http://www.dslreports.com/forum/We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-22349614 en Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:04:50 EDT Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:04:50 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-24800148 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-24800148 Tue, 14 Sep 2010 23:55:03 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-24748242 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-24748242 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 18:04:01 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-24729504
U-Verse service was attractive when they just started service up and had "Reasonable" prices on TV and internet. It was cheaper than cable before, but now since raising prices I can't really justify paying the cost (which is the same as cable basically) for it. I'll probably just dump TV, keep internet (hoping they fix it sometime), and watch TV from online free sites. I don't watch most of the channels anyways and it is really silly to pay for all of it when I watch maybe 10 channels that are free online anyways from their own website.

And AT&T wonders WHY their subscribership has declined so much this year.? DUH!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-24729504 Sun, 29 Aug 2010 23:20:58 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-24448187 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-24448187 Mon, 28 Jun 2010 13:48:44 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-24446368 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-24446368 Mon, 28 Jun 2010 01:48:21 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-24174621
I blame the newest firmware for this problem. Hard coding the DNS numbers don't help, and ATT has no idea what I'm talking about. Help would be greatly appreciated!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-24174621 Fri, 30 Apr 2010 13:35:05 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-24111028 I have already tried resetting the RG, power cycling it.etc... The problem is still there. This is also my second RG.

My promotion is over next week. We will see what happens..

Anybody have any oterh ideas on what to try?

-Tom]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-24111028 Fri, 16 Apr 2010 21:19:02 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-24110863
I know it works great for my linksys at the house. Ironically I found out if you run DD-WRT on a linksys they tell you to default it and set it back up after every upgrade.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-24110863 Fri, 16 Apr 2010 20:24:56 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-24110844 said by mixbus :

Hi, My slow web page problem returned after the RG software was upgraded.Same here. Uverse was great when I first got it (back in Sep 09), but the past couple months it's been slow and crappy, mainly (only?) using the web.

I patiently waited for the new miracle firmware, but even though it upgraded a couple weeks ago, the slow problems are still here.

Not a happy uverse customer. :mad:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-24110844 Fri, 16 Apr 2010 20:19:17 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-24065904
I hard coded the DNS numbers which helped until the RG upgrade.

I have tried to contact tier 2 support, but they aren't understanding the problem, and say try a different browser! UGH! I have just about had it. I have ben dealing with this problem for 5+ months. I have been treated lately like I am crazy! At least by the person I am dealing with. g05126@att.com

Why would it work OK with the DNS workaround & not after the RG upgrade??

Somebody HELP before I have to go back to COMCAST!!! :mad:

Anybody???
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mixbus@sbcglobal.net]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-24065904 Wed, 07 Apr 2010 12:25:56 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-23862416 said by goofball1234 :

Whether it is a DDOS avoidance, a QOS management or a memory allocation issue - I guess is up to 2wire. But the end effect is that some hosts (typically BSD or Linux based - which includes Macs as BSD) do not self limit their requests as much as historic Windows OS's have done. I am quite skeptical of that analysis. The only times I have seen similar problems, it has been with Windows computers. I have had DNS problems with an Efficient Speestream 5861, with a Westell 2200, with a Westell 327w, and with a Belkin wired router. For details, see »Re: [connectivity] Westell 2200 Problem? (UDP)

I am using another router behind the 2Wire RG, as a way of making sure that I don't see the same problem with it. But, to repeat, in my experience it has always been a Windows box that has triggered DNS problems with routers.

Note that I am not saying that other systems cannot have problems. I expect that if they made enough DNS requests over a sufficiently short time period, they too would be affected.
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Whether it is a DDOS avoidance, a QOS management or a memory allocation issue - I guess is up to 2wire. But the end effect is that some hosts (typically BSD or Linux based - which includes Macs as BSD) do not self limit their requests as much as historic Windows OS's have done.

