TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet in TekSavvy

TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet in TekSavvy http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r22353464 en Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:33:29 EDT Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:33:29 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23216049 neko :

said by cognizantt

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...I just setup this free binaries server:

public.teranews.com...

Noticed tonight that I started receiving bad data from that server; every file was corrupt/incomplete.

Anyone else have this problem? It was working fine before.
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said by infamouskid

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hey guys i formated my comp today. can someone post the ipv6 usenet provider settings again.

i dont need the info on the tunneling part. just the server addresses and username and passes and ports.

thanks.

»filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-newsgr···s-332959

Should find everything you need there.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23209062 Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:55:23 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23208781 infamouskid : hey guys i formated my comp today. can someone post the ipv6 usenet provider settings again.

i dont need the info on the tunneling part. just the server addresses and username and passes and ports.

thanks.
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said by cognizantt

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el quintron

it's not an ipv6 newsgroup.

it offers binaries along with text.

cog.

is there a download limit for binaries on that site^?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23189710 Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:52:23 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23181116 l0thar :

said by El Quintron

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That's awsome, quick question though, is it an ipv6 newsgroup?

This thread has mostly morphed into free binairies via ipv6...

Teranews is a no brainer setup - add server, no username or password needed. Done, Connect. :)

Was getting 150 KB/s from it on a test last night, not bad for the easy of trying it out.

Recommended for anyone new and curious about usenet. Serious enough, want more speeds? The IPv6 free test servers are still rocking. A bit more time setting it up, but more speed and server choices. ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23181116 Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:11:16 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23180510 cognizantt : el quintron

it's not an ipv6 newsgroup.

it offers binaries along with text.

cog.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23180510 Wed, 14 Oct 2009 02:22:33 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23180028 l0thar :

said by El Quintron

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You may want to send an IM to l0thar and see if its up. They may have gone "pay" as it was quite reliable, and they could charge something for it.

Eweka has been up, a bit slow sometimes but has great retention. Completed a series posted 385 days ago from them.

XSnews had been stable and fast, consistent for months on end for me. Lately, they have been on/off, off for some days, back again.

Newszilla is an ISP internal newserver, so it has smaller storage and only holds files for a short time. Their speeed has gone up from the old 3x50KB/s, but a lot of things are not there.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23180028 Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:29:32 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23175714 El Quintron : That's awsome, quick question though, is it an ipv6 newsgroup?

This thread has mostly morphed into free binairies via ipv6...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23175714 Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:28:19 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23174781 cognizantt : i'm not going thru 16 pages to find out if it's been posted or not -

I just setup this free binaries server:

public.teranews.com

and I have TSI's free news. between the 2 there are ~107,000 groups. other ppl have mentioned 2mb max off TSI, and I can get at least the same off teranews.

teranews allows 3 connections, no username/password.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23174781 Tue, 13 Oct 2009 04:21:30 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23174723 decx :

said by gamer515

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i see there are sites like astraweb offering newsgroup service for say $10/month, and i think TSI also offers usenet for $4/month along with mlppp. so why do people subscribe to other usenet/newsgroup services? are they faster or carry more content? what client/program do i use to download?

Same content, but faster, more concurrent connections, often with encrypted connections. Also paid providers have much longer retention, so content are available much longer on many paid providers than on Teksavvy's service.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23174723 Tue, 13 Oct 2009 03:29:27 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23174613 gamer515 : ive been using bt and file sharing sites, so i know nothing about usenet/newsgroup stuff

i see there are sites like astraweb offering newsgroup service for say $10/month, and i think TSI also offers usenet for $4/month along with mlppp. so why do people subscribe to other usenet/newsgroup services? are they faster or carry more content? what client/program do i use to download?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23174613 Tue, 13 Oct 2009 02:23:30 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23143728 markj : xnews is back up...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23143728 Wed, 07 Oct 2009 00:59:35 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23143353 anynomous : xsnews hasn't been working for me for several days now,
eweka works very well
newszilla6 works but only on recent file, i think their server has low retention, maybe 20/30 days i don't know]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23143353 Tue, 06 Oct 2009 23:08:26 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23142772 ric11 : I have been able to get newzilla to work for me. It is about half the speed I can get with xnews because of the limit on connections. eweka I am still having very little luck.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23142772 Tue, 06 Oct 2009 21:14:33 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23134574 El Quintron : When it was on it I used Newszilla almost exclusively.

I never got xnews working but I did have intermittent success with Eweka...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23134574 Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:06:39 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23134488 markj : its been a bit up and down lately but still works great for me overall

newzilla seems to be the most reliable...xnews used to be but now is down a lot]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23134488 Mon, 05 Oct 2009 12:53:51 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23130795 olebiker :

said by El Quintron

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I really like the idea of free binairies to leech off of, but there's a reason why in the end I chose a pay usenet server.

Cause there's someone I can yell at if something goes wrong.

:)

You and I both feel pretty much the same about it. I have astraweb at 11.00 per month. Great service.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23130795 Sun, 04 Oct 2009 17:05:34 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23130560 El Quintron : You may want to send an IM to l0thar and see if its up. They may have gone "pay" as it was quite reliable, and they could charge something for it.

Sorry to hear it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23130560 Sun, 04 Oct 2009 16:02:53 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23126830 ric11 : So I humoured you and me and I tried "green" and "green" and it didn't work. I then went back to no password and it seemed to keep downloading for a little longer than the usual 2 minutes but then eventually stopped. xsnews was up for a little while which was working well again. I just like to fiddle with the freebies but it does get frustrating some times.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23126830 Sat, 03 Oct 2009 17:03:17 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23119644 El Quintron : I really like the idea of free binairies to leech off of, but there's a reason why in the end I chose a pay usenet server.

Cause there's someone I can yell at if something goes wrong.

:)
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said by ddasilva99

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FYI, reader.ipv6.xsnews.nl is down

It was down for a couple of days, I switched to Eweka instead.

Easy way to see if the server is down is the IPv6 traffic graph at their site : »www.xsnews.com/ipv6/traffic.php

It's been back online since last night. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23086837 Sat, 26 Sep 2009 13:17:33 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23084754 ddasilva99 : FYI, reader.ipv6.xsnews.nl is down]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23084754 Fri, 25 Sep 2009 21:43:33 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22991799 l0thar : Yes, that is a great plus as well!

Besides he traffic being encrypted, you are not out in the open, like when running a torrent, where anyone can see your IP.

SSL - just tried and I don't think I can get an SSL connection to XSnews.nl, bummer. :(

Got to love those linux distros, eh, I am a huge fan of British linux distros - most ~~programs~~ packages put out by the British Linux Corporation are excellent. :o ;)

BLC channel 4 is my fave.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22991799 Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:18:20 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22990185 El Quintron : Good stuff, I would have to agree as well.

Also Usenet providers, paid or otherwise, often provide SSL which means nobody has to know which linux distros you're downloading from Usenet :p
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One thing we should point out to other dsl users is how Usenet can be helpful in the event that UBB is indeed imposed on us all.

Compared to torrents, Usenet downloads can save you a lot of bandwidth. With UBB restricting people to 2 GB a day total (or 60 GB a month for everyone in the house), every Byte is going to count, so to speak. ;)

Torrents - you download a Linux distro. If the file size is 700 MB, you need at least : 700 MB for downloading it, plus 700 MB seeding back as a decent human being and to keep it alive for others. (1:1 seeding ratio is the minimum decent option)

So, the total comes to 2x file size, or 1.4 GB via torrent.

Via Usenet post, you get the file encoded, a bit larger than 700 MB; there are ACK packets to let the server know you got each piece ok. Sometimes you might need a few par blocks to fix errors or missing pieces.

Assuming about 10% for acks and error correction, your total would be about 770 MB.

No seeding is needed for Usenet users, which is the real Byte saver in this case!

Add these saved Bytes over a month and it can be a major difference. ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22985962 Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:13:50 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22886462 anon : use graboid as a usenet clint its free and limited to 4gb pr free account and aftr an account is used make a new one ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22886462 Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:18:23 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22882873 anon : I have tried most everything after Gateway6 is shutdown and/or the Windows computer reboots. Never once has Gateway6 worked again short of removing & reinstalling. At first I thought it might be a firewall issue, but that was not the cause. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22882873 Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:48:59 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22882819 l0thar :

said by El Quintron

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If you're on windows you may want to reboot your gateway6.

In a windows machine, that can be easily done via the Services control panel applet.

Shortcut to it - Start -- Run -- 'services.msc', then look for Hexago Gateway6 client, click on it and select 'restart' from the menu at the left side.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22882819 Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:27:14 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22882770 El Quintron : If you're on windows you may want to reboot your gateway6

if you're on ubuntu open up a terminal and do:

sudo /etc/init.d/tspc restart

I only download on Ubuntu or OS X, but if everyone else is up then you need to reboot the tunneling app/tunnel.
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said by ric11

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Is anyone having luck this weekend with gateway6 and sabnzbd+? I seem to be logging in okay to gateway6 but I can't connect to any of xsnews, eweka or newszilla. I was able to connect and download okay Thursday night but I haven't been able to connect Friday, Saturday or today. I am wondering if it is just me because I see noone else complaining. Thanks.

I cannot comment about Gateway6 or your setup but all of the news servers are up, functioning and reachable.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22877898 Sun, 16 Aug 2009 20:42:25 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22877871 ric11 : Is anyone having luck this weekend with gateway6 and sabnzbd+? I seem to be logging in okay to gateway6 but I can't connect to any of xsnews, eweka or newszilla. I was able to connect and download okay Thursday night but I haven't been able to connect Friday, Saturday or today. I am wondering if it is just me because I see noone else complaining. Thanks.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22877871 Sun, 16 Aug 2009 20:36:20 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22858516 l0thar : Lewism8, enjoy. :D

The TSI newsserver (actual Usenetserver.com, them being the real providers) sometimes get confused and gives you more than you are supposed to get. Had this experience myself way back when I started with TSI usenet.

If you keep the session going (no disconnection, no modem hiccups), you might enjoy that double speed thrill for a bit. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22858516 Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:45:22 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22858002 Lewism8 : I'm trying to figure out the 1 Mbit limit but I can't!

I'm downloading at 250 kb/sec right now which is around 2 Mbit. I'm connected via 5 threads.
Is there a thread limit? Am I doing something wrong? lol]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22858002 Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:20:21 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22853681 brad : I e-mailed the admin of XSnews and its back up as of 5AM.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22853681 Wed, 12 Aug 2009 09:24:21 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22853684 l0thar :

said by ggpr

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I am having problems with eweka tonight... anyone else?

Same here, was out yesterday, still out today. :(

GOOD NEWS though -- XSnews server is currently up and running, they are the best of the group imo.

infamouskid, I can see your point. This week has been really bad for the ipv6 services. Had been running it for a couple months, mostly without any hiccups. These last few days were bad.

Cheers for XSnews though. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22853684 Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:41:28 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22852503 infamouskid : honestly...this ipv6 service with newsgroups is not reliable.
i have already switched back to my giganews sub.
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said by ggpr

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I am having problems with eweka tonight... anyone else?

yes me too...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22852298 Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:46:05 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22852159 ggpr : I am having problems with eweka tonight... anyone else?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22852159 Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:17:12 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22848276 anynomous : hi guys,
for those using he tunnel, no need to delete your tunnel each time your ip change,
what you do, you log in he website, select your tunnel, then select your ip
enter your new ip then submit that's it]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22848276 Tue, 11 Aug 2009 08:04:55 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22847279 infamouskid : im running he's tunnel. and i am pingable. but yeah slow service.
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said by diskdocx

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I was never able to get connectivity with the HE either on my Cogeco or TekSavvy connections.

Definitely an issue with your configuration. I bet you were trying to setup the tunnel to a PC behind some cheap router.

said by diskdocx

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As for speed, none of them max my TS connection, but on Cogeco I was pulling 1.8 from XSNews before it went down.

I don't know what the setup is like for Go6 but HE's tunnelbroker POPs are connected via GigE links to the tunnelbroker POP servers and some are being upgraded to 10GigE. There are no limitations on throughput.

I have no problem pushing/pulling 20Mbps+ through a tunnel to other well connected systems.

Were you running with multiple connections to the news server? To max out any relatively high speed connection you'll need multiple connections to the server.

said by diskdocx

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Right now I can't get Eweka or XSNews (as of 8PM EST 10/08/09).

Eweka is up and working now.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22846634 Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:48:50 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22846667 corkyy : Well, xsnews is kinda down.. »www.xsnews.com/ipv6/ look at the graph...

For eweka it work perfectly with a HE tunnel, I'm running eweka with TSI 1mbps right now and my line is fully saturated ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22846667 Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:36:37 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22846466 diskdocx : I was never able to get connectivity with the HE either on my Cogeco or TekSavvy connections.

The Go6 tunnel worked right away.

Now, I'll fully admit that I probably messed something up trying to get the HE configured - Go6 is easier as it does all the work :)

As for speed, none of them max my TS connection, but on Cogeco I was pulling 1.8 from XSNews before it went down.

Right now I can't get Eweka or XSNews (as of 8PM EST 10/08/09).

Not sure why, but I do occasionally have to re-run the bat files for the netsh.

Anyone know why exactly?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22846466 Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:02:21 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22845326 markj :

said by infamouskid

:

after playing around with newsgroups and ipv6...
is it just me or is this service very slow?

i found the HE service to be a bit faster than gateway6 but for me it is better to use gateway6 because i have a dynamic ip....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22845326 Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:47:32 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22845302 l0thar :

said by infamouskid

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is it just me or is this service very slow?

Today I am also seeing slower speeds than usual, with Gateway6 client, server being Eweka.nl. :(

Speeds do float a bit, on good days it maxes my connection easily. Not sure if people using HE server would see the same or not.

I like the simplicity of the Tunnelbroker service (HE tunnels) but not the complications with firewall and dynamic ip that require updating their tunnel config, etc.

For someone with a fixed IP, HE would be easier. For dynamic ip folks, I find Gateway6 works easier and well, most of the time.

Regarding the HE tunnels being 'trasparent' as infamouskid mentioned, they require a clean link, pingable from the server end directly to your machine.

If you can achieve that (firewal, router configuration need fixing), you can also run similar connection modes on both Gateway6 client ("IPv6-in-IPv4 Tunnel, Native mode") and in SixXs's aiccu clients.

SixX has no gateways in Canada, closest one I used was in Texas. HE has a server in Toronto, really close to Teksavvy's point of presence, indeed an advantage.

Gateway6 client traffic goes to Montreal, and from there into IPv6 space.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22845302 Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:42:10 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22845084 brad :

said by infamouskid

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gracias. all working now. maybe the HE connection is the better tunnel since its transparant.

I much prefer HE. It doesn't require a client. The tunnel is "always up". Their POP is closer and better latency. Their IPv6 network is considerably better than Go6's transit provider TATA Comm. Also the tunnelbroker service is treated more or less like a production service. I can call into HE's NOC if anything happens. Applications permitting I run everything with v6. All of my systems are connected with v6.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22845084 Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:11:47 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22844947 El Quintron : Hmmm...

