bgraham
join:2001-03-15
Smithtown, NY | Is Voip a Going Concern at Present Prices
With ATT and Verizon pulling the plug on plain VOIP, plus a few independent providers going bust, is VOIP a survivable product?
I hope so because I have it. |
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Eat Me
join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
 ·PenTeleData
 ·Future Nine Corpor..
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·Vonage
| said by bgraham  :With ATT and Verizon pulling the plug on plain VOIP, plus a few independent providers going bust, is VOIP a survivable product? I hope so because I have it. I'm wondering that too. A lot of people who do voip are doing it bundled with cable internet service. They're even willing to pay the cable company more money than what it would cost with a voip provider. |
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morbo
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clubs: | a lot of people are dumb. |
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Eat Me
join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
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| said by morbo :a lot of people are dumb. I would say a lot of people simply don't know.
When they call the cable company to install cable, the cable company then has the opportunity to market phone service to them. Vonage doesn't have that. |
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ropeguru
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join:2001-01-25
Bridgeport, WV
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Cable telephone is not the same as VoIP. It uses a different technology and does not use the same ports nor does it use the same channels on the cable. |
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kaila
join:2000-10-11
Lincolnshire, IL
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Voip is booming, and not just cable voip. Asterisk and it's derivatives are growing fast in the SMB space at the expense of Nortel, Cisco, Avaya, with many SIP friendly voip companies providing originstion and termination services.
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Eat Me
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Sussex, NJ
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1 edit | reply to ropeguru
said by ropeguru :Cable telephone is not the same as VoIP. It uses a different technology and does not use the same ports nor does it use the same channels on the cable. Cable phone is VoIP, just over a separate network, not the public internet and 100% managed by them end to end. |
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morbo
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1 edit | reply to Eat Me
a lot of people only remember the horror of dealing with telco. the cableco price, while more expensive than most voip options, is less expensive than comparable telco unlimited plans. so people hate telco and want to save. they do'nt realize or are scared of other options. so i change my response: part ignorance, part dumb. |
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wifi4milez
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join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
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said by Eat Me :said by ropeguru :Cable telephone is not the same as VoIP. It uses a different technology and does not use the same ports nor does it use the same channels on the cable. Cable phone is VoIP, just over a separate network, not the public internet and 100% managed by them end to end. Yes and no. It functions as VoIP does, however it never leaves the provisioning cable providers network (as you mention). As such I dont think it can be called VoIP, as its more like voice over LAN in that regard.
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dentman42
join:2001-10-02
Columbus, OH
·AT&T Midwest
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said by Eat Me :said by bgraham :With ATT and Verizon pulling the plug on plain VOIP, plus a few independent providers going bust, is VOIP a survivable product? I hope so because I have it. I'm wondering that too. A lot of people who do voip are doing it bundled with cable internet service. They're even willing to pay the cable company more money than what it would cost with a voip provider. In my area, Insight is a utility phone provider - they have full backup for the network in a power outage and they don't use combo phone/Internet modems - the phone device is a separate box on the back of the house (found that out when my dad got sick of the billing monster and switched his phone and net to the cableco).
In that case, paying a little extra means you're not reliant on your utility power and your Internet connection to have phone service with VOIP. |
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nitzan
Premium,VIP
join:2008-02-27
·ViaTalk
·Comcast
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said by bgraham :With ATT and Verizon pulling the plug on plain VOIP, plus a few independent providers going bust, is VOIP a survivable product? Small VoIP providers are doing very well these days. It's the I-want-to-be-a-phone-company guys that are failing. The key is expectations - if you need millions of users to be profitable then you stand no chance in hell. If however you need a few thousand users to be profitable - that's not too hard to do on a budget. |
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SolarPup
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Here's the issue with that though.. I would go through my cable provider for phone service but they would not port my number because it's from another city (about 10 mins away). I'm using Vonage because they are the only ones that would port my number in. Comcast will only port numbers in their "rate center". |
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morbo
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clubs: | i have a question: why would you prefer to go through your cable provider for phone service if they could port your number? considering it's not price, why would you prefer them? |
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SolarPup
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clubs: | It's all in one bill.. that's the BIGGEST reason.. then I dont have a bill for voice here, data there, video there.. |
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morbo
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clubs: | just to confirm: to you, a combined bill is worth $5-$10 extra a month? |
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Mike992
@comcast.net
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The cable company has to follow the same guidelines as a telco. If you tried to take that number from Vonage and say go back to ATT you wouldn't be able to do it. With Vonage you can take your hookup to any broadband connection and use that number. |
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shashinka
join:2000-09-16
West Boylston, MA
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Funny, its still over IP! I like Callcentric. Especially since I only pay $2 a month to connect my whole house for 911 in case the kids need it. We use it for telemarketers and calling Japan (2.5 cents a min, vonage is 6 cents). That's about it. Otherwise I have 1000 min with AT&T wireless on our family plan.
»www.callcentric.com/?aid=82473 |
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