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Re: Funny Stuff said by pnh102:Governments all over this country are whining about a supposed lack of money which would require "massive cuts in vital services, like schools, police, fire fighters, etc." but there always seems to be money for things that are not so vital, like municipal broadband. I hope this bill comes back with a vengeance and is extended to every possible instance in which government can compete with private business. What a great idea. Maybe the money "saved" by not providing this service should be rather used in some anti trust lawsuits against the cable and telco monopolies that REFUSED to service the area to start with.
Sometimes the shilling posted on these forums is unbelievable.
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Why don't private citizens who want this gather some like-minded investors and deploy this service on their own?
said by sturmvogel:Sometimes the shilling posted on these forums is unbelievable. The level of generosity with other peoples' money posted on these forums never ceases to amaze me.
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| said by pnh102:Why don't private citizens who want this gather some like-minded investors and deploy this service on their own? Because that requires organization and time. Private citizens usually are occupied with day to day activities like WORK to make money to pay taxes and provide for their families.
So then companies that have dedicated staff do take advantage and PLAN activities that will be detrimental to those said citizens and that is why we have GOVERNMENT to watch out on behalf of those citizens.
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Mount Airy, MD | said by sturmvogel:Because that requires organization and time. Private citizens usually are occupied with day to day activities like WORK to make money to pay taxes and provide for their families. No kidding? Who knew that anything worth doing would be, you know, hard and stuff.
Just about every other private business out there had rocky and difficult starts.
said by sturmvogel:So then companies that have dedicated staff do take advantage and PLAN activities that will be detrimental to those said citizens and that is why we have GOVERNMENT to watch out on behalf of those citizens. Perhaps if government actually did what you claim, it would be a little more judicious about spending money, especially when there are claims (many of which I personally don't believe) that tax revenue is "down."
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| said by pnh102:said by sturmvogel:Because that requires organization and time. Private citizens usually are occupied with day to day activities like WORK to make money to pay taxes and provide for their families. No kidding? Who knew that anything worth doing would be, you know, hard and stuff. Just about every other private business out there had rocky and difficult starts. said by sturmvogel:So then companies that have dedicated staff do take advantage and PLAN activities that will be detrimental to those said citizens and that is why we have GOVERNMENT to watch out on behalf of those citizens. Perhaps if government actually did what you claim, it would be a little more judicious about spending money, especially when there are claims (many of which I personally don't believe) that tax revenue is "down." The only way to fight corporatism is either by a socialist revolution or by anti trust action by the government. Socialist revolution is not what I would consider a good choice.
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said by pnh102:Why don't private citizens who want this gather some like-minded investors and deploy this service on their own? Why don't you buy enough property to protect yourself from your neighbors' choices to dispose of their own property? Instead of relying upon zoning laws (public law limiting how individuals dispose of their private property) for you?
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Mount Airy, MD | reply to sturmvogel
said by sturmvogel:The only way to fight corporatism is either by a socialist revolution or by anti trust action by the government. Socialist revolution is not what I would consider a good choice. That is silly. At least with most private ventures, people still have the choice to not participate if they feel they are not getting a good value for the money.
If I don't like how my government does things, I can't withhold a tax payment on the condition that it changes how it does business.
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Mount Airy, MD | reply to amigo_boy
said by amigo_boy:Why don't you buy enough property to protect yourself from your neighbors' choices to dispose of their own property? Instead of relying upon zoning laws (public law limiting how individuals dispose of their private property) for you? If this analogy really applied, you would be asking me to force my neighbors to give me the money I'd need to buy said property.
What you describe is indeed plausible. I could, theoretically, find money to buy out my neighbors if I so chose to do so, within the context of existing law and government. Of course the difference is that I would have to have the consent of all parties involved.
The government on the other hand could do the same thing without the input of the people.
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| said by pnh102:If this analogy really applied, you would be asking me to force my neighbors to give me the money I'd need to buy said property. No, I'd just ask to oppose zoning laws and building codes which are an example of groups of people pooling their political will together to impact the property interests of others (instead of pooling their money together to do what a "free market" requires: buying sufficient property to protect themselves from how their neighbors choose to dispose of their own private property.).
Same principle.
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said by pnh102:said by sturmvogel:The only way to fight corporatism is either by a socialist revolution or by anti trust action by the government. Socialist revolution is not what I would consider a good choice. That is silly. At least with most private ventures, people still have the choice to not participate if they feel they are not getting a good value for the money. If I don't like how my government does things, I can't withhold a tax payment on the condition that it changes how it does business. Of course you can. You can move where there are no roads, mail, fire fighting service nor hospitals and probably very little taxes.
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Mount Airy, MD | said by sturmvogel:Of course you can. You can move where there are no roads, mail, fire fighting service nor hospitals and probably very little taxes. I could, except that people like you follow me. Such people constantly whine about the high taxes where they live, so they move to places with low taxes. Of course, they then complain about the lack of government services so they then vote for people who will provide such services and end up raising taxes.
Lather, rinse, repeat.
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Uh, yes.
In order for your example to work, you will have to eliminate my free market option to buy out my neighbors if I was able to, and if they all consented.
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