Something's not right, when I was using them, before getting and maxing out at about 400-500 KBs

You should definitely pulling in more than the TSI service maxed at 1 MB.

Are you on HE or Freenet/Gateway6 ?
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is it just me or is this service very slow?
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"carpe diem"]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22844759 Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:17:05 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22844567 infamouskid :

said by l0thar

said by infamouskid

:

i still cannot get newsleecher to work with ipv6.
does anyone know of a webbased reader like nab that can do repair,extract, par and monitor? and of course works with ipv6?

gracias. all working now. maybe the HE connection is the better tunnel since its transparant.
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"carpe diem"]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22844567 Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:41:24 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22844291 l0thar :

said by infamouskid

:

i still cannot get newsleecher to work with ipv6.
does anyone know of a webbased reader like nab that can do repair,extract, par and monitor? and of course works with ipv6?

I really like alt.binz, which does all of the above except directly suporting IPv6 addresses. ( »www.altbinz.net/ )

You can get newsleecher, or alt.binz, or any other regular newsreader to work with IPv6 servers, by simply using Windows's own port proxy command.

A good detailed message in this thread, with detailed commands and explanation : »Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet (it's on page 10 of current thread)

Good luck! :)

edit : typo fix, add alt.binz url]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22844291 Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:00:24 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22844249 infamouskid : thanks. found it. i think i prefer the gateway6 method over the hurricane electrics method now.

i still cannot get newsleecher to work with ipv6.
does anyone know of a webbased reader like nab that can do repair,extract, par and monitor? and of course works with ipv6?
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said by brad

said by markj

:

@infamouskid looks like your trying to use xsnews...its down now and only newzilla is working so try that...the password is in the blog post tutorial

Eweka is up too.

Yes, I have been using Eweka today, and for me it's a better server - completes downloads much better than Newszilla.

Trying to traceroute to XSnews.nl, the traceroute dies somewhere in Amsterdam - one hop after the Hurricane Electric's Amsterdam gateway router.

eots, you CAN get FREE service if you setup the software needed to connect to the FREE IPv6-only test newsservers from Eweka, XSNews and others.

The information you need was provided in this thread. Either you take the time to read and follow it, or you can choose to pay for a normal, commercial service. Your choice.

I am happy saving the USD$14 a month I used to pay Astraweb for the service. I am getting similar service (although subject to some outages here and there, and needing some tending to) for Free, zero, no cost.

The info is here, and people are helpful. But, if you don't care to take the time to read, is it fair to expect people to repeat it all over again, for your sole benefit ? :p ;)

Signing up for a paid service is indeed easier. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22844199 Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:46:16 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22843846 brad :

said by infamouskid

:

hey guys,

how can i reclaim my tunnel with tunnelbroker?

You go into the tunnelbroker web UI and scroll down the front page until you see the link representing your tunnel. Click on it. Then click on the "Delete Tunnel" button to the top right.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22843846 Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:50:36 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22843635 infamouskid : hey guys,

how can i reclaim my tunnel with tunnelbroker?
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"carpe diem"]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22843635 Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:15:48 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22843562 brad :

said by markj

:

@infamouskid looks like your trying to use xsnews...its down now and only newzilla is working so try that...the password is in the blog post tutorial

Eweka is up too.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22843562 Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:03:02 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22843543 infamouskid : finally i got it working.
ok so i prefer to use newsleecher.
do i just edit that bat file to allow newsleecher to work with these settings? or is the bat no longer needed becuase of the gateway6 prog running?
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gateway is up and running.

these are the server settings i am using with the info gathered here.

now what i don't get is i am able to ping ipv6 servers and website. however i am still unable to download anything. and from the look of sabnzbd+'s log....im stumped.

Last warnings (clear)
2009-08-10 11:23:04,404 WARNING [downloader] Thread 5@reader.ipv6.xsnews.nl:119: timed out
2009-08-10 11:25:04,414 WARNING [downloader] Thread 6@reader.ipv6.xsnews.nl:119: timed out
2009-08-10 11:27:04,426 WARNING [downloader] Thread 7@reader.ipv6.xsnews.nl:119: timed out
2009-08-10 11:29:04,437 WARNING [downloader] Thread 8@reader.ipv6.xsnews.nl:119: timed out
2009-08-10 11:31:04,447 WARNING [downloader] Thread 9@reader.ipv6.xsnews.nl:119: timed out
2009-08-10 11:33:04,417 WARNING [downloader] Thread 10@reader.ipv6.xsnews.nl:119: timed out
2009-08-10 11:35:27,956 ERROR [newswrapper] Failed to connect: (10060, 'Operation timed out') 1@reader.ipv6.xsnews.nl:119
2009-08-10 11:35:28,142 ERROR [newswrapper] Failed to connect: (10060, 'Operation timed out') 2@reader.ipv6.xsnews.nl:119
2009-08-10 11:35:28,345 ERROR [newswrapper] Failed to connect: (10060, 'Operation timed out') 3@reader.ipv6.xsnews.nl:119
2009-08-10 11:35:28,549 ERROR [newswrapper] Failed to connect: (10060, 'Operation timed out') 4@reader.ipv6.xsnews.nl:119
2009-08-10 11:35:28,736 ERROR [newswrapper] Failed to connect: (10060, 'Operation timed out') 5@reader.ipv6.xsnews.nl:119
2009-08-10 11:35:28,953 ERROR [newswrapper] Failed to connect: (10060, 'Operation timed out') 6@reader.ipv6.xsnews.nl:119
2009-08-10 11:35:29,157 ERROR [newswrapper] Failed to connect: (10060, 'Operation timed out') 7@reader.ipv6.xsnews.nl:119
2009-08-10 11:35:29,375 ERROR [newswrapper] Failed to connect: (10060, 'Operation timed out') 8@reader.ipv6.xsnews.nl:119
2009-08-10 11:35:29,578 ERROR [newswrapper] Failed to connect: (10060, 'Operation timed out') 9@reader.ipv6.xsnews.nl:119
2009-08-10 11:35:29,828 ERROR [newswrapper] Failed to connect: (10060, 'Operation timed out') 10@reader.ipv6.xsnews.nl:119
2009-08-10 11:37:06,859 WARNING [downloader] Thread 1@reader.ipv6.xsnews.nl:119: timed out
2009-08-10 11:39:06,871 WARNING [downloader] Thread 2@reader.ipv6.xsnews.nl:119: timed out
2009-08-10 11:41:06,878 WARNING [downloader] Thread 3@reader.ipv6.xsnews.nl:119: timed out
2009-08-10 11:43:06,861 WARNING [downloader] Thread 4@reader.ipv6.xsnews.nl:119: timed out

??? whats up? do i have to email the other 2 providers for a special ipv6 activation username and login as well? or did i miss something?
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said by eots

said by corkyy

:

Eweka and XSnews on a 100mbps server give me a 45mbps download, it's pretty good for something free.

What's free about these news groups? They both require paid subscriptions and Xsnews only provides a free 5 day trial and then you have to pay.

wrong they are completely free, you will have to read this thread to understand how to get this working...if you dont have the time than maybe you should just get paid newsgroup subscription...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22843394 Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:39:34 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22843358 brad :

said by infamouskid

:

hey guys who got this working...

should i still be using port 119 as the default port?
i was able to get ipv6 pingable responses. just a little unsure as to what the server settings should be. should i still be following the settings laid out in that tut posted earlier??

Yes, 119 is the standard NNTP port. Nothing about the info provided has changed so continue to follow the instructions others have provided.

BTW.. as has been stated a few times.. of the 3 providers mentioned XSnews is currently down and they're aware of the issue. hopefully it should be back up today.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22843358 Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:35:00 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22843231 infamouskid : hey guys who got this working...

should i still be using port 119 as the default port?
i was able to get ipv6 pingable responses. just a little unsure as to what the server settings should be. should i still be following the settings laid out in that tut posted earlier??
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"carpe diem"]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22843231 Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:15:13 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22843151 eots : This thread is 13 pages long and I have better things to do with my time. Once again you are NOT being helpful and when you have nothing constructive to say, why bother saying anything at all!

»www.xsnews.com/Home/
Free 5 day trial period & immediate downloading.
With all our subscriptions you will receive a once-only 5 trial days for FREE. This way everybody can discover how good XS News is! Our payment methods enable all users to use our service immediately.

»www.eweka.nl/en/forum/
Signing up for an Eweka usenet account works as follows:
1. Sign up at www.eweka.nl/en/usenet_toegang/aanmelden/
2. You will receive a confirmation e-mail, with your payment details and information you need for making payments to our bank account. We prefer you pay via online banking, to reduce errors in processing the payment.

Neither of these news groups are free other than the 5 day trial on xsnews.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22843151 Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:01:30 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22843098 eots : Not wrong, I went to both sites and they are paid subscriptions. Provide the the URL's the have the info that say they're free.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22843098 Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:51:07 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22843057 brad :

said by eots

:

What's free about these news groups? They both require paid subscriptions and Xsnews only provides a free 5 day trial and then you have to pay.

Wrong.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22843057 Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:43:37 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22842770 l0thar :

said by infamouskid

:

followed that tut. no dice on any of the 3 mentioned providers.

anyone know what the guide is missing:??

There are different things that can affect our connections to the IPv6 servers. DNS problems, IPv6 routing problems, on top of all the usual IPv4 stuff.

Just went thru some troubleshooting myself, as I couldn't get a connection to any of the 3 servers. Got it working again with two out of the three servers just now.

Diagnostic process :

- first thing, make sure your IPv6 connection is up and running, ping ipv6.google.com will check if your side can resolve the host (IPv6 only address) and ping it successfully.

- if this worked, now try pinging the IPv6 news servers. This did NOT work for me, ping news.ipv6.eweka.nl did NOT resolve (get the proper v6 address), so ping wouldn't work.

- if you could ping the server and see replies via an ipv6 addy, it should connect via newsreader. In my case, the last step failed, as it did not resolve the v6 address.

Fixed it by moving to a different DNS server on my side, I used OpenDNS, changed to the Level3 servers as primary instead (4.2.2.1, 4.2.2.2, 4.2.2.3, 4.2.2.4).

Rebooted and now i can ping eweka, and the newsreader works with eweka and newszilla. :)

BUT - my favourite XSnews server is still not reachable. a traceroute to their site seems to hit a snag on the way there - routing problems likely. :(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22842770 Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:43:35 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22842664 eots :

said by corkyy

:

Eweka and XSnews on a 100mbps server give me a 45mbps download, it's pretty good for something free.

What's free about these news groups? They both require paid subscriptions and Xsnews only provides a free 5 day trial and then you have to pay.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22842664 Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:11:55 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22842441 brad :

said by qtwre

:

Eweka actually isn't working for me. I'm getting connection refused. port 119, no login/pass, right?

It seems to have been down for a few hours last night but its back up and working now.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22842441 Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:26:17 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22841804 markj :

said by qtwre

:

Eweka actually isn't working for me. I'm getting connection refused. port 119, no login/pass, right?

same for me only slow newszilla working right now for me...getting time out errors but was working earlier in the day]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22841804 Sun, 09 Aug 2009 23:08:27 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22841767 infamouskid : »www.kaisersblog.com/2009/01/free···ng-ipv6/

followed that tut. no dice on any of the 3 mentioned providers.

anyone know what the guide is missing:??
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"carpe diem"]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22841767 Sun, 09 Aug 2009 22:58:12 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22841494 qtwre : Eweka actually isn't working for me. I'm getting connection refused. port 119, no login/pass, right?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22841494 Sun, 09 Aug 2009 21:54:05 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22841238 l0thar :

said by ddasilva99

:

Could you please tell me which servers are currently online?

Eweka.nl is online and working well, XSnews has been offline for a few days. The Newszilla server I haven't been using since it seemed to miss a lot of posts I was looking for.

Best of the bunch are XSnews and Eweka, in that order. I use XS mostly, unless they have a problem, like currently.

Symptom - can't connect to reader.ipv6.xsnews.nl; pings do not return. DNS seems to resolve it fine, it's either a routing problem in the far end, or their reader system is down/offline.

and infamouskid wrote :

quote:
hold up did you say free??
what's free?

Free as in no cost, complimentary, gratuito, no charge. ;)

Read this thread a few pages back and learn. If you invest the time into setting up, you can get really nice newsgroups service for no cost, with speeds up to 20 Mbit/s. ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22841238 Sun, 09 Aug 2009 20:50:19 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22841176 infamouskid :

said by ohmer

:

The main advantage is it's free and not throttled to 1mbit.

hold up did you say free??
what's free?
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"carpe diem"]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22841176 Sun, 09 Aug 2009 20:33:17 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22841106 ddasilva99 : Hey Guys,

I am having a helluva time trying to connect to the free IPv6 usenet servers.

Could you please tell me which servers are currently online?

Thanks,
D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22841106 Sun, 09 Aug 2009 20:09:47 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22840417 ohmer : The main advantage is it's free and not throttled to 1mbit.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22840417 Sun, 09 Aug 2009 17:15:10 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22840381 infamouskid : are there any advantages to using ipv6 gateway for newsgroups?

im with giganews right now using ipv4.

also i have the lifetime plan with nzb matrix. compared to the many sites i am a part of. i find nzbmatrix to be the best.
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"carpe diem"]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22840381 Sun, 09 Aug 2009 17:01:41 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22840173 l0thar :

said by qtwre

:

Has xsnews stopped working for anyone? It's been solid for a long time but in the past week or so it has stopped working.

Yes, unfortunately they have been offline for a few days. :(

Have been using Eweka.nl server since then, and it's worked well.

XSnews retention is up over 212 days, successfully retrieved a post that old, no problems while they were online.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22840173 Sun, 09 Aug 2009 16:04:31 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22839972 brad :

said by qtwre

:

Has xsnews stopped working for anyone? It's been solid for a long time but in the past week or so it has stopped working.

Sabnzb tells me no route to host. I'm trying to figure out if it's them or me. Nothing has changed on my end. A traceroute gives up before it gets to the host. ipv6.google.com works fine though.

It isn't just you and it is an issue on their end.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22839972 Sun, 09 Aug 2009 15:05:49 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22839801 markj : ya seems to be down lately for me too...using some of the other free ones mentioned in this thread...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22839801 Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:18:57 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22839750 ggpr : qtwre,
ditto, so I have started using other free news servers with my teksavvy news server while periodically checking xsnews]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22839750 Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:06:49 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22839661 qtwre : Has xsnews stopped working for anyone? It's been solid for a long time but in the past week or so it has stopped working.

Sabnzb tells me no route to host. I'm trying to figure out if it's them or me. Nothing has changed on my end. A traceroute gives up before it gets to the host. ipv6.google.com works fine though.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22839661 Sun, 09 Aug 2009 13:40:24 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22752742 El Quintron : Try SABnzbd+ for windows:

»sabnzbd.wikidot.com/install-windows

That's get you the binaries from SF, and you're off to the races afterwards.

Once you have SABnzbd+ install it but don't launch it, or if you do, make sure to shut it down from the menu (rather than x-ing out of it)

Open up your Gateway6/Freenet6 client

Open up SABnzbd+ enter your IPv6 servers, and then test it...