I apologize that I have not read every entry in this now 8+ page thread, but my understanding of the issue boils down to this as it relates to the 2wire modems... Windows OSs have traditionally limited the number of simultaneous TCP / UDP requests that they would run (some might say to reduce the possibility of DOS attacks) where as my understanding is that Macs (BSD) and other BSD/Linux machines do not limit simultaneous requests quite so much. Either their limit is higher or there is no limit. And basically, the 2 wire starts choking and coughing if one host starts spraying too many simultaneous requests at the same time.

I believe this issue effects certain services worse than others. aka, if a host is forwarding all DNS requests to the gateway for proxy/forwarding, there might be trouble. If on the otherhand, a host is directly sending its DNS (UDP) requests to a DNS server outside ... the 2wire merely forwards the connections as usual - and there are no problems.

So, the work around many people have found that works is hard coding DNS servers in their hosts - allows the 2wire gateway not to be trying to proxy so many simulataneous connections through its DNS proxy / forwarding mechanism.

I would assume this is a software issue in the 2wire modem where they dont' allocate enough memory or artificially constricted the number of simultaneous requests that could eb supported per requesting host on the network. Not sure if it is an accidental or an intentional restriction, but it seems to affect Macs more heavily than Windows machines.

I hope this helps the conversaion.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-23858305 Thu, 25 Feb 2010 00:32:10 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-23853016 I do not have access to a Uverse setup to know if this setting is an option or not.Yes, "Strict UDP Session Control" is an available option on the RG. It's not obvious to me why that would help, but it shouldn't hurt to try it. Note that I am not having the problems being discussed.
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The 2wire 2701 adsl modem has an issue with large amounts of UDP packets, it will slow down at first then reboot if you continue to increase the number of UDP packets being sent to the modem. Online games like World of Warcraft, etc... that send large numbers of UDP packets have made these modems slow and down and reboot at random times. 2 wire is aware of customers having issues with these games as they have posted a suggestion for fixing it.

The DNS packets also contain UDP structure (UDP check sum, header, etc...) and might be having issues caused by the same problem.

»support.2wire.com/?page=view&art···t=&sort=

I do not have access to a Uverse setup to know if this setting is an option or not. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-23852936 Wed, 24 Feb 2010 08:08:44 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-23843411 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-23843411 Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:37:21 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-23841382 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-23841382 Mon, 22 Feb 2010 08:53:33 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-23838608 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-23838608 Sun, 21 Feb 2010 16:07:37 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-23833207
Josh
Technician]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-23833207 Sat, 20 Feb 2010 10:52:52 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-23815647 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-23815647 Wed, 17 Feb 2010 07:50:06 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-23811910
In regards to the "issues" with U-verse and speeds at my house...I have ALL the same issues people are complaining about here. I've had over 17 service calls trying to "fix" this issue. I am supposed to get 18 kbps and actually it just clocked at 16.9!! Not bad but as we all know not consistent.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-23811910 Tue, 16 Feb 2010 14:20:08 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-23643137 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-23643137 Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:12:02 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-23643131 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-23643131 Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:11:01 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-23643048 said by fhmoore:

How do you know when you receive the update?
Your current software will change from 5.x to 6.x and the web administration GUI will look completely different.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-23643048 Thu, 14 Jan 2010 13:58:03 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-23639572 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-23639572 Wed, 13 Jan 2010 21:41:13 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-23639408 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-23639408 Wed, 13 Jan 2010 21:12:16 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-23636427
I have called tech support numerous times about this. They always say everything checks out OK... Of course it isn't. I am hoping a fix comes soon, or I just might go back to DSL that was OK for me. I thought this would be better. Boy was I wrong...

- Tom]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-23636427 Wed, 13 Jan 2010 13:08:35 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-23622167 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-23622167 Sun, 10 Jan 2010 23:06:42 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-23605940 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-23605940 Thu, 07 Jan 2010 15:37:52 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-23601746 Current Software: 5.29.135.47]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-23601746 Wed, 06 Jan 2010 20:43:09 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-23581411 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-23581411 Sun, 03 Jan 2010 08:56:50 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-23577263 said by David:

ummm the fix is for uverse and it should be rolling out to people now. For ADSL I am not sure exactly what the problem might be. Do you maybe have a 3rd party router involved?

