HKM
join:2008-12-31
Fort Lauderdale, FL
 ·AT&T Southeast
| U-Verse (VDSL) is obsolete.
As I have been saying for sometime now what others have been saying except for few clueless fanboy's what AT&T's U-Verse (VDSL) is already obsolete before/short after its launch.
First of all you have to take in consideration that your network will even be picked by consumers who already have access to higher tiers from cable ISP even where DOCSIS 3 or FiOS is not available and best AT&T offers in the same area is below 3mbps. The second thing depends on value which will always be competitive if there is another HSI vendor; more buck for your money.
Verizon choose to deploy FTTH and invest in the future which is very bold move as positive result has been successfully seen in other countries with fiber based transit. Even when Comcast's is deploying DOCSIS 3 and other cable companies moving in its footsteps it is still behind true compression to FiOS as their network is limited due to its design.
The key argument here is that AT&T choose to ignore hard data and take in less competitive unproven technology which will be deployed to mass. What they failed to understand is that in the end its the consumers decision. If U-Verse tier is available in the same area along with Verizon's FiOS or Comcast's DOCSIS 3.0 most likely people won't go with U-Verse.
PS: Fiber is the future, copper is the past. I hope Verizon and Comcast rip AT&T open in HSI by end of this year. Remember what happened to AOL? They failed to adapt and look where they are now? LOL |
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cwh
join:2006-05-14
San Antonio, TX | The hard data says that ATT is collecting customers at the same rate as fios with 1/3 to 1/2 of the investment. |
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HKM
join:2008-12-31
Fort Lauderdale, FL
·AT&T Southeast
| Data also says most area served by AT&T's U-Verse tier is not fully competitive as its not in same market competing with DOCSIS 3.0/FiOS. The data also says that majority of the users were ADSL users who switched to U-Verse for bundling voice, tv, internet.
I would love to see AT&T deploy in a area that is already being served by Comcast's DOCSIS and FiOS and not in random cherry picking small town and see the result as I am sure other than AT&T's fanboy's granny less than 5gb/month usage for email, surfing most likely alot of folks will pick anything other than obselete U-Verse.
Where is AT&T again? maybe by 2012 they will deploy U-Verse to 30% of their users by then FiOS and DOCSIS will rip open sad attempt at broadband provider aka AT&T.
said by Eric Bangeman (May 10, 2007) | Verizon, Comcast pump up the bandwidth. Where's AT&T? :
AT&T's strategy does resonate with price-conscious consumers. Many broadband subscribers are very happy to have 768Kbps down for $14.95 per month, or 1.5Mbps for a few bucks more. There will always be a large segment of the population that will be content with lower speeds and lower prices. But is that the market niche AT&T wants to find itself in, the deep-discount DSL provider?
Longer-term, AT&T's strategy appears to be more iffy, as applications that yearn for truly phat pipes continue to emerge. AT&T may be able to pump faster speeds over the twisted-pair wire between the node and the home in the years ahead, but not approaching the speeds that the competition can offer. Verizon and the cable companies look to be well-positioned for a bandwidth-intensive future. AT&T? Well, it can be the leader when it comes to low prices. Bandwidth is another story. |
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cwh
join:2006-05-14
San Antonio, TX
| said by HKM  :Data also says most area served by AT&T's U-Verse tier is not fully competitive as its not in same market competing with DOCSIS 3.0/FiOS. The data also says that majority of the users were ADSL users who switched to U-Verse for bundling voice, tv, internet. But it is competitive enough for them to have little problem attracting customers. And according to their quarterly reports most of the uverse customers are coming from cable.
I would love to see AT&T deploy in a area that is already being served by Comcast's DOCSIS and FiOS and not in random cherry picking small town and see the result as I am sure other than AT&T's fanboy's granny less than 5gb/month usage for email, surfing most likely alot of folks will pick anything other than obselete U-Verse.
Where is AT&T again? maybe by 2012 they will deploy U-Verse to 30% of their users by then FiOS and DOCSIS will rip open sad attempt at broadband provider aka AT&T.