That's the most bullet proof way of setting it up that I know of.
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As a test, I have been experimenting with the checking and unchecking of "Launch the Gateway6 Clent Service at system startup", but that does not seem to matter either way. Is this a firewall issue or some setting that is forcing me to reinstall Gateway6 every single time?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22752247 Thu, 23 Jul 2009 01:55:17 EDT Re: Anybody else needs to constantly reinstall everything? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22752094 markj : switch to a native ipv6 newsreader and then you dont need to use the .bat]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22752094 Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:45:50 EDT Anybody else needs to constantly reinstall everything? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22751895 anon : If I close down this Gateway6 program and/or reboot my system, this whole process (Gateway6 + .bat + newsreader) always fails for some reason. Either Gateway6 cannot get a network address or the newsreader is unable to connect properly.

This happens to me everytime. In the end, I just uninstall Gateway6 while saving my settings and then reinstalling the program. Only then will the 3-item combo work. Of course, it is annoying to always reinstall. Anybody else have this problem or know of a solution?

Thanks.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22751895 Wed, 22 Jul 2009 23:46:05 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22711254 markj : ive used newsbin and just switched to nzbmatrix...they both are good but i like the lifetime price for nzbmatrix and it seems that some new release stuff is posted faster on nzb matrix. nzb matrix also lists 'hits' so you know whats popular and the selection seems better (more hand picked)

things i miss about newsbin is the raw usenet search and slick sabnzb integration (nzb matrix rss support is going to be added to the next sabnzb release)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22711254 Wed, 15 Jul 2009 11:04:44 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22708510 MIghtyCicero : I'm mainly using »www.nzbmatrix.com.

Free for recent stuff but very good after you pay a 1 time 10$ to access everything. It does the job for me. Their layout is very good among nzb sites.

I've never seen Newsbin because it's invite only and I don't *know people* but even then I hear it's a subscription service which is a bummer for me. I'd like to know how it compares to nzbmatrix.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22708510 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:53:21 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22708357 salamence502 : Yep, nzbdStatus is a great little extention, worth using if you have NewzBin and Firefox :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22708357 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:22:53 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22708116 markj : i just installed nzbstatus and it works great...wish chrome had plugins like this...

the thing i like the most about newsgroups over torrents is new stuff is much faster to obtain...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22708116 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:31:43 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22707617 El Quintron :

said by MIghtyCicero

:

the "nzbdStatus" firefox extension.

1-click nzb downloads.

Hmmm...

Imma check that one out tonight!
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Working to bring you closer to a Bell and Rogers free household.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22707617 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:47:09 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22706750 MIghtyCicero : Astraweb is great. They are currently offering a special 96$ for a full year (8$/month). Which is very affordable for their excellent service.

But Usenet in general is great vs torrenting. I actually stopped torrenting since I discovered Usenet. I can find about 99% of what I want there. The occasional throttled torrent complete the remaining 1%.

Usenet means no uploading and no ratio to maintain which means more bandwidth for downloading.

But the 1 thing I REALLY like about Usenet is the speed. Max my connection at all time unlike torrents. Even if it was just released. Usually a torrent can take sometime to get fast when it is first seeded.

For NZBs, I'm using »www.sabnzbd.org along with the "nzbdStatus" firefox extension.

1-click nzb downloads.

TSI Usenet service might be good as a backup but so far I have not really had the need for one.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22706750 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:21:10 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22705175 El Quintron :

said by NoCashBob

:

For zero hassles get NewsBin Pro, QuickPar, and grab some block from usenet-news.net. Bookmark newzleech.com and you'll have zero troubles. Of course I'm assuming you're on Windows, for *nix I dunno.

ISP usenet is usually spotty, with bad retention. Quality Usenet is fantastic, and between MLPPP Torrenting and Usenet, most anything can be had ;)

I'm very pleased with Astraweb so far, in order of preference with my short-ish usenet history, I'll rate as follows:

1) Astraweb (only caveat is that SSL doesn't work with PAN on *NIX)

2) IPv6 + Freenet6 (easiest on Ubuntu *nix) servers mentionned above, but they're a little touchy.

3) TSI (ISP Usenet) Slow, no SSL, but very reliable.
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ISP usenet is usually spotty, with bad retention. Quality Usenet is fantastic, and between MLPPP Torrenting and Usenet, most anything can be had ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22705050 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:01:11 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22694648 l0thar :

said by markj

:

your right, the HE tunnel maxed out my connection (500k/sec) but the gateway 6 only goes about 450k - it also seems to use more computer resources

That looks like using around 90% of your connection maximum, not shabby imo. I usually have alt.binz capped at 90% of my connection to leave some room for other tasks and users in our home network.

One thing I would point out (I have mentioned it before) is that if you enable the 'Hexago Gateway6 client' (in the Windows services.msc or via Control Panel) to start in 'Automatic' mode, you don't need to start up the regular Gateway6 client.

My system boot up, and I have IPv6 connectivity as soon as my desktop finishes loading. As a result, I don't use the Gateway6 client software unless I want to see the logs. :)

The HE tunnels have a level of elegance on providing the same IPv6 connectivity without needing any other software (no services or clients needed), simply using the Windows own IPv6 routing commands.

The problem is that, for people in dynamic IP situations, setting up the tunnel manually, and reseting the tunnel end on HE's webpage is a PITA, imo. The whole tedious process has to be repeated any time you disconnect, modem resets dsl link, etc.

But, each person can find their ideal way, experimenting is always good.

Just would not recommend the SixXs tunnels at all, very high latency, all your traffic is routed thru the USA to reach their gateways, higher latencies. And you have to provide a lot of personal info to get an account. Not worth it at all, compared to HE or Gateway6 tunnels. ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22694648 Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:03:22 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22693254 markj :

said by l0thar

:

Both XSnews and Eweka servers are back online. Eweka takes a bit longer to connect to, but is there.

So, all 3 IPv6 free news servers are back online, good. :)

edit: typo fixed.

your right, the HE tunnel maxed out my connection (500k/sec) but the gateway 6 only goes about 450k - it also seems to use more computer resources

edit: was replying to ohmer]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22693254 Sat, 11 Jul 2009 23:12:39 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22693081 brad :

said by ddasilva99

:

Hi Brad,

Are you getting timeout errors at the moment using the Gateway6 client?

Thanks,
D

I don't use go6/Freenet6. I use HE for tunnels.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22693081 Sat, 11 Jul 2009 22:25:37 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22692902 ddasilva99 : Hi Brad,

Are you getting timeout errors at the moment using the Gateway6 client?

Thanks,
D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22692902 Sat, 11 Jul 2009 21:35:17 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22687831 brad :

said by l0thar

:

Both XSnews and Eweka servers are back online. Eweka a bit takes a bit longer to connect to, but is there.

So, all 3 IPv6 free news servers are back online, good. :)

The services themselves were never down. There were some network related issues that caused issues connecting to the services.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22687831 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:05:56 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22687586 l0thar : Both XSnews and Eweka servers are back online. Eweka takes a bit longer to connect to, but is there.

So, all 3 IPv6 free news servers are back online, good. :)

edit: typo fixed.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22687586 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:28:13 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22683042 ohmer :

said by markj

:

i noticed this too last night but thought it was my setup so i tried out the gateway6 tunnel...i just figured out they were down when i couldnt ping eweka or xsnews...i wish the backup server option worked on sabnzb...

btw gateway6 is pretty nice tunnel system...probably will only use HE as a backup now...nice they have a MTL server too

If you are on Teksavvy, a Toronto server is better because Teksavvy POP is in Toronto, not in Montréal. Usually your ping is better to a Toronto server than a Montréal server with Teksavvy even if you are in Montréal.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22683042 Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:53:15 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22682250 markj : i noticed this too last night but thought it was my setup so i tried out the gateway6 tunnel...i just figured out they were down when i couldnt ping eweka or xsnews...i wish the backup server option worked on sabnzb...

btw gateway6 is pretty nice tunnel system...probably will only use HE as a backup now...nice they have a MTL server too]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22682250 Thu, 09 Jul 2009 19:23:00 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22681805 darcmage : I was just about to make a post asking what happened to the IPV6 servers. Hope they come back online soon and appreciate the port proxy tip.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22681805 Thu, 09 Jul 2009 17:51:27 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22681598 anynomous :

said by l0thar

:

Speeds are higher than the 150 KB/s max I remember, I am getting ~270 KB/s with 4 connections. Great. :)

i think i was getting around 380k/4 threads, but i did not try it very long, just a couple of minute, because you mentioned they were down.
i haven't downloaded anything the past week, so i don't know what the 3 servers status were lately]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22681598 Thu, 09 Jul 2009 17:11:56 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22681474 l0thar :

said by anynomous

:

newszilla6 is working for me but not eweka nor xs news

Ah, wonderful, thanks for mentioning it.

Got it working with Newszilla now too, just had to portproxy it, and it's up and running. Speeds are higher than the 150 KB/s max I remember, I am getting ~270 KB/s with 4 connections. Great. :)

anynomous, thank you for mentioning it. Yes, it's true these servers will eventually be closed to free logins.

The current problem seems to be a router gone bad somewhere in the chain. Hopefully it will be fixed soon.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22681474 Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:44:49 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22681388 anynomous : newszilla6 is working for me but not eweka nor xs news
don't know if it's down for good, or just temporary,
don't forget these are open just for testing, we won't have free access for ever.
sooner or later they will kick us out :D ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22681388 Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:28:25 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22681002 El Quintron : Damn! I hope this is sorted out soon...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22681002 Thu, 09 Jul 2009 15:20:07 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22680913 l0thar : :: IPv6 Servers -- Status Update ::

Nobody has mentioned it yet, but there seems to be a problem in reaching the ipv6 newsservers right now. :(

I was connected last night until about 6 pm, then it disconnected, and I could reach any of the ipv6 free servers anymore.

Waited a bit, this morning same thing. Just finished re-installing and configuring a different tunnel, with another provider (thinking it could possibly be a problem with Freenet6, maybe). Well, can't reach them via SixXs tunnel either. :hmm:

A traceroute seems to indicate a problem in routing, before it reaches their servers. Can't ping them either, not XSnews, newszilla or eweka.

Just thought to post and let everyone know, if you are having problems, it's not just you. Bummer...

EDIT : Newszilla is up and running. Their speed limitations (used to be maximum 3 connections, maximum 50 KB/s each) also seem to be removed, so they are now on par with the other free ipv6 servers (eweka, xsnews) which are still not working.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22680913 Thu, 09 Jul 2009 15:01:58 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22671883 l0thar :

said by Kilmer

:

I'm connecting to authenticated.freenet6.net (the montreal server), under 'NAT transversal' and the 2nd network connection icon gets stuck in 'aquiring network address'. Then i get the cable unplugged message and it just loops like that.

The 'aquiring network address' message is normal, I get that all the time and my connection is fully functional regardless.

But if it drops back to 'network cable unlpugged', it means the connection failed. :(

It's probably caused by the double NAT from the two routers in sequence. I suggest you try modifying your network layout, to have a single router between you and the Net.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22671883 Wed, 08 Jul 2009 08:46:14 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22670162 Kilmer :
I'm running WinXP SP2.

Just to see if I've been doing something wrong, i went with the suggestions and tried the Gateway6 client. The install always hangs when it gets to 'installing hexTUN driver'. I shut it down via task manager, and the 2nd time around it completes.
The 1st router is set to DMZ the 2nd router, which in turn has DMZ set on my PC. Unfortunately, I can't test without this chain setup as the modem is all the way on the other end of the house (its all hardwire).

I'm connecting to authenticated.freenet6.net (the montreal server), under 'NAT transversal' and the 2nd network connection icon gets stuck in 'aquiring network address'. Then i get the cable unplugged message and it just loops like that.

Argh.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22670162 Tue, 07 Jul 2009 20:57:16 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22669352 anon : Anyone with linux can sign up to tunnelbroker.net and then do the following (assuming 6tunnel is already installed, if not grab your distros version):

replace 123.123.123.123 with the tunnel endpoint given to you by tunnelbroker. Replace 2001:111:1111:111::2/64 with the address given to you by tunnelbroker.

Point news clients at 127.0.0.1 ports 1119, 2119 and 3119 and you are done :) I max out my comcrashed line with these servers. retention isnt horrible either.
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22669352 Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:14:03 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22667429 El Quintron : Oh!

(lightbulb appears)

Ok you need to find a way (commonly openDNS) to forward your Dynamic IP to HE .

There are services that will forward your dynamic IP over, because if not you're going to have to reboot your "tunnel" everytime your IP changes.

Others would definitely be more knowlegeable about this than me.

I'm 99% positive that's what's throwing you off, because the tunnel keeps connecting to an expired address.
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I took one look at HE (registrations, extensive setup) and then I took a look at Gateway6/IPv6 for ubuntu and I was up in about five...

What OS are you using if you don't mind my asking, myself or l0thar

would prolly be able to walk you through most of it.
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said by Kilmer

:

I have an HE tunnel up, and I'm using the customized script for windows...

[snipped part]

Anyway, I cannot ping ipv6.google.com
I keep getting 'Destination host unreachable'.

Your HE tunnel is not working if you cannot ping ipv6.google.com. :(

My suggestion(s):

- make sure microsoft's IPv6 network protocol is installed.

- then install and try out Gateway6 client.

The HE tunnels can work, but are a lot more finicky.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22664047 Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:11:56 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22662530 El Quintron : I would say the routers are in some type of conflict, and that you're being firewalled in. IPv6 is designed to make NAT traversal transparent.

So something on one of the routers is blocking you.
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I followed the guide below;
»www.kaisersblog.com/2009/01/free···ng-ipv6/

And I've read this entire thread about 4 times now. I've spent a lot of hours trying to figure it out myself, but I have no idea what I'm doing wrong.

Right now, I'm trying to connect SABnzbd over 2 routers (i guess that means double NAT?...). I have an HE tunnel up, and I'm using the customized script for windows...(I'm not even sure if i need a tunnel for SABnzbd. Doesnt it support it natively?) Anyway, I cannot ping ipv6.google.com
I keep getting 'Destination host unreachable'.
I've turned off win xp firewall, tried in DMZ, etc. Both my routers have Ping reply turned on. (They're both DLINK DI-704UP). I Installed the Gateway6 software, then uninstalled it for some reason or another, and I've also installed/uninstalled the windows IPv6 via console once or twice now.
Also, when i ping localhost now, i'm [::1].

Any suggestions?

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22658141 Sun, 05 Jul 2009 19:00:48 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22654706 l0thar : This was on one of my posts earlier in this thread (one page back) :

-----------------------[repost]-----------------------

Yes, that's the port proxy command. Only difference is that in my case, I am using the listenport as 1119 - it seems to work better that way. So the command would be :

netsh interface portproxy add v4tov6 listenport=1119 connectaddress=reader.ipv6.xsnews.nl connectport=119

... and you configure your newsreader to connect to localhost, port 1119.

This command is permanent - I only had to use it once. I recall having some problems with it when using port 119 for both the ipv4 and ipv6 sides, but changing it like in the example above cleared it.

