22340075 Mon, 04 May 2009 22:35:22 EDT Re: [FWD] Free world dialup http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22340062 B : Wow, so it really is a dead service now. :(

Remember after the pay program was announced, when we were watching that active connections counter waiting for it to drop to the floor?

»[Poll]What are your plans for FWD's pay to play?

So this is how tech pioneers die - with indifference. :(

-- B
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In a realm outside causality and function]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22340062 Mon, 04 May 2009 22:31:01 EDT Re: [FWD] Free world dialup http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22340009 usa2k : sip:613@fwd.pulver.com stays dead silent.
sip:613@sip.fwdi.net gets a busy tone

EDIT: Well, I've lost interest ... :hmm:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22340009 Mon, 04 May 2009 22:21:43 EDT Re: [FWD] Free world dialup http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22339991 Test99 : Dialing 613@sip.fwdi.net also resulted in an incoming call. I am not an FWD subscriber.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22339991 Mon, 04 May 2009 22:17:06 EDT Re: [FWD] Free world dialup http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22339976 Test99 : I just tried calling 613@fwd.pulver.com. Immediately there was a call back on the same phone (which accepts URI-dialed calls). Talking to myself on one phone was difficult. I conferenced the two calls together and got cascading echoes.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22339976 Mon, 04 May 2009 22:13:05 EDT Re: [FWD] Free world dialup http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22339970 balaton : Hello usa2k,
the sip server is: sip.fwdi.net
Try that, maybe you have more luck than I do. Did you have to change your config at the end of March?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22339970 Mon, 04 May 2009 22:11:57 EDT Re: [FWD] Free world dialup http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22339966 PX Eliezer : Have you looked at their websites:

»www.freeworlddialup.com/learnmor···features
says
We are experiencing technical difficulties right now.

»www.freeworlddialup.com/
converts to
»www.siptosip.net/
which says
Free World Dialup closed open enrollment for SIP registration and membership in order to focus on High Definition (HD) VoIP content and services. People interested in obtaining SIP credentials for participatition in FWD's HD End User Trial should send an email to fwd@pulver.com.

»www.freeworlddialup.com/help/
says
We are experiencing technical difficulties right now.

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So, what do folks think?

Is this a case of "We got the cash, so now let's dash?"]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22339966 Mon, 04 May 2009 22:11:02 EDT Re: [FWD] Free world dialup http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22339841 usa2k : 612/613 look dead for my SIP calls from VOIPo :hmm:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22339841 Mon, 04 May 2009 21:41:46 EDT [FWD] Free world dialup http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22338683 balaton : Even since I actually paid the $30 for a couple of FWD numbers, I have problems making and receiving calls. All the tech documentation disappeared from the website. I used FWD for a very long time and was always able to fix the issues before. Now that it costs money, the whole thing went down the drain. I know that they changed their SIP server, but my reconfigured phones don't work even when they are 'registered'. Are the 612 613 numbers still around? Is there a test number? ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22338683 Mon, 04 May 2009 17:36:13 EDT