ATT hit major markets first and is only now starting to small towns. Smallest i have seen so far is pop 100k. Uverse currently has more coverage than fios with their initial deployment covering 50% of sbc(18million residences) and still expanding in bell south area. And this is now, not 2012. Uverse is not same product it was 3 years ago when it rolled out, and I doubt it will be the same product in 2012 either. |
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fatmanskinny
Premium
join:2004-01-04
Wandering
 ·Comcast Digital Vo..
 ·Comcast
| reply to HKM
said by HKM :PS: Fiber is the future, copper is the past. I hope Verizon and Comcast rip AT&T open in HSI by end of this year. Remember what happened to AOL? They failed to adapt and look where they are now? LOL I could not have said it better. AT&T is behind the times, IMHO. They consistently send me "come back to us" letters and one day, I am going to write them and tell them why I am not coming back and sticking with Comcast.
Their DSL service cannot go above 6MB down / 512K up. Their local and long distance phone service is expensive ($72 for AT&T versus $40 for Comcast and it has more features).
Like you said, AT&T will eventually go the way of AOL if they do not adapt. With the mass exodus of landline users from telcos to cable phone providers, you would think they would take it as a clue. Nope! AT&T has "head in the sand" thinking.
I hope Verizon buys AT&T when they finally hit the bottom (or near it) and bring FIOS to those previously served by AT&T.
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Obama Biden '12
join:2000-03-29
Beverly Hills, CA
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| said by fatmanskinny :[ Their DSL service cannot go above 6MB down / 512K up. My AT&T DSL is 6/768. What else are you wrong about? |
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fatmanskinny
Premium
join:2004-01-04
Wandering
·Comcast Digital Vo..
·Comcast
| reply to Authority
Re: U-Verse (VDSL) is obsolete.
said by Authority :said by fatmanskinny :[ Their DSL service cannot go above 6MB down / 512K up. My AT&T DSL is 6/768. What else are you wrong about? Hey guy. The info I stated may be incorrect for your area but not where I am.... all we get is 512k up. Have a nice day.
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Beverly Hills, CA
·AT&T Yahoo
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2 edits | said by fatmanskinny Hey guy. The info I stated may be incorrect for your area but not where I am.... all we get is 512k up. Have a nice day.
You have a good day too. |
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fatmanskinny
Premium
join:2004-01-04
Wandering
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·Comcast
2 edits | said by Authority :said by fatmanskinny Hey guy. The info I stated may be incorrect for your area but not where I am.... all we get is 512k up. Have a nice day. I understand that's what you meant, but it's not what you said. If you're going to bash a company, at least be accurate. You have a good day too. So you correctly understood what I meant yet posted "what else are you wrong about?" because of the words typed and not the meaning????
BTW, I am accurate for my experience with AT&T for my area. I cannot speak for people in other AT&T regions. That should have been obvious.
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vinnie97
join:2003-12-05
US | reply to cwh
Oh, you mean the U-Verse box doesn't crash as frequently as it did 3 years ago? |
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join:2000-03-29
Beverly Hills, CA
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said by fatmanskinny :So you correctly understood what I meant yet posted "what else are you wrong about?" because of the words typed and not the meaning???? No, I mean understand you now, before I thought you were just someone with bad information. |
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HKM
join:2008-12-31
Fort Lauderdale, FL
·AT&T Southeast
| reply to Authority
Oh look another AT&T fanboy on SBC's transit or last mile. Good for you that you get 768kbps upstream. So how much are you paying for your 6mbps/768kbps ADSL tier? I know I am paying $22/month for 6mbps/512kbps. Are you that stupid that you trying to defend AT&T's for not even having 1mbps upload? When most cable HSI is offering 2-3mbps+ upstream on just below 20mbps downstream tiers? Now I am not saying everyone should get max tier available by the ISP. What I am saying is at least they should OFFER it then as a consumer people have a choice which to get. I mean how many years did BellSouth/AT&T upgrade their ADSL tier? They shouldn't as its useless and they should upgrade to fiber. I know as a BellSouth customer it has been almost 5 years and since then I haven't seen any upgrade, have you? |
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cwh
join:2006-05-14
San Antonio, TX
| reply to vinnie97
said by vinnie97 :Oh, you mean the U-Verse box doesn't crash as frequently as it did 3 years ago? 3 years ago the dvr woulc reboot maybe once every couple of months. No it reboots not at all. I cant remember the last time that happened. |
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