It's possible to add extra port proxies for other servers, for example, if you want to use eweka.nl as well as xsnews, you could type a port proxy command for that :

netsh interface portproxy add v4tov6 listenport=1120 connectaddress=news.ipv6.eweka.nl connectport=119

Detail here is the listenport HAS to be a different port number than the other, I am using 1120 for eweka. Configure the server on the newsreader accordingly - as localhost, port 1120.

Once you have that, you can have your newsclient use one or the other, or both servers if desired (not really needed for me, as xsnews maxes my connection).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22654706 Sat, 04 Jul 2009 17:57:07 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22654669 ddasilva99 : Thank you for your post.

Which commands should I use if I want to port forward IPv6 connections to Gateway6?

Thanks,
D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22654669 Sat, 04 Jul 2009 17:49:37 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22654631 l0thar :

said by ddasilva99

:

I am still getting problems when connecting to the Usenet servers. Any suggestions?

Yes - try to connect to one of the servers via telnet (to port 120) : "telnet news.ipv6.eweka.nl 120" , or ping the same server and see if you get a response.

Telnet should give you a response ('server ready' or similar), although right now I am not getting a response to telnet to eweka or xsnews.nl. Bizarre, since I can dl news from xs just fine.

My guess is that you might be having problems with your newsreader not being able to handle ipv6. Quite a few good news clients still can't handle those direcltly, there are a couple of work arounds mentioned in the thread, a couple of posts above (using windows port proxy command is the best one).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22654631 Sat, 04 Jul 2009 17:37:15 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22653287 ddasilva99 : Hi Guys,

Im sticking to the G6 client since everyone else is not experiencing problems. I've confirmed IPv6 functionality by checking ipv6.google.ca and whatismyipv6.com.

I am still getting problems when connecting to the Usenet servers. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22653287 Sat, 04 Jul 2009 10:22:49 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22652535 l0thar :

said by El Quintron

:

I should try and setup it up on windows, but I'm assuming it would avoid NAT issues due to being an IPv6 product.

Yes, the Gateway6 for Windows client is very, very easy to get going. It's got 3 modes : Native, NAT transversal and a 3rd one I forgot, it's an odd acronym.

The SixXs's aiccu client is also easy to setup behind a router or firewall, it also punches thru the NAT on its own. But getting an account on SixXs is not as easy as on Freeenet6, and you have to disclose a lot of personal information. I would not recommend it, mine has been unused after a short trial period.

ohmer, that IPv6 routing via the dd-wrt router is a cool setup. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22652535 Sat, 04 Jul 2009 00:50:40 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22651295 El Quintron : That's pretty cool, I'm using IPv6 via TSPC installed on individual computers so each machine with TSPC can access anything IPv6.

So about 3 of the Ubuntu boxes connect to IPv6 Transparently...
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IPV4 still route to my tomato box :

IPV4 IP: PC -> Tomato -> Internet

IPV6 route via my dd-wrt box :

IPV6 IP: PC -> DD-WRT -> Tomato -> Internet

Both wrt54gl are connected by one of their switch port (dhcp is disabled on the dd-wrt).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22651269 Fri, 03 Jul 2009 18:54:08 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22651197 El Quintron : I would also vouch for Gateway6, it's got good cross platform support and was a breeze to set up on Ubuntu.

I should try and setup it up on windows, but I'm assuming it would avoid NAT issues due to being an IPv6 product.
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said by ddasilva99

:

...however, in the last couple of days I am getting per user connection exceeded and connection refused errors.

That's odd, haven't seen any of those messages myself yet.

Are you using your own account or the anonymous one?

Setting up with Tunnelbroker was a bit of a pain for me due to firewall issues. I could only get it working if placing my system on the DMZ, and since Gateway6 works so well, I never pursued it much further.

HE has examples of the commands you need to use in your tunnel's information page. It's all done via operating system commands (netsh this and that, 3 or 4 lines makes it work).

Again. the real issue being that their server pings you every so often to make sure you are still there, and respoding properly to that ping is crucial. Some people report success in running HE tunnel by allowing icmp in their Tomato routers.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22651103 Fri, 03 Jul 2009 18:18:48 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22650921 ddasilva99 : Hey Guys,

I am having a hell of a time trying to connect to the newsgroups listed in this discussion using Gateway6. I was not experiencing problems for the past couple of weeks, however, in the last couple of days I am getting per user connection exceeded and connection refused errors.

I signed up for an HE/Tunnelbroker account. Could someone point me to a URL or discussion on how to set it up?

Please note I tried setting it up in the past but it did not work so I ended up using Gateway6.

Thanks,
D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22650921 Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:42:38 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22650357 l0thar : cruisx, you are welcome. :)

Hope it all works out, it's amazing we can get this level and quality of service for free. I used to pay USD$13 a month for the same thing! ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22650357 Fri, 03 Jul 2009 15:35:37 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22650152 anon : excellent, really appreciate you kind help =) everything looks good and i think its gonna work form now on. thanks once again, this is great stuff. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22650152 Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:53:32 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22650154 l0thar :

said by ric11

:

Do I need to add the following 2 rows to the port proxy command as well because that is what is confusing me.

ipv6 rtu ::/0 2/::216.66.38.58 pub
ipv6 adu x/xxxx:xxx:xx:xx::x

No, you don't need these.

That's for the people using a different tunnel provider. Since you are using Gateway6, none of that is needed.

Only a port proxy if your newsreader has trouble with IPv6 addresses.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22650154 Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:48:12 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22650104 ric11 : Do I need to add the following 2 rows to the port proxy command as well because that is what is confusing me.

ipv6 rtu ::/0 2/::216.66.38.58 pub
ipv6 adu x/xxxx:xxx:xx:xx::x

I am using the Montreal server from gateway 6. I don't know where to get the information to put in after "rtu" and "adu". This is a foreign language to me.

Thanks again for the help.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22650104 Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:38:28 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22650023 l0thar :

said by ric11

:

I think I am only missing creating the .bat file. I understand I add the 3 netsh lines and then I think the last line is alt.binz but I don't know how or where to get the "show config" lines which would be the first 2 or 3 lines in the bat. Could someone please walk me through where to find that. This is a little beyond my IT skills but I think I am close. Thanks.

The "show config" is an option on the Tunnelbroker.net site (Hurricane Electric ip6 tunnel provider) that shows examples of the commands you need to type to get windows to work with their tunnel.

Since you are using the Gateway6 client, you DON'T need any of that. The Gateway6 client does all the work for you, and is generally a lot easier to use than tunnelbroker/HE tunnels.

All you will need is maybe a port proxy command to get alt.binz (or Grabit, or any other non-IPv6 supporting newsreader) to work.

cruisx wrote :

quote:
Oh ok i see, does the proxy command look liek this?

netsh interface portproxy add v4tov6 listenport=119 connectaddress=reader.ipv6.xsnews.nl connectport=119

and if so when do you run i? do you run it once? or when you start the program up?

cause i got it to work once but now everytime i start up newsleecher it keeps trying to connect but never does. I got it to work once =/ any ideas?

Yes, that's the port proxy command. Only difference is that in my case, I am using the listenport as 1119 - it seems to work better that way. So the command would be :

netsh interface portproxy add v4tov6 listenport=1119 connectaddress=reader.ipv6.xsnews.nl connectport=119

... and you configure your newsreader to connect to localhost, port 1119.

This command is permanent - I only had to use it once. I recall having some problems with it when using port 119 for both the ipv4 and ipv6 sides, but changing it like in the example above cleared it.

It's possible to add extra port proxies for other servers, for example, if you want to use eweka.nl as well as xsnews, you could type a port proxy command for that :

netsh interface portproxy add v4tov6 listenport=1120 connectaddress=news.ipv6.eweka.nl connectport=119

Detail here is the listenport HAS to be a different port number than the other, I am using 1120 for eweka. Configure the server on the newsreader accordingly - as localhost, port 1120.

Once you have that, you can have your newsclient use one or the other, or both servers if desired (not really needed for me, as xsnews maxes my connection).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22650023 Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:16:59 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22649582 El Quintron :

said by ric11

:

"SABnzbd needs a free tcp/ip port for its internal web server.
Port 8080 on localhost was tried , but it is not available.
Some other software uses the port or SABnzbd is already running."

Open up your task manager and kill the current instance of SABnzbd+ and launch it again.

If you're running Ubuntu use the one in the Repos because the one on the site has a python issue.

The one in the Repos has the workaround already included.
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netsh interface portproxy add v4tov6 listenport=119 connectaddress=reader.ipv6.xsnews.nl connectport=119

and if so when do you run i? do you run it once? or when you start the program up?

cause i got it to work once but now everytime i start up newsleecher it keeps trying to connect but never does. I got it to work once =/ any ideas?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22649545 Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:21:24 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22649517 ric11 : I tried loading SABZBD+ and I am getting

"SABnzbd needs a free tcp/ip port for its internal web server.
Port 8080 on localhost was tried , but it is not available.
Some other software uses the port or SABnzbd is already running."

and I can't seem to figure that out so I am using altbinz which works but I need to do the .bat file. The only thing I think I am missing in the .bat file are the following lines

ipv6 rtu ::/0 2/::216.66.38.58 pub
ipv6 adu x/xxxx:xxx:xx:xx::x

I am using the Montreal server from gateway 6. I don't know where to get the information to put in after "rtu" and "adu". This is a foreign language to me.

Thanks for all the help. I am going to have a few beers once this works.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22649517 Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:14:06 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22649224 emoci : I did this:

-Install Gateway 6
-Install SABZBD+
-Connect Gateway 6
-Load up SABZBD+ and enter the servers

That's it, download...no BAT file required...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22649224 Fri, 03 Jul 2009 11:15:50 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22648176 ric11 : I think I am close to getting this set up but missing one piece. I can get the gateway6 client to work and it connects okay and I can ping to prove. I have also been able to load alt.binz. The other tunnel providers and leechers are not working for me but that is okay because I think I have what I need.

I am running windows xp. I think I am only missing creating the .bat file. I understand I add the 3 netsh lines and then I think the last line is alt.binz but I don't know how or where to get the "show config" lines which would be the first 2 or 3 lines in the bat. Could someone please walk me through where to find that. This is a little beyond my IT skills but I think I am close. Thanks. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22648176 Fri, 03 Jul 2009 00:54:44 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22647945 l0thar : cruisx, I am running with 5 connections, XSnews seems to support larger number if needed.

Personally, I like alt.binz very much, it does all of the work including unpacking and deleting the .rar files after completed. See the features list at »www.altbinz.net/index.php?page=about

It doesn't support IPv6 directly, but I use the Windows port proxy command. If you enter it once, it stays on as a network configuration setting, no need to enter it again.

Other users here like and recommend sabnzbd+ - »www.sabnzbd.org/ , this one supports IPv6 natively.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22647945 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:26:17 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22647297 anon : also sorry for the double post, but what program works with IPv6 servers directly? whats the best one you recommend?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22647297 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:59:56 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22647101 anon : Looks like i got it figured out, solved my issue. Now just a Q, how many connections does xsnews support?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22647101 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:12:21 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22646721 l0thar :

said by cruisx :

I keep getting "cannot convert host address reader.ipv6.xsnews.nl " when trying the server with newsleecher, any ideas?

Uhm, just a guess but does newsleecher support IPv6 servers directly?

Some otherwise excellent newsreaders can't handle the funky ipv6 addresses directly - there are a couple of workarounds, described in this thread previously. Either use NT6tunnel.exe or window's own port proxy mechanisms.

On another note, wanted to mention a neat new thing. I really like the Gateway6 tunnel service best, compared to SixXs and HE tunnels I also tried.

Now, I discovered that if you set the 'Hexago Gateway6 Client' service to Automatic (via services.msc or control panel), it will connect to the tunnel server automatically when you boot Windows.

No need to manually start the Gateway6 client in this case - it's up and running as soon as Windows finish booting, I just fire up my Alt.Binz newsreader and go get the goodies. ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22646721 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:43:38 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22646029 anon : I keep getting "cannot convert host address reader.ipv6.xsnews.nl " when trying the server with newsleecher, any ideas?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22646029 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:29:25 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22637420 emoci :

said by l0thar

said by emoci

:

Of those eweka.nl works intermittently, xs4all.nl is a workhorse, xsnews.nl seems to have trouble, readnews.com
has worked a couple times.

:o I feel so stupid right now...

I was actually using the URL www.xsnews.com/ipv6/ as both user and pass... :p

PS. For anyone who did the same ...you need to enter an email here »www.xsnews.com/ipv6/ipv6_aanvraag.php and use that as your login/pass

Thanks l0thar!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22637420 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:52:04 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22632284 l0thar :

said by emoci

:

Of those eweka.nl works intermittently, xs4all.nl is a workhorse, xsnews.nl seems to have trouble, readnews.com
has worked a couple times.

Good list. :)

Personally, I use XSnews server all the time, and it maxes out my connection. You need to register an account with them (just enter an email address in the page you linked above will do)

Their retention is over 180 days now. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22632284 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 03:26:18 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22632192 anon : i have been using »www.newsrazor.net for a few months. havnt had any issues with it and it maxes out my 5mbit cxn. good cheap option if you dont like astraweb.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22632192 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:34:06 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22630960 emoci : BTW, I've been using these servers:

Eweka
Adress: news.ipv6.eweka.nl
Port: 119
Connections: 4
Speed: 20mbit
username: none
Pass: none
retention: 107 days

newszilla
Adress: newszilla6.xs4all.nl
Port: 119
Connections: 3
Speed: 150 kb/s
username: geen
Pass: geen
retention: 18 days

XS news
Adress: reader.ipv6.xsnews.nl
Port: 119
Username: »www.xsnews.com/ipv6/
Pass: »www.xsnews.com/ipv6/
Retention en complete guarantee: 107 days

freebin-auth.readnews.com
password: anything
Username: anything
threads : 8

Of those eweka.nl works intermittently, xs4all.nl is a workhorse, xsnews.nl seems to have trouble, readnews.com
has worked a couple times.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22630960 Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:56:26 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22630278 El Quintron : Here is a quick tutorial link I've just gotten for those of you who are interested...

»csg.trinhall.cam.ac.uk/tips/news/tbird
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I'm going to try it and see what it gives with Maybe run it side by side with Pan and upload a few Screenshots, I like TB for everything except email...
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said by Etheric

:

Has anyone been able to grab headers with any of the ipv6 servers?

Yes, just finished setting up Thunderbird as suggested by El Quintron, and downloaded headers for a group in TB, while alt.binz is busily getting nzbs pieces from another ipv6 server. :)

So, it works.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22630241 Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:45:18 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22629757 El Quintron : Actually I got another question for some of the more Savvy users...

Have any of you ever used Thunderbird for reading as opposed to leaching?