The fix rolled out december 9th, and depending on nightly updating it might be a month to a month and 1/2 before it hits everyone. Anyone ordering new service might get hit right away or near the tail end.
I just got U-Verse just a few days ago and I do not not see this DNS issue. I am also on the old 5.29 software for the RG. No issues so far. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-23577263 Sat, 02 Jan 2010 02:23:20 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-23566421
The fix rolled out december 9th, and depending on nightly updating it might be a month to a month and 1/2 before it hits everyone. Anyone ordering new service might get hit right away or near the tail end. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-23566421 Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:07:25 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-23566033
I've been reading posts from over 5 years ago documenting the problem. Yeah, all you have to do to "fix it" is to go into every mac on your network and change the DNS servers. That shouldn't be too hard for Grandma on her new Christmas Mac (hey, you told me these things were easy to use!)

Come on AT&T, let's fix this or make sure when someone orders u-verse (and they're using a mac) know they can expect near dial up page loading unless they want to read a couple of hundred posts to figure out how to fix the problem themselves. I know, it's really 2wire's fault. Who cares? Get it fixed, this is ridiculous. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-We-got-some-news-Slow-Web-Page-Loading-23566033 Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:47:09 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-new-news-23504245 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-new-news-23504245 Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:25:54 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-new-news-23484105 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-new-news-23484105 Sun, 13 Dec 2009 20:18:47 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-new-news-23484086 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-new-news-23484086 Sun, 13 Dec 2009 20:13:36 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-new-news-23483954
How can we get this update.

My 2Wire currently says

Model: 3800HGV-B Gateway
Hardware Version: 2700-100531-006
Software Version: 5.29.105.94]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-new-news-23483954 Sun, 13 Dec 2009 19:41:12 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-new-news-23481314
Not that I have ever seen the iNID interface ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-new-news-23481314 Sun, 13 Dec 2009 02:04:07 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-new-news-23480901 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-new-news-23480901 Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:57:08 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-new-news-23480748 said by gdm:

Interesting. Care post a few screen shots?

Home Page

System Info

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-new-news-23480748 Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:02:12 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-new-news-23480344 said by MyDogHsFleas:

OK I'll bite.... what's CMS?

I was assuming it'd be a new level of RG software that's pushed out. In fact I just got a new level overnight: 6.1.9.23. It's got a whole different look to its web pages.
2-Wire uses Component Management System (CMS)
to allow for specific Service Provider enhanced services activation via 2Wire CMS

Dave]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-new-news-23480344 Sat, 12 Dec 2009 19:41:51 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-new-news-23480015 said by David:

Sorry should have reported sooner. In the near future (if it hasn't been done already) this problem should be coming to an end. Supposedly the fix is to be started to implement dec. 9th.

Sorry I forgot to post :(
Think it might have occurred on the VDSL2 download as I switched back to the RG for DNS a couple days ago to check whether an RG link would work this way and decided not to hard code again until problems arise and they have not. :D

Chris
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AT&T Uverse; Zyxel NBG334W router (behind the 2wire gateway); openSuSE 11.0; firefox 3.0.15]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-new-news-23479925 Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:38:37 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-new-news-23479905
I was assuming it'd be a new level of RG software that's pushed out. In fact I just got a new level overnight: 6.1.9.23. It's got a whole different look to its web pages. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-new-news-23479905 Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:32:08 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-new-news-23479715
keep in mind SWAG in effect. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-new-news-23479715 Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:34:19 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-new-news-23478671 said by David:

Sorry should have reported sooner. In the near future (if it hasn't been done already) this problem should be coming to an end. Supposedly the fix is to be started to implement dec. 9th.
What vehicle will be used to deliver this fix? A specific software level?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-new-news-23478671 Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:32:23 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-new-news-23478152 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-new-news-23478152 Sat, 12 Dec 2009 08:01:48 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/new-news-23476495
Sorry I forgot to post :(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/new-news-23476495 Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:53:49 EDT