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prestonlewis
Premium,MVM
join:2003-04-13
Sacramento, CA

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reply to CoxuserLasVegas
Re: Magic Jacks practicality

It's cheap. What more can you want?


amigo_boy

join:2005-07-22
Tempe, AZ
·Cox HSI
·magicjack.com

reply to vintagewino
said by vintagewino See Profile :

I agree with zxt, just put an actual # of minutes/month of actual connect time, and stop being coy. What's average? What's 20X average? Is that whatever somebody feels like at the time?
The problem is that MJ makes money from incoming calls (termination fees). Outgoing calls are a pure loss. So, MJ's "excessive use" probably takes into consideration the ratio of incoming to outgoing.

Someone who makes 2000 minutes of outgoing calls will be more "excessive" than someone who makes 4000 minutes outgoing offset by receiving 4000 incoming.

I can accept that there aren't clear limits. But, there should be warnings. Some way to see where you stand. Like a thermometer, from green to yellow to red.

Mark

vintagewino

join:2003-07-22
Grimsby, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·magicjack.com
·Look Communications

reply to zxt
said by BlueMagic See Profile :

I believe that cutting off service was a glitch and is old news. From what I understand, magicJack no longer cuts off service if one exceeds a predetermined number of minutes. Even Skype allows 10,000 minutes per month on their 2.95 per month unlimited plan. It would not behoove magicJack to not be competitive with Skype.
said by zxt See Profile :

MJ should just put a cap on usage like Skype to save everyone else from guessing.

Assuming 30 days in a month, there are 43200 minutes in a month. If you use all of Skype's 10000 minutes, you're on the phone over 166 hours in a month.

I agree with zxt, just put an actual # of minutes/month of actual connect time, and stop being coy. What's average? What's 20X average? Is that whatever somebody feels like at the time?

zxt

join:2007-07-28
Los Angeles, CA
reply to amigo_boy
MJ should just put a cap on usage like Skype to save everyone else from guessing.


amigo_boy

join:2005-07-22
Tempe, AZ
·Cox HSI
·magicjack.com

reply to BlueMagic
said by BlueMagic See Profile :

I believe that cutting off service was a glitch and is old news. From what I understand, magicJack no longer cuts off service if one exceeds a predetermined number of minutes.
That's not true. I remember seeing a couple of reports of excessive use terminations a couple months ago. It sounded like it was handled better than the wave that hit in Oct. 2008. These people had a softphone ad telling them they'd been disconnected, and they could make domestic outgoing calls for 1 cent per minute (paid by purchasing international minutes).

The ToS was also updated to say excessive use is defined as 20x the average. But, no information about what the average is.

Mark


BlueMagic

join:2008-03-30

reply to zaldy
I believe that cutting off service was a glitch and is old news. From what I understand, magicJack no longer cuts off service if one exceeds a predetermined number of minutes. Even Skype allows 10,000 minutes per month on their 2.95 per month unlimited plan. It would not behoove magicJack to not be competitive with Skype.

zaldy

join:2007-12-07
·OneSuite

reply to coxuserlv
said by coxuserlv See Profile :

I'm just stating a fact. Because a lot of Filipinos who have relatives here in the US take advantage of magic jack's unlimited calling feature. I have a friend who has magic jack and she's based in the Philippines and I call her using my cell phone during weekends or during nights. I'm basically calling a number registered here in the US. That's the reason why it's practical for someone who has relatives here. They are able to save a lot of money on long distance calls. At the same time they can talk all day long if they want.

But if I plan to get a long distance service here in the US to make long distance calls to other states. I won't use magic jack. I'll just use my cellphone or subscribe to vonage.
You're the one calling them so you're the one saving NOT them. BTW, MJ users can not call out and stay all day long talking because in a few days their service might get cut off.

MJ isn't really "unlimited" just in case you still don't know -> »So anyone knows how many is "excessive" for MJ?

coxuserlv

join:2009-05-11
Las Vegas, NV

reply to PX Eliezer
I'm just stating a fact. Because a lot of Filipinos who have relatives here in the US take advantage of magic jack's unlimited calling feature. I have a friend who has magic jack and she's based in the Philippines and I call her using my cell phone during weekends or during nights. I'm basically calling a number registered here in the US. That's the reason why it's practical for someone who has relatives here. They are able to save a lot of money on long distance calls. At the same time they can talk all day long if they want.

But if I plan to get a long distance service here in the US to make long distance calls to other states. I won't use magic jack. I'll just use my cellphone or subscribe to vonage.


prestonlewis
Premium,MVM
join:2003-04-13
Sacramento, CA
reply to CoxuserLasVegas
MJ uses a higher bandwidth codec (g711u) which can sometimes not work well with other countries. If MJ works then great. If not, you might want to use a VOIP service that allows for the lower bandwidth g729a codec or, God forbid, the g723 codec.

viafax999

join:2000-06-03
Westford, MA
reply to CoxuserLasVegas
Yes, works wihout an issue.
Within the limitations of of the other issues that MJ has.

Peter

voipjunk

join:2004-08-07
Largo, FL
·RoadRunner Cable

reply to CoxuserLasVegas
said by CoxuserLasVegas :

I think magic jack is practical to use in another country than here in the US
Don't take me wrong, I'm just asking you simple question.
To support your above statement, How many MJ's you are using in another country?

PX Eliezer
Premium
join:2008-08-09
New Jersey
reply to CoxuserLasVegas
Are you asking a question or making a declaration??


CoxuserLasVegas

@cox.net
I plan to send my mom a magic jack when my brother goes home this july. I think magic jack is practical to use in another country than here in the US
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