I ended up using TB for managing my non-Media RSS feeds so I was wondering if anyone was doing the same...
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it should look like this, if you choose toronto server

quote:
ipv6 install
ipv6 rtu ::/0 2/::216.66.38.58 pub
ipv6 adu x/xxxx:xxx:xx:xx::x
netsh interface portproxy add v4tov6 listenport=1119 connectaddress=news.ipv6.eweka.nl connectport=119
netsh interface portproxy add v4tov6 listenport=1118 connectaddress=newszilla6.xs4all.nl connectport=119
netsh interface portproxy add v4tov6 listenport=1120 connectaddress=reader.ipv6.xsnews.nl connectport=119
cd C:\Program Files\Grabit\Grabit.exe

this line
ipv6 adu x/xxxx:xxx:xx:xx::x
would be different , you should have a series of letter and numbers instead of xxxx

when you configure grabit, you have

eweka
Server adress:127.0.0.1,port: 1119

Newszilla6
server address: 127.0.0.1, port: 1118
username: geen
Pass: geen

xsnews
server address: 127.0.0.1, port: 1120
you also need to get a username /password
enter your email here
use »translate.google.com if you need to translate the page, it's in dutch

also when you try to connect, make sure you are still using the same ip you created the tunnel with]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22626131 Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:54:44 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22624492 l0thar :

said by Stumped

said by l0thar

:

I imagine it's a problem with the reader and handling IPv6 addresses.

GrabIt should be able to handle IPv6 addresses. I followed everything per this site (which was posted earlier in this thread) to set myself up:

»www.kaisersblog.com/2009/01/free···ng-ipv6/

I still think the same way - the blog post by Kaisersoze lists both Grabit and AltBinz as newsreaders - alt.binz being my favourite one and does not support IPv6 directly yet.

Looked at the Grabit homepage and knowledge base, a search for 'ipv6' did not find any results.

The Wikipedia newsreaders feature comparison page also does not show IPv6 in Grabit.

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison···_clients

So, as mentioned before, me thinks you need NT6tunnel.exe or Windows 6to4 port forwarding.

EDIT :

- Which tunnel service are you using?

You should test it right after you establish a connection - simply pinging the Google IPv6 page is quick and easy :

quote:
C:\Documents and Settings\l0thar>ping ipv6.google.com

Pinging ipv6.l.google.com [2001:4860:0:2001::68] from 2001:5c0:1000:a::1f7 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 2001:4860:0:2001::68: time=77ms
Reply from 2001:4860:0:2001::68: time=131ms
Reply from 2001:4860:0:2001::68: time=70ms
Reply from 2001:4860:0:2001::68: time=75ms

Ping statistics for 2001:4860:0:2001::68:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 70ms, Maximum = 131ms, Average = 88ms

If the ping doesn't work, or reaches the Google server via an IPv4 address, your tunnel is not working.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22624492 Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:06:06 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22624067 markj :

said by Stumped

said by l0thar

:

I imagine it's a problem with the reader and handling IPv6 addresses.

GrabIt should be able to handle IPv6 addresses. I followed everything per this site (which was posted earlier in this thread) to set myself up:

»www.kaisersblog.com/2009/01/free···ng-ipv6/

said by anynomous

:

your firewall (if any) maybe,

I've turned off my windows firewall and turned on IMP response in Tomato but I still can't get connected.

Help :(

try another newsreader prog...sabnzbd is working great for me]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22624067 Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:11:25 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22622476 Stumped :

said by l0thar

:

I imagine it's a problem with the reader and handling IPv6 addresses.

GrabIt should be able to handle IPv6 addresses. I followed everything per this site (which was posted earlier in this thread) to set myself up:

»www.kaisersblog.com/2009/01/free···ng-ipv6/

said by anynomous

:

your firewall (if any) maybe,

I've turned off my windows firewall and turned on IMP response in Tomato but I still can't get connected.

Help :(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22622476 Sat, 27 Jun 2009 23:50:05 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22622330 anynomous :

said by Stumped

:

GrabIt states that it's attempting to make a connection and then it fails

your firewall (if any) maybe, ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22622330 Sat, 27 Jun 2009 23:03:22 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22619971 l0thar :

said by Omr

:

Not sure about the others, but pretty sure eweka is not working for me anymore.

Tried just now :

quote:
Telnet news.ipv6.eweka.nl 119

201 news.ipv6.eweka.nl NNRP Service Ready - ipv6@eweka.nl (no posting).

So it's currently up and running... ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22619971 Sat, 27 Jun 2009 10:52:09 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22619959 l0thar :

said by Stumped

:

GrabIt states that it's attempting to make a connection and then it fails but says it's "closing down gracefully". What am I doing wrong? Please let me know what you need from me so I can test out news groups.

I imagine it's a problem with the reader and handling IPv6 addresses.

A lot of current news readers do not support ipv6 addresses directly - you need to use either:

- a tool like nt6tunnel.exe
- or window's own port redirection command

to make it work.

Take a look at previous pages in this threads, examples have been given for both methods. ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22619959 Sat, 27 Jun 2009 10:49:08 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22619770 Omr : Not sure about the others, but pretty sure eweka is not working for me anymore.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22619770 Sat, 27 Jun 2009 09:33:21 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22618972 Stumped : A noob here hoping to get some help setting up. I've registered with HE and have tunneled through. I've set up GrabIt for the various new servers,

news.ipv6.eweka.nl
newszilla6.xs4all.nl and
reader.ipv6.xsnews.nl

GrabIt states that it's attempting to make a connection and then it fails but says it's "closing down gracefully". What am I doing wrong? Please let me know what you need from me so I can test out news groups.

Thanks!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22618972 Sat, 27 Jun 2009 00:18:08 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22584692 corkyy : Your Mtu -20bytes = Ideal tunnel MTU]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22584692 Sat, 20 Jun 2009 21:15:34 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22584643 anynomous :

said by corkyy

:

There is also a MTU tweaking to do, IPV6 tunnel cost 20bytes, you need to adjust your tunnel MTU to not do too much packet fragmentation.

ok thanks
didn't know that
but since i get no problem downloading from xsnews, i don't think the incomplete files are mtu related.
probably due to their low retention period
anyway like you said xsnews is fast enough to full my 5mbps line
i just keep the other two as backup server]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22584643 Sat, 20 Jun 2009 21:00:15 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22583026 anon : do you have any suggestions for the MTU tweaking?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22583026 Sat, 20 Jun 2009 13:03:05 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22582185 corkyy : Newszilla =about 30days
Eweka about 120
Xsnews between 120-240, depending of the group.

Eweka and XSnews on a 100mbps server give me a 45mbps download, it's pretty good for something free.

Eweka or xsnews alone full my 5mbps dsl line.

There is also a MTU tweaking to do, IPV6 tunnel cost 20bytes, you need to adjust your tunnel MTU to not do too much packet fragmentation.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22582185 Sat, 20 Jun 2009 08:16:03 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22581201 anynomous :

said by l0thar

:

Just tried today and the eweka.nl server is up and running; thought of sharing that with the ipv6 fan group here. :)

don't know about today, but yesterday all the files downloaded from newszilla, were incomplete i had to use the par files to complete my download,
all files downloaded from XS news were 100% complete
so it's a good news if eweka is back
thanks for sharing ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22581201 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 23:01:36 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22580265 l0thar :

said by El Quintron

:

I can get the newszilla.nl server working but not the eweka.nl

Hei, El Q,

Just tried today and the eweka.nl server is up and running; thought of sharing that with the ipv6 fan group here. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22580265 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:31:54 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22577809 El Quintron : PS: The slack binairies are a collection of pictures, videos, podcasts, and archived casette radio shows of the Church of the Subgenius. (tm)

It's um, interesting, to say the least...

I couldn't really say that I "get it" because I've read both books, and my friend is a patron saint of their church...

Here are the links if you care to venture there:

»www.subgenius.com

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_···ubGenius
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I knew the group was available on Tek, and on Astraweb, I just couldn't find it on the binairy indexers... but you sorted that out for me.

Rockin!
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Hope this helps, sorry if it's not what you are after:

»www.usenet-replayer.com/opennews···ack.html

»www.binsearch.info/browse.php?se···ia.slack

»www.binsearch.info/index.php?q=s···ostdate=

I just successfully downloaded some files from tekks server, ie:

"the kpfa subgenius show - best of the 80's vol. 3 - 09"

Although, I am not sure what's going on in the show? Seems really,...kinda..........

[speech trails off as he listens to more of.......whatever this is....]

[EDIT]:

Wikipedia Entry

Pat Condell - YouTube Religious Satirist

Obligatory Rick Video --- Don't Click This

.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22574751 Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:11:08 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22574024 El Quintron : Ok so I *finally* hooked up Astraweb last night... it's soooo insanely fast, even compared to the IPv6 servers...

Here's question: how would I get the nzb files, from groups that usually aren't on NZB indexers?

Specifically the Subgenius stuff (alt.binaries.multimedia.slack)

I can't find it on Newsleech, is there a way to hook the group up in SABnzbd+?

Like enter the newsgroup address and have it leech the content?
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im also wondering if anyone has been able to access hulu through one of these tunnel services? i guess you would pick a us based server and enter your ipv6 info into your browser?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22572343 Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:48:23 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22567127 l0thar :

said by markj

:

so after using this free ipv6 servers for awhile now the only downside i see is that the tunnel gets messed up when your ip changes but that not too big of a deal to fix...

That is only a problem if you are using the Tunnelbroket.net (Hurricane Electric) tunnel servers. You need to manually enter your new IP anytime it changes. (and I do prefer the anonymity of a dynamic one)

Using any kind of access client (like Gateway6, or SixXs's aiccu) takes care of that, since it goes thru the NAT on it's own and grabs current ip address.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22567127 Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:57:17 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22567038 El Quintron : I use the tunnel anonymously, so I don't think it needs to keep track of my ip, I managed to keep the same static IP in the carryover anyways.
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i think im getting a new ip a lot lately cause of the server changing teksavvy is doing....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22566952 Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:29:35 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22565081 El Quintron : Good to know thanks for getting back to me.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22565081 Wed, 17 Jun 2009 10:09:46 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22564955 oxfordwhite : I was having issue, randomly while on TSI, however since I had a chance to do some investigation, I believe it to be the W7 box. Any other machine gets 4Mbps with my TSI. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22564955 Wed, 17 Jun 2009 09:50:53 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22561566 El Quintron : I like the reviews and the free SSL...

You have to pay for it with other providers.
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Working to bring you closer to a Bell and Rogers free household.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22561566 Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:04:57 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22561533 anon : Just another datapoint for the discussion: I've had the Astraweb $11/month package for a few months now, and it consistently pins both my TekSavvy lines in MLPPP mode: sustaining more than 900KB/s. I'm using hellanzb on Linux, fed by a RSS/NZB feed program running on Windows. I haven't tried any other Usenet provider, but Astraweb gets 2 thumbs up from me!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22561533 Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:00:57 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22560876 El Quintron : To clarify; you're having speed issues on Astraweb with TSI internet; or you're having speed issues on Astraweb with all internet providers?
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If nothing happens within a week then I will start investigating. On my cogeco i get line rate, same with at schools... (70-85 Mbits with SSL) and I dont even know if I have maxed their line.

I usually do SSL to 443 and no issues with FW or shaping.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22560458 Tue, 16 Jun 2009 14:00:20 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22559691 l0thar : El Quintron, great news - good to know you got it working. :)

Big kudos for corkyy, who mentioned the ipv6 free news servers and got me interested in learning about it.

I am quite happy with them too, and did not renew my paid service from XLNews this month - free is best, always.

The Eweka.nl server is iffy, I had trouble connecting to it, and found forums mentioning it being offline for days at a time in different dates. So, I don't bother trying it at all anymore.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22559691 Tue, 16 Jun 2009 11:54:00 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22559049 El Quintron : @l0thar and corkyy

I have hooked up the IPv6 on Ubuntu through TSPC and it works great.

I can get the newszilla.nl server working but not the eweka.nl

I'm getting speeds of about 486KB/s on newszilla!

You guys rock, I just wish SABnzb+ would get its python shit sorted out for a clean shutdown but that's another story...

:)
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I can deal with the TSI account it's a good compromise when my Fiancee is torrenting up a storm, and I need to download.

I get the max from the TSI account and she gets the Max from torrent and we're both happy.

I am going to set up the IPv6 servers as I'm getting more and more content from Usenet.

You've been indispensible for this thread!
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The TSI one is pretty limited by the speed (1 Mb/s max, ~120 KB/s download) but I get maxed out using some of the free IPv6 servers.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22527402 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 11:31:20 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22527191 El Quintron : If I get this setup I may never have to get an astraweb account.

I'll have TSI Newsgroup access and IPv6 access...

Maybe I'll get Astraweb anyways though...
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said by El Quintron

:

Can all the portforwarding be done through tomato rather than windows?

I don't think so - as we are using a tunneled IPv6 connection, only the end points (tunnel server and your client machine) know about it, to all routers in between all they see is an IPv4 data stream.

SABnzb+ can natively support IPv6 servers, from what I have read. Can't guarantee it, as I have never used it yet.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22527048 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 10:37:11 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22526665 El Quintron : Can all the portforwarding be done through tomato rather than windows?

(I don't have any windows production machines)

So In tomato: Forward IPv6 Port from IP of the machine...

In SABnzb+: Add IPv6 Newsgroup server

edit to add:I'm not really worried about the tunneling utility, I'm just wondering if the forwarding can be done through Tomato]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22526665 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:22:31 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22526598 l0thar : Yes, sure, here it is

quote:
If you don't have a IPv6 capable news client (eg: Outlook Express) then download NT6Tunnel or a similar port forwarder and use:

C:\Programs\Net>nt6tunnel -v 1119 newszilla6.xs4all.nl

Now you can setup your News Agent to use the server at localhost and you are off as
the nt6tunnel program will simply forward your connection over IPv6 allowing you access to the news.

On Windows XP and up the 'netsh' command allows the creation of portforwards too:

netsh interface portproxy add v4tov6 listenport=1119 connectaddress=newszilla6.xs4all.nl connectport=119

^---- the whole netsh command is in a single line, the forum here shows it split in two due to the line's length.

These two examples would forward ipv6 traffic from the news server (at the regular port 119) to localhost, port 1119.

You set up the client to connect to localhost, port 1119, and it all should work.

NT6tunnel runs in a command line window, and you need to leave that open until you finish your session downloading.

The netsh command can be typed in a command line window as well, or run from a script file (.cmd or .bat works fine). The window can be immediately closed, as the netsh sends the port forward to Windows networking core and it stays in effect until you delete that port forward.

I have found it works BEST if you use different port addresses, like in the example - the newsserver is listening at the regular port 119 (and we can't change that); so we change the local port (to 1119 in the example), that seems to make it work well in netsh. I had some trouble with netsh at first, I think the different port number fixes it.

Exqample quoted above is from »www.sixxs.net/misc/coolstuff/

Good luck! :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22526598 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:07:44 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22523565 ddasilva99 : I think I have a problem with port forwarding. Could you please provide me with a sample?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22523565 Tue, 09 Jun 2009 17:47:34 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22520328 l0thar :

said by ddasilva99

:

Thank you for your post. How are you accessing the Usenet servers? By the Usenet server IP or do you have it port forwarded using Windows (127.0.0.1:1119 = usenet.server.com)?

Since the news reader I use (alt.binz) does not support IPv6 directly yet, I use either :

- NT6tunnel utility, got it from SixXs site; »www.sixxs.net/archive/tools/NT6tunnel.zip

- or the native port forwarding in Windows (which is nicer, imo).

So, yes, I do remap my client to localhost, port 1119 being the newsserver.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22520328 Tue, 09 Jun 2009 09:00:45 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22515268 El Quintron : The information you're giving should be on two different lines in your downloading tool.

"127.0.0.1:1119 =/= usenet.server.com"

127.0.0.1:1119 is local to your machine or home network.

usenet.server.com (or another provider) would be the address of the usenet provider.

As previously stated the IPv6 providers would be different providers.
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said by ddasilva99

:

I am behind the WRT54GL router. When I input the commands to create my IPv6 link to HE, should I be entering my 192.168 address assigned to my computer or the WAN IP?

In most cases, it should work with the public IP (the one the router uses to connect to Internet).

The main problem seems to be how to get thru the router - I had it working, if placing my system on the DMZ, although I don't like that idea too much. :(

It could require you to enabling the router to allow ping (ICMP response allowed), and same on your Windows machine firewall.

Some here report it working with only enbling icmp on Tomato routers, I haven't had luck with that.

Gateway6 client is a sure way to get connected without all the fiddling too. ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22510930 Sun, 07 Jun 2009 13:19:57 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22504124 ddasilva99 : Hello,

I continue to experience problems connecting to an IPv6 newsgroup using a HE tunnel.

I am behind the WRT54GL router. When I input the commands to create my IPv6 link to HE, should I be entering my 192.168 address assigned to my computer or the WAN IP?

THanks,
D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22504124 Fri, 05 Jun 2009 19:50:07 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22455570 l0thar :

said by ddasilva99

:

Thanks for your post. I am up and running using the Gateway6 client. Did anyone get their IPv6 setup working with using a client and using HE tunnel? If so, I would appreciate your help setting up my connection.

The HE tunnel has to be manually 'enabled', unfortunately :

- visit their site and update your local IP if you have a dynamic one.

- enter the commands for your particular operating system (following the examples they provide)

...and you should get connected.

As long as there's no NAT in the way, or something blocking ping messages from their server to verify your IP is still there and active.

If power goes out, modem hiccups, disconnects, etc, repeat the whole boring process, unfortunately. :(

If Gateway6 client, or even the SixXs aiccu client worked with HE, it would be great. They are very generous in providing very free access, and many servers to chose from.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22455570 Wed, 27 May 2009 23:04:30 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22451040 corkyy : And how to figure out what is behind this "zed1271"
With an nfo it's easy, but this is not always the case.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22451040 Wed, 27 May 2009 10:56:12 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22450873 anynomous :

said by corkyy

:

Do newzbin free account are usefull?

i use »www.binsearch.info/ to search for files, then create a nzb, then load the nzb in grabit,
no need to do any update or reseach with your graber
there is probably tons of other search site, but in general i found what i need with binsearch.info]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22450873 Wed, 27 May 2009 10:27:31 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22450694 corkyy : Just a follow up, I change the stupid ovh built kernel (ipv4 only) on my OVH server, I hit easy 30-50mbps, stable :)

Edit with the 3 free server I gave before on the thread

I think there might be some optimisation concerning the tunnel MTU on adsl connection. The default tunnelbroker MTU is 1480, and it's too big, there is 20bytes overhead and, using mlppp, our mtu is 1487.

It would be great if someone knowing MTU setting could help us on this one ;)

Edit2 forgot something, Do newzbin free account are usefull? I know it can't create nzb, but it's easy to found it on the free newzleech with the filename. I don't want to pay for this, as same for newsgroups access ;) But, if a free account can make my life easier searching full bluray on usenet, why not.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22450694 Wed, 27 May 2009 09:55:09 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22441392 El Quintron :

said by brad

said by El Quintron

:

Before I put my foot in my mouth again by making a premature judgement about graboid, I'll say this...

NNTP (usenet protocol) is not blocked by Bell's Throttle yet. Probaly because it uses less bandwith... but it's probably tougher to block without due to not being a TCP or UDP protocol either.

Foot in your mouth..

NNTP is very easy to block if so desired and it is a TCP protocol.

See bolded characters...

I didn't pretend to be an expert... I'm assuming that blocking/throttling NNTP would cause more grief to Bell than good...
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said by El Quintron

:

Before I put my foot in my mouth again by making a premature judgement about graboid, I'll say this...

NNTP (usenet protocol) is not blocked by Bell's Throttle yet. Probaly because it uses less bandwith... but it's probably tougher to block without due to not being a TCP or UDP protocol either.

Foot in your mouth..

NNTP is very easy to block if so desired and it is a TCP protocol.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22441343 Mon, 25 May 2009 16:06:01 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22440819 El Quintron : Before I put my foot in my mouth again by making a premature judgement about graboid, I'll say this...

NNTP (usenet protocol) is not blocked by Bell's Throttle yet. Probaly because it uses less bandwith... but it's probably tougher to block without due to not being a TCP or UDP protocol either.
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said by ddasilva99

:

Could you please send me your batch file so I can take a look?

what batch file do you want, where is it located,
i cannot find any .gba file on my pc
did you install the 3 servers, because yesterday, i add problem connecting to eweka, but newszilla6 and xsnews were working fine

update: ok created a batch, what is your e-mail (by pm)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22440480 Mon, 25 May 2009 12:27:31 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22440361 El Quintron : My bad, one of the commenters was talking about Giganews links so there may some usenet in there, ~~but its not 100% usenet...~~ my bad again

It seems like a content aggregator of some sort...
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I moved my computer to DMZ and the problem persists. Could you please send me your batch file so I can take a look?

Here is the error i got in SAB
2009-05-24 23:54:45,062 ERROR [newswrapper] Failed to connect: (10061, 'Connection refused') 1@localhost:1119

Thanks,
D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22438769 Sun, 24 May 2009 23:48:27 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22438578 anynomous : i do
using grabit and tunnelbroker.net
just follow the tutorial on
»www.kaisersblog.com/2009/01/free···ng-ipv6/

if you have a router and/or firewall you might have to configure them properly to allow traffic.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22438578 Sun, 24 May 2009 23:01:49 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22436796 ddasilva99 : Thanks for your post. I am up and running using the Gateway6 client. Did anyone get their IPv6 setup working with using a client and using HE tunnel? If so, I would appreciate your help setting up my connection.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22436796 Sun, 24 May 2009 13:40:58 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22436792 markj :

said by ddasilva99

:

Hi Mark,

Did you use the instructions in the URL in my post?
localhost 119 does not work.

I am not typing anything in the user/pass field either.

Cheers,
D

im using 'reader.ipv6.xsnews.nl' as host and 119 as port...of course you need a login/pword too...read the complete thread to find the url for getting the login/pass]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22436792 Sun, 24 May 2009 13:39:47 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22436724 ddasilva99 : Hi Mark,

Did you use the instructions in the URL in my post?
localhost 119 does not work.

I am not typing anything in the user/pass field either.

Cheers,
D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22436724 Sun, 24 May 2009 13:21:19 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22436698 markj :

said by ddasilva99

:

Hi Everyone,

I am new to usenet. I have registered a HE tunnel and followed the instructions found here: »www.kaisersblog.com/2009/01/free···ng-ipv6/

When I open SABnzbd it says it cannot connect to the server. If I am trying to connect to reader.ipv6.xsnews.nl which address/port should I use?

reader.ipv6.xsnews.nl:119
localhost:1120

Please note I am able to telnet localhost 1120 and see a black screen so it appears I am making a connection to the server?

Thanks,
D

you should use port 119 like i posted above - not 1120]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22436698 Sun, 24 May 2009 13:11:36 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22436401 ddasilva99 : Hi Everyone,

I am new to usenet. I have registered a HE tunnel and followed the instructions found here: »www.kaisersblog.com/2009/01/free···ng-ipv6/

When I open SABnzbd it says it cannot connect to the server. If I am trying to connect to reader.ipv6.xsnews.nl which address/port should I use?

reader.ipv6.xsnews.nl:119
localhost:1120

Please note I am able to telnet localhost 1120 and see a black screen so it appears I am making a connection to the server?

Thanks,
D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22436401 Sun, 24 May 2009 11:29:56 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22435746 anon : I'm having a problem running this command using HE's tunnelling service: netsh interface ipv6 add v6v4tunnel IP6Tunnel [client ip] [server ip], it gives me an error message: "You were not connected because a duplicate name exists on the network. If joining a domain, go to System in Control Panel to change the computer name and try again. If joining a workgroup, choose another workgroup name."

It worked the first time I set the ipv6 interface up, but after getting a new ip and having to set it up again it seems like there's some kind of association in my system that needs to be reset. Anyone have any ideas how I could fix this?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22435746 Sun, 24 May 2009 02:41:22 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22431202 markj :

said by l0thar

:

Mark,

From what I have read on the net, SAB suppoorts ipv6 traffic directly, so you should be able to enter the ipv6 news servers URLs into it, instead of localhost (and use portproxy to bridge v6 to v4 traffic).

Give it a try, comment out that line and change the server url, if it doesn't work it will say it can't connect.

is there any setting you have to give SAB for using ipv6? its not connecting for me directly to ipv6 address...my script is like this:

ipv6 install
ipv6 rtu ::/0 2/::216.66.38.58 pub
ipv6 adu 2/2001:470:1c:71::2

edit: got it working was using the wrong port has to be 119 - seems like im getting slightly faster speeds via this way...like 20k/sec better cause there must be overhead to the portproxy way]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22431202 Fri, 22 May 2009 21:39:36 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22428046 l0thar :

said by El Quintron

:

I think Gateway6 will be my first candidate... I have a question are there any of these that don't require a lot of personal info?

Head on to the client download page : »go6.net/4105/download.asp , there's a linux build or you can get the source code and compile if you prefer.

Freenet6 can be used Anonimously, and works just fine that way. Or you can register with them.

Stay away from SixXs.net - I thought they would have better performace, and had to volunteer a lot of personal information to be able to get an account. Not worth it, their server gives me a lot more lag (at least 100ms more, compared to either Freent6 or Tunnelbroker/Hurricane Electric tunnels).

I am considering requesting my account there be deleted. Tunnelbroker/HE is the most flexible, and they give you examples of the commands you need to type to get connected via your tunnel there. There's no client, it's done via operating system routing commands only.

But nobody beats the ease of use of the Freenet6 client, and I am getting performance that is just as good as the HE tunnels.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22428046 Fri, 22 May 2009 11:47:13 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22427962 El Quintron : Awsome that only thing I have to do is translate all of this into Ubuntu terms, which is why I was asking about Mirego earlier on.

I think Gateway6 will be my first candidate... I have a question are there any of these that don't require a lot of personal info?
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From what I have read on the net, SAB suppoorts ipv6 traffic directly, so you should be able to enter the ipv6 news servers URLs into it, instead of localhost (and use portproxy to bridge v6 to v4 traffic).

Give it a try, comment out that line and change the server url, if it doesn't work it will say it can't connect.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22425262 Thu, 21 May 2009 21:23:49 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22425120 markj : im using SAB but still use this in my script:

netsh interface portproxy add v4tov6 listenport=119 connectaddress=newszilla6.xs4all.nl connectport=119

what would a setup look like for native ipv6 look like then (using SAB)? would it just be a matter of plugging in 'newszilla6.xs4all.nl' instead of localhost?

also to the guys wanting to use multiple servers - im not sure what kind of connection you have but the above server maxes out my connection so unless its down i wont need another server...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22425120 Thu, 21 May 2009 20:57:36 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22424721 l0thar :

said by El Quintron

:

I'm fairly new to all of this but assuming I hooked up with Gateway6, used The TSI servers as well, could I combine them all in SABnabd+ seeing as it supports multiple servers?

That should work just fine. ;)

Th TSI one will be slower than the others, but can be a backup server in case some files are damaged, etc.

Haven't used SAB myself, I run alt.binz which is also fully automated, small and fast.

SAB has an advantage in that it directly supports IPv6 addressing, unlike alt.binz and many other popular readers.

If your favourite app doesn't support ipv6 directly, you can use one of two solutions to make it connect :

- by using nt6tunnel :

If you don't have a IPv6 capable news client (eg: Outlook Express) then download
NT6Tunnel or a similar port
forwarder and use:

C:\Programs\Net>nt6tunnel -v 119

Now you can setup your News Agent to use the server at localhost and you are off as
the nt6tunnel program will simply forward your connection over IPv6 allowing you access to the news.

Or use the native ipv6 support in modern Windows systems, via netsh commands :

On Windows XP and up the 'netsh' command allows the creation of portforwards too:

netsh interface portproxy add v4tov6 listenport=119 connectaddress=newszilla6.xs4all.nl connectport=119

Both quotes above from SixXs's Cool IPv6 Stuff page : »https://www.sixxs.net/misc/coolstuff/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22424721 Thu, 21 May 2009 19:35:57 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22423771 El Quintron : I'm going to get Astraweb for sure, but what would be hot is this:

SABnzbd+ Client...

Server 1: TSI Usenet Servers
Server 2: Astraweb Usenet Servers
Server3: IPv6 newsgroup servers
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And at school... well up to 70+Mbits/sec with SSL overhead. I do not know exactly how many connection threads are needed to saturate here...

I do have to laugh at some of the torrenters stuck at KB/sec instead of MB/sec on campus.

Avg... at home 40gb/1.5hours-2hours]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22423533 Thu, 21 May 2009 15:35:09 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22423179 markj :

said by corkyy

:

I have it working behind tomato, with no particular rule at all, no dmz. Just ICMP not filtered on computer and router...

+1 same with me and yes im using the hurricane electric tunnel with reader.ipv6.xsnews.nl...didnt do anything in tomato except check allow ICMP ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22423179 Thu, 21 May 2009 14:44:41 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22423105 El Quintron :

said by corkyy

:

Well... I use TSI usenet with those two free ipv6 usenet provider

# newszilla6.xs4all.nl:119 no l/p 3threads

# news.ipv6.eweka.nl:119 no lp 4 threads

I'm fairly new to all of this but assuming I hooked up with Gateway6, used The TSI servers as well, could I combine them all in SABnabd+ seeing as it supports multiple servers?

The reason I'm asking is that I'd be using IPv4, and IPv6 servers in the same client...

Your thoughts again Usenet Wizards?

:D

edit for clarity]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22423105 Thu, 21 May 2009 14:29:16 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22422304 corkyy : I have it working behind tomato, with no particular rule at all, no dmz. Just ICMP not filtered on computer and router... ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22422304 Thu, 21 May 2009 12:11:07 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22422285 l0thar :

said by markj

:

my tunnel is still working great with the tomato firewall enabled...

Is this the Tunnelbroker (Hurricane Electric) connection, Mark?

I could get it working, but only by placing my system in the DMZ of the modem/router, or by stablishing a direct ppp connection (bypassing the router that way).

Protocol 41 is the problem, me thinks, and it's hard to find a way to let it thru the firewall via settings.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22422285 Thu, 21 May 2009 12:07:37 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22422157 markj : my tunnel is still working great with the tomato firewall enabled...getting 480k/sec]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22422157 Thu, 21 May 2009 11:43:59 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22419257 l0thar : Thanks, corkyy!

I rebooted into another op. system to try again, and got it working now. :)

Just configured a new tunnel with HE, and it's working at full speed, just like the Freenet6 for my news download.

Did move my system into the DMZ in the router, for testing at least, although i would prefer not to leave it there.

But you got to test things out. :p

Amazing how simple it is to get an HE tunnel and connect, on this windows 20003 server the netshell commands are instantaneous, substantially faster than in my usual xp64 environment.

I like the simplicity of it too - no client software needed, no funky TAP drivers, no 'virtual network adapters' complaining about a cable being unplugged. :uhh:

Got to see if I can change back to a more firewalled mode and still keep it going.

EDIT: got my system off the DMZ, and it's still working fine with HE tunnel - this is nice. :) :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22419257 Wed, 20 May 2009 19:35:42 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22418985 corkyy : Hi l0thar,

Make sure ICMP is not blocked on the computer (firewall, AV, windows firewall) and on the router also, you "may" look unreachable...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22418985 Wed, 20 May 2009 18:40:26 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22418953 l0thar :

said by El Quintron

:

I've been looking into this casually but can this be done (ipv6 usenet) with Mirago/Terego type of stuff?

Check the forum posts above, some of us used different methods to connect, and found posts elsewhere with detailed install/configure information.

Setting up Gateway6 is so easy I would recommend it to anyone with some curiosity; you can have it running in a very short time. ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22418953 Wed, 20 May 2009 18:33:16 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22418938 l0thar : hei, corkyy,

Yes, I have tried using the netsh commands (for Windows machines) from the Tunnelbroker page. Did nto work for me, although it might be due to my system having a lot of services disabled, etc for best performance.

I should try it again, from my laptop or another machine in the house.

Wow, you are really close to the Toronto HE server. It takes me 11 hops to reach montreal.freenet6.net. It's 13 hops to the SixXs server I use as access point.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22418938 Wed, 20 May 2009 18:30:30 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22418757 El Quintron : Hey guys,

I've been looking into this casually but can this be done (ipv6 usenet) with Mirago/Terego type of stuff?
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Under windows or linux?

Tunnelbroker have a way better latency in my case, TSI being located in torix and the tunnel is in the building, about 0.5-4ms added.

Keep in mind I'm from Laval,QC so there is 20ms added, and my line is fully loaded.

Tunnelbroker Toronto server

Freenet6 Mtl server, might be an excellent choice for people with MTL based isp.

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22418622 Wed, 20 May 2009 17:29:43 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22418540 l0thar :

said by anynomous

:

xsnews.com isn't working for me 502 error

nevermind, my mistake, you have to sign up to get username /password
now it's working i get +/-500k (connection max) with 5 thread each server

XSnews server absolutely rocks! :)

On the setting up ipv6 front - I have obtained a new SixXs account (a lot more complicated, you have to disclose personal information, etc).

Was expecting it to be better than the so-easy to setup, no hassles Gateway6 (Freenet6) account. Turns out I was wrong!

- I get much better speeds from any of the ip6 news servers via Gateway6 connection. (220 KB/s sixxs, ~280+ KB/s via Gateway6)

- The latency is a lot better too :

xsnews.nl, latency via G06 around 150 ms; latency via SixXs - 250 ms or worse. :(

Never got TunnelBroker (Hurricane Electric) to work for me yet, but Gateway6 is the best so far. Really easy setup and connectivity, no hassle to create accounts or tunnels, works faster, top speed.

And we access it via Montreal's gateway, avoiding a trip to the USA located points of presence that SixXs is offering today (that trip might explain the extra latency and lower performance for me).

Gateway6's locations are very handy for us Canadians, one server in Montreal, the other in Amsterdam, really close to those nice ipv6 free nntp servers.

Gateway6 is Highly recommended. Forget about SixXs.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22418540 Wed, 20 May 2009 17:15:01 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22411934 anynomous :

said by anynomous

:

xsnews.com isn't working for me 502 error

nevermind, my mistake, you have to sign up to get username /password
now it's working i get +/-500k (connection max) with 5 thread each server]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22411934 Tue, 19 May 2009 14:34:00 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22411344 anynomous : just tried the ipv6 free newsgroup, works well, only concern i have, i couldn't create a tunnel with tunnelbroker, until i turned on
"Respond To ICMP Ping" in my routeur,
i have a wrt54g with tomato firmware,
is it safe to turn on icmp ping?
anyway thanks for all the info given on the free news server, right now i get about 380k speed with 7 threads,
xsnews.com isn't working for me 502 error]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22411344 Tue, 19 May 2009 12:52:32 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22406701 l0thar : TSI adds your new fixed IP to the allowed clients for their binaries newsserver.

they will give you details for the server name to use, it's a .teksavvy.com machine, that URL is redirected to a usenetserver.com one on the fly.

It's really simple on your side, no username or password required, just you being in the valid IP allows you in. ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22406701 Mon, 18 May 2009 15:02:02 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22406540 bomberman :

said by l0thar

:

No, you can use the news servers with a Dynamic IP.
Including the IPv6 ones.

Thanks for telling me.

Just so I know, if I get TSI's static IP + newsgroups, how do I get access to "http://www.usenetserver.com"? Does TSI give me a login/pass? Do I create one myself on the website?
They know to let me connect because of my new static IP?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22406540 Mon, 18 May 2009 14:37:06 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22406508 Fireblade : I'm splitting that Astraweb account with a friend, only pay $7.00/month and our paths rarely cross. I also recommend doing that. We used to split a giganews account back in the day when it was about $30/month.
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Including the IPv6 ones.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22406417 Mon, 18 May 2009 14:11:44 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22406078 bomberman : Thanks for the post, but it wasn't exactly what I meant.
Since I can't put anything into practice until later this evening (at work), my question was (is): is it as simple as opening SABnzbd+ and enterring the usenet address (#newszilla6.xs4all). I know this is a bad example because it's IPv6 and that includes using a tunneling website like »www.tunnelbroker.net or »go6.net

Do I need a static IP, in general, to use usenet/newsgroup. Can I test free servers that I find using my dynamic IP or will I have to call TSI to get a static IP first?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22406078 Mon, 18 May 2009 13:07:54 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22405996 l0thar :

said by bomberman

:

Can someone give me a link to another post in this forum where I could get a rundown on how to connect, how it works, etc... I'm sure someone on the forum posted something in the past.

Sure, it's just one page back on this very same thread : »Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22405996 Mon, 18 May 2009 12:44:14 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22405976 bomberman :

quote:
Well... I use TSI usenet with those two free ipv6 usenet provider

# newszilla6.xs4all.nl:119 no l/p 3threads
# news.ipv6.eweka.nl:119 no lp 4 threads

I full my 5mbps connection perfectly, eweka is uptp 20mbps on 4 threads.

If someone have others free Binaries NNTP servers, feel free to share

Edit »www.tunnelbroker.net toronto server is nice

I don't know that much about usenet/newsgroup, but I have read enough recently to give it a go.

I know I need a static IP with usenet/newsgroup access to connect to usenets via TSI, but is it the same deal with other newsgroups (like # newszilla6.xs4all.nl:119, # news.ipv6.eweka.nl:119)?
I already created an account on www.tunnelbroker.net to get IPv6 working, but does my IP need to be static to connect to them? I was planning on using SABnzbd+ for all my newsgroup needs.

Can someone give me a link to another post in this forum where I could get a rundown on how to connect, how it works, etc... I'm sure someone on the forum posted something in the past.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22405976 Mon, 18 May 2009 12:38:10 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22403028 morisato : Hes referring to the Canadian conversion price being 13.77 for signup i think Lothar ;)
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22403028 Sun, 17 May 2009 18:41:57 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22402960 venom999 : Anyone here use SABnzbd? I keep getting the error where I can't access the SABnzbd web interface using localhost:8080 or any other port. I've tried 127.0.0.1 as well. I'm trying this using ipv6 with the tunnelbroker account. I'm on XP SP3 and I've tried disabling my firewall. Anyone?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22402960 Sun, 17 May 2009 18:22:26 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22401488 brad :

said by l0thar

:

I have a working IPv6 connection, but the eweka server does not seem to accept connections anymore.

Have you got it to work? Maybe they have added a registration, or changed the port for it.

It definitely is accepting connections..

and I am able to connect with a news reader and pull down posts.
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22401488 Sun, 17 May 2009 10:15:45 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22401426 l0thar :

said by markj

:

...using the news.ipv6.eweka.nl:119 ipv6 server) on XP Sp2?

I have a working IPv6 connection, but the eweka server does not seem to accept connections anymore.

Have you got it to work? Maybe they have added a registration, or changed the port for it.

EDIT : just doing some reading, and retesting - got eweka working atm. :)

Getting about 150 KB/s with 3 or 4 connections.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22401426 Sun, 17 May 2009 09:41:33 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22401396 l0thar :

said by corkyy

:

Here is another free ipv6 server, it fill my 5mbps connection alone.

reader.ipv6.xsnews.nl XSNews 107 days 10 threads 20mbit/s signup at »www.xsnews.com/ipv6/

This provider rocks. ;)

Yesterday, doing some testing, I queued up and got a complete release posted 180 days ago.

Their website lists retention up to 185 days now, and it maxes my connection easily.

Incredible service for free. Thanks for mentioning them, corkyy. :)

I use the Hexago Gateway6 client, and it tunnels right thru my NAT in the modem no problems. Tried HE's server but it seems to require me to put their system either in the open net or in a router's DMZ, to allow protocol 41 connectivity.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22401396 Sun, 17 May 2009 09:27:51 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22391611 markj :

said by corkyy

thanks finally got this working...maxes out my 5mbps connection..really love the sabnzbd integration with newzbin...

followed this guide:

»www.kaisersblog.com/2009/01/free···ng-ipv6/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22391611 Thu, 14 May 2009 22:02:15 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22391606 elwoodblues :

said by SaveTheNet

:

Usenet does have its own weaknesses though.
No uploading, but you have PAR files to fix CRC errors.
Missing parts and the whole parts thing can get annoying
Sometimes you grab most of something just to find out a single piece is too old / gone and you have to wait for a PAR file to be upped just to fix the file or try again from the beginning.

Retention times are insane these days, I believe Astraweb is up to 270 days, if you need content that far back.. .

Tried a pay to have usenet for a bit and found myself back on torrents, not due to being lazy, but since usenet simply didn't work so well at all for what I was looking for.
Even with a huge >250 day retention.
I didn't try multiple providers though, just the 1 that was both high speed and insane retention times.

HD content was like, 10's of thousands of pieces and this lead to alot of waste when things were missing..

If UBB comes, I feel using IRC could make a much better solution.

I have been using Usenet almost from the day I hit the net, and I can say (with the exception of the pre-par days) that things are far better then torrents or any other scheme thats out there.

Even when I was on AOL, using my own Internet connection getting movies and music...
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»accounts.usenetserver.com/special/

(new customers/signups only, discount applies as long as your account stays active)

$10.00 -- 1 Month High-Speed Plus Auto-renewing

Unlimited Downloads
SSL Access
240+ Days of Binary Retention (spooling to 400)
365+ Days of Text Retention
20 Concurrent Connections
Referral Credits

Here's the usual prices:

3-Day Plan, starts at $3.00

1 Month High-Speed $14.95
3 Month High-Speed $39.95 ($13.32 per month)

1 Month High-Speed Plus $17.95
3 Month High-Speed Plus $47.95 ($15.98 per month)

The only real difference of regular vs plus is 10 connections instead of 20.

What makes these guys special is you can share your 10/20 connections (simultaneous logins from multiple ips).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22391528 Thu, 14 May 2009 21:46:24 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22391339 l0thar :

said by corkyy

:

Here is another free ipv6 server, it fill my 5mbps connection alone.

reader.ipv6.xsnews.nl XSNews 107 days 10 threads 20mbit/s signup at »www.xsnews.com/ipv6/

Thanks a lot - I got really itchy to try this out, tinkered around a bit and got it working now. Getting the full capacity of my 3Mb connection from them. :)

I tried tunnelbroker, but got better luck with the Gateway 6 client from »go6.net/4105/home.asp .

There some detailed info on setting up on this forum thread : »www.stompfest.com/forum/showthre···p?t=9208]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22391339 Thu, 14 May 2009 21:12:13 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22390227 markj :

said by corkyy

:

Here is another free ipv6 server, it fill my 5mbps connection alone.

reader.ipv6.xsnews.nl XSNews 107 days 10 threads 20mbit/s signup at »www.xsnews.com/ipv6/

I've test some tunnel provider, and the one performing best is »www.tunnelbroker.net/, with their toronto server located at torix.

To setup the tunnel (with HE) just go in you tunnel detail, and look for : Example OS Configurations (Windows, Linux, etc). So easy to setup. The best would be integrating this into tomato with radvd and such. It's possible under openwrt with a bit of work, but I prefer tomato.

agree it would be awesome to run this integrated into tomato firmware but are there any good tutorials on setting up www.tunnelbroker.net with SABnzbd (using the news.ipv6.eweka.nl:119 ipv6 server) on XP Sp2? ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22390227 Thu, 14 May 2009 17:12:01 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22390121 El Quintron : If it boiled down to choices, I would stick to SABnzbd+

I was asking about Hellanzb, and someone said I'd be better served by SABnzbd+ ... and they were correct, I started using it and I never looked back.

If you want point and click, you got it, you want full automation, you got it too.
--
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said by Sukunai

:

...but hey, why pay 30 bucks for something if you can get it for 13 bucks?

Indeed.

Why pay $13 when there's an Astraweb offer for USD$11 per month even ? :p

(link was posted earlier in this thread)

Corky, thank you for the info on IPv6, got to check it out, can't pass something so interesting. ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22390023 Thu, 14 May 2009 16:32:58 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22389986 Sukunai : What about Newsleecher?

Well my tech support like buddy uses it, that says all I need said. You get it free with unlimited Giganews. But it's good enough to pay the one shot fee if you are not with Giganews.

We have also decided to see if Astraweb is earning it's praise, and might be the new thing for us. I've enjoyed Giganews, but hey, why pay 30 bucks for something if you can get it for 13 bucks?

When retention exceeds 200 days, it becomes a bit silly to fuss over it. 245, 265 is there any real difference?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22389986 Thu, 14 May 2009 16:27:01 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22389900 El Quintron : What about it?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22389900 Thu, 14 May 2009 16:14:48 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22389871 ChampUz : What about newsleecher?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22389871 Thu, 14 May 2009 16:09:35 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22389076 corkyy : Here is another free ipv6 server, it fill my 5mbps connection alone.

reader.ipv6.xsnews.nl XSNews 107 days 10 threads 20mbit/s signup at »www.xsnews.com/ipv6/

I've test some tunnel provider, and the one performing best is »www.tunnelbroker.net/, with their toronto server located at torix.

To setup the tunnel (with HE) just go in you tunnel detail, and look for : Example OS Configurations (Windows, Linux, etc). So easy to setup. The best would be integrating this into tomato with radvd and such. It's possible under openwrt with a bit of work, but I prefer tomato.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22389076 Thu, 14 May 2009 13:59:40 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22388402 markj : »https://accounts.usenetserver.com/special/

here is one special, $10/month unlimited...but what makes this one pretty good is you get 20 threads and they can be from different ips so you could share with a few people...

if anyone is interested in making a little group so we could split by say 3 this would be a much better deal than the $4 teksavy...i read that 3 threads will max out a typical dsl connection btw...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22388402 Thu, 14 May 2009 12:06:09 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22381223 l0thar : Tack, you are right, I was being a bit paranoid here.

TCP has the error checking in each packet, I think the sheer size of an 8GB http download shocked me a bit. :p

Have turned on ssl on my news connection now (XLned) and it is working very well.
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That's not to say Easynews has never had problems. But the problems I've experienced were never related to corrupt data.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22379312 Tue, 12 May 2009 19:02:47 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22379267 Fireblade : I agree Tack, even on my Cogeco connection which is excellent in reliability I get errors with my Usenet account. Every time that's happened, .par files were included with the files anyways, so I just repaired them and I was fine.
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I strongly doubt any errors you have with your downloads are due to bit errors that TCP didn't catch. MUCH more likely, you use pars to fix missing parts or incomplete parts. With the Easynews scheme, if the file was autounrared, it is verified on their end de facto.

And in any case, you can use https with easynews, and SSL intrinsically provides more resilience to datastream corruption. (But I maintain that's not needed in practice.)

HTTP regets are supported. If your fetch dies, just restart it and it continues where it left off. Any decent http transfer tool will take care of this. (I just use wget from my file server.)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22379153 Tue, 12 May 2009 18:32:31 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22379123 l0thar : Smaller rar files add error protection, my line is a bit noisy and I like the extra error correction. Any garbled bits on my end can be detected (by rar extractor) and fixed with the pars.

But if you have a pristine line, it could work as you describe. Never got a file that big via http, so I am a bit skeptic, but that's just me. I suppose with Flashget or a similar program it could work.

XLned doesn't seem to offer the feature you mentioned, just regular nntp server connections.
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I can't imagine what practical benefit downloading multiple small rar files provides. With a direct link to the unrared video, you just start the download and begin watching right away (provided the video bitrate is less than your downstream).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22379060 Tue, 12 May 2009 18:17:13 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22379032 l0thar :

said by Tack

:

Hypothetically speaking, being able to wget an 8G 1080p video and max out my (hypothetical) 1MB/s downstream is a killer feature. :)

That's one HUGE file, I would rather download it in smaller .rar pieces, and have par files to fix any errors (ie, use regular newsgroups process).

One single 8GB http dl? Pretty big, maybe you save some bandwidth if the decoding is done online, but... :huh:
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Hypothetically speaking, being able to wget an 8G 1080p video and max out my (hypothetical) 1MB/s downstream is a killer feature. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22378681 Tue, 12 May 2009 17:07:39 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22378602 l0thar :

said by TekSavvyMLPPP :

Although it said maximum 10GB download, but if you keep queueing to download non-stop, no disconnect, you can continue download for 2 days at your max ISP download speed... So depend on your download speed, you might get way over 10GB..

Thanks for the info, indeed I was in a continuous session and got more than the 10GB maximum mentioned in the registration page.

Service was good, all files completed. Nice trial. :)
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said by El Quintron

:

Thanks a lot guys, like I said, I'm just looking for comparisons between the Usenet that's included with TSI and the Pay Usenet Providers, looking for differences in performance and retention mostly.

For Comparison purposes :

** TSI Usenet : 1.0 Mb/s speed; 125 days retention. Your cost : $4.00 per month, plus 13% taxes = $4.52 a month(for the Fixed IP package)

** XLned : 2.5 Mb/s for Lite package; 220 days retention. Your cost : 2.99 Euros per month (less for 6 month prepaid), no taxes added. Works out to about $4.50 or so, Canadian dollars.

** AstraWeb : higher speeds (maxed out my 3 Mb/s connection easily); longer retention. Special price is USD$11.00 per month, no taxes added.

Astraweb is excellent, had them before. But XLned's price is the best I have seen.

imo, XLNed is a better usenet deal than TSI's usenet. (bear in mind you would get mlppp as part of signing up for TSI's fixed IP package).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22377912 Tue, 12 May 2009 14:56:38 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22377800 kcorscadden : I use Astraweb with the $11 US unlimited a month and I absolutely love it. Torrents are good for some stuff, but usenet 99% of the time has everything I want.

Also, Astraweb is moving up to 365 days of retention.
»helpdesk.astraweb.com/index.php?···ewsid=20

So you get a kick ass price and one of the best retention rates out there. The only thing that would be nice would be if they allowed multiple IP address logins at once, meaning more than one IP address can log in. I think Giganews allows this and maybe a few others.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22377800 Tue, 12 May 2009 14:39:17 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22377040 El Quintron : Thanks a lot guys, like I said, I'm just looking for comparisons between the Usenet that's included with TSI and the Pay Usenet Providers, looking for differences in performance and retention mostly.
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BUT - I came across an even BettER deal. :p

Reading the alt.binz forum, someone mentioned XLned, I went and found out and their offer is the best I have seen yet.

Full details of account types at »www.xlned.com/bestellen/ .

* 2.5 Mb/s Lite account, unlimited transfers, 220 days retention, is only an incredible 3 Euros per month (was CAD$4.60 at paypal exchange rates). Buy a 6 months block, and it's even less.

Being a new customer, I picked the 1 month to try them out, and the account was setup and running in minutes. the price is super, the best deal until now was AstraWeb for USD$11, this is way less money.

For my limited DSL speed, the 2.5Mb/s account will work just fine.

Goodbye mlppp, will not be needing it for Usenet. ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22376849 Tue, 12 May 2009 11:58:12 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22367734 ChampUz : So you can download Hd movies from Newsgroups? which one do most people use for movies and games?
thanks..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22367734 Sun, 10 May 2009 15:37:46 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22367733 anon : only 1 rule about usenet.

rule #1 - nobody talks about usenet.

so stfu already.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22367733 Sun, 10 May 2009 15:37:43 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22367550 MIghtyCicero : EDIT: Removed content. Sorry forgot to follow the rule #1... lol]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22367550 Sun, 10 May 2009 14:45:55 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22367482 ChampUz : Sorry , what is USENET? is it for reading news? or downloading movies and games?
Anyone please tell me
sorry i am a noob.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22367482 Sun, 10 May 2009 14:26:55 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22367409 anon :

said by l0thar

:

Trial account is limited to 2 days and a maximum of 10 GB download, still good to get some stuff and try it out.

Although it said maximum 10GB download, but if you keep queueing to download non-stop, no disconnect, you can continue download for 2 days at your max ISP download speed... So depend on your download speed, you might get way over 10GB..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22367409 Sun, 10 May 2009 14:03:51 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22367343 l0thar : Thanks for the info on XenNews, I am trying out the service with the free account and it works well. :)

Trial account is limited to 2 days and a maximum of 10 GB download, still good to get some stuff and try it out.
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»member.xennews.com/signup.php

You can skip the Payment information: don't need to enter any payment info...

You can enter any fake information like name, address...

Only need to enter the correct email address, User ID, password...

If you keep your computer running, queue, you can download for 2 days... You can configure to use more connections in order to download at your max ISP speed (this server doesn't have good download speed compare to other premium paid news server)...

After 2 days trial, if you're cheap, you can change your IP by rebooting your modem, or disconnect/connect your internet...

Signup again using different email, User ID...

After a while, you might change your mind and pay for cheap good news server deal like Astraweb $11 USD/month...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22365436 Sat, 09 May 2009 22:05:13 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22364450 l0thar :

said by markj

:

could you explain this a bit more...like what software are you using to get these speeds? can you just put those ipv6 server names into a program like SABnzbd?

Yeah, he got my attention with the FREE binaries service too. :p

Started reading a bit, you will need IP V.6 installed and working properly to get started. Might be a fun project for a lazy weekend?

The site someone linked to allows you to tunnel from the normal Internet (IP v.4) thru a tunnel (Hurricane Electric) and reach those sites.

Would like some pointers and tips myself too! ;)

Edit : TSI Usenet is up to 125 days retention, so it's not bad at all for the low cost of $4 (plus get MLPPP bundled).

Have used Astraweb myself, and can confirm they are top notch, no problems service.

UsenetServer.com (TSI's Usenet provider) wasn't on the same league when I tried the service for a couple months, but that was a while ago - hopefully they have improved.

The 1 Mb/s speed limit is reasonable, considering the low cost and the low limits for monthly bandwidth everywhere (yes, 200BG can go rather quickly at 120 KB/s usenet dls)

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said by corkyy

:

Well... I use TSI usenet with those two free ipv6 usenet provider

# newszilla6.xs4all.nl:119 no l/p 3threads

# news.ipv6.eweka.nl:119 no lp 4 threads

I full my 5mbps connection perfectly, eweka is uptp 20mbps on 4 threads.

If someone have others free Binaries NNTP servers, feel free to share ;)

Edit »www.tunnelbroker.net toronto server is nice

could you explain this a bit more...like what software are you using to get these speeds? can you just put those ipv6 server names into a program like SABnzbd?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22364390 Sat, 09 May 2009 17:04:53 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22359067 Sukunai : Everybody catches up eventually of course.

2 years ago it was impressive to hear of 60 days retention I suppose. Giganews currently has damn near a full years retention.

But one has to wonder, how old file can you need?

In recent time (this year), my actual need (where volume is concerned) has dramatically shifted. And to be honest, if I can't find anything to want, then the price of Giganews does tend to be a factor.

But I have not tried Astraweb, and thus can't compare really.
And as they say, if it isn't broke, don't fix it.

But it isn't 2005 any more, and my own personal needs have evolved.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22359067 Fri, 08 May 2009 12:52:32 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22355036 anon : I leeched off of freebin for years mostly french music but freebin went down when comcast lost their newsgroups. I'm on a shoestring budget and could never afford a real pay news server.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22355036 Thu, 07 May 2009 16:19:51 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22354953 El Quintron : Sounds awsome, I don't know anything about IPv6 though and I thought it was coming to TSI, but not here yet.

I've heard about it, OS X has been supporting it since 03, but I haven't done my research.

Can I do IPv6 at home or does TSI explicitly have to support it?
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this one]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22354914 Thu, 07 May 2009 16:01:02 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22354910 silvercat : On the Astraweb website, the plans that i notice are Unlimited and Unlimited DSL.

With Unlimited, the cost is $10/month U.S., but the download speed is limited to 1 mbit/sec. With Unlimited DSL, the cost is $15/month U.S., and there is no limit to download speed.

So i'm wondering which is the $11/month plan you guys are refering to. Is it the 1 mbit/sec limited one, or unlimited one, or is there a special offer not posted on their website ?

It also says on their site that retention is being upgraded to 365 days.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22354910 Thu, 07 May 2009 15:59:34 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22354881 corkyy : Well... I use TSI usenet with those two free ipv6 usenet provider

# newszilla6.xs4all.nl:119 no l/p 3threads

# news.ipv6.eweka.nl:119 no lp 4 threads

I full my 5mbps connection perfectly, eweka is uptp 20mbps on 4 threads.

If someone have others free Binaries NNTP servers, feel free to share ;)

Edit »www.tunnelbroker.net toronto server is nice]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22354881 Thu, 07 May 2009 15:53:20 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22354839 El Quintron : This offer is so good I almost signed up at work...

But then I'd have to pretend I was sick to go home and play with my big fancy Usenet subscription... it wouldn't go over well.

:p
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said by mlerner

:

I've used Astraweb for a few months now and previously Giganews. I don't see any difference in performance at all, I can max out my speed on both and Astraweb is much cheaper which is actually the only reason I switched.

I use astraweb too, got a promotional offer with them:

Astraweb
Retention: 270 days+
Compeltion: 99.9%
Connections: 20
Servers: EU/US
Unlimited: Yes
SSL: Free
Price: $11/month (Forever, no contract)
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I don't really want to make this a which paid server is best, but need to know if (any) paid service is worth it over the bundle.

I'm beginning to think it is.
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If you're going to use newsgroups (which I assume is the same as saying usenet but I might be wrong), then you should just go all the way and use Giganews. Because don't you deserve the best?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22354502 Thu, 07 May 2009 14:37:48 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22354338 El Quintron : Seeding is BitTorrent thing, I've never heard of seeding on Usenet...
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But, with TS cap, I invisioned waiting a day for something ..and if you want to seed back to retain your ratio, you have to be fast - or there are no 'takers' for your seed.
That's my reasoning..for what it's worth...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22353620 Thu, 07 May 2009 12:05:16 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22353588 El Quintron : However to Rephrase from Senior Usenet Users; if a Premium Provider worth the cost if I already have the StaticIP/Usenet bundle from TSI?

Bearing in mind I want to replace BT with Usenet.
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With usenet and my HD player it's good stuff.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22353536 Thu, 07 May 2009 11:47:10 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22353531 El Quintron : Just an FYI SaveTheNet

if you use something like HellaNZB or SABnzbd+ it eliminates the need for PAR, PAR2 and CRC errors.

The few times I've used Usenet, my only issues were with older files.
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No uploading, but you have PAR files to fix CRC errors.
Missing parts and the whole parts thing can get annoying
Sometimes you grab most of something just to find out a single piece is too old / gone and you have to wait for a PAR file to be upped just to fix the file or try again from the beginning.

Tried a pay to have usenet for a bit and found myself back on torrents, not due to being lazy, but since usenet simply didn't work so well at all for what I was looking for.
Even with a huge >250 day retention.
I didn't try multiple providers though, just the 1 that was both high speed and insane retention times.

HD content was like, 10's of thousands of pieces and this lead to alot of waste when things were missing..

If UBB comes, I feel using IRC could make a much better solution.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22353505 Thu, 07 May 2009 11:41:14 EDT Re: TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22353485 anon : Yes Astraweb is well worth the 11 US month. Also if bell gets shot down on the UBB crap usenet is great for downloading a shit-ton of stuff being as you don't have to upload anything back.

I use it to get all my HD stuff so I can play it on the WD media player.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22353485 Thu, 07 May 2009 11:37:29 EDT TSI Usenet vs. Paid Usenet http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22353464 El Quintron : Hello all,

In the past few months or so I've thought myself how to use Pan and SABnzbd+, and have used Usenet at infrequest intervals.

With the possible advent of UBB I'm considering switching to usenet full time so I can get the same amount of data, but with reduced bandwith cost. Right now I'm feeling pretty lazy which I why I keep using BitTorrent because I know it well.

Assuming I wanted to use Usenet full time, would I be better off with a premium usenet provider a la Astraweb?

For more seasoned users do you think Premium Usenet is a good deal?

I've also heard that some people keep TSI Usenet and buy blocks of Data for older stuff...

Any thoughts?
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