inebriate
join:2001-12-08
Arlington, VA
| [northeast] Youtube HQ Video - Slow buffering?
DC-metro area FIOS (20/5) -- for the past week Youtube HQ videos have been unwatchable due to buffering. Youtube HD video and other sites (vimeo, funnyordie) are fine. Did a traceroute to one of the sites I noticed was serving the HQ video feed:
Tracing route to v21.lscache5.l.google.com [74.125.165.30]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms router.workgroup [192.168.1.1]
2 21 ms 20 ms 20 ms L100.WASHDC-VFTTP-06.verizon-gni.net [72.66.9.1]
3 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms P4-2.WASHDC-LCR-03.verizon-gni.net [130.81.39.76]
4 21 ms 20 ms 21 ms so-0-3-0-0.LCC1-RES-BB-RTR1-RE1.verizon-gni.net [130.81.29.220]
5 25 ms 25 ms 24 ms 0.ge-4-2-0.BR2.IAD8.ALTER.NET [152.63.32.141]
6 * * * Request timed out.
7 27 ms 26 ms 26 ms cr2.wswdc.ip.att.net [12.122.134.10]
8 24 ms 24 ms 24 ms 12.122.134.157
9 51 ms 51 ms 51 ms 12.88.155.14
10 28 ms 27 ms 27 ms 209.85.251.53
11 27 ms 27 ms 27 ms 74.125.165.30
Anybody else having an issue like this? |
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Jcink
join:2005-12-19
none
| Yes, I've had this issue. I'm on the 20/20 business package.
YouTube performance on high quality and HD videos has been spotty, sometimes they work, sometimes they don't. It seems to depend on which "google cache" url you get. v10.lscache4.google.com works fine for me, fast as can be. but v12.lscache4.google.com lags like crazy:
F:\Documents and Settings\Jcink>tracert v12.lscache4.google.com
Tracing route to v12.lscache4.google.com [208.69.36.132]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.2.1
2 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.0.1
3 11 ms 9 ms 4 ms 96.242.25.1
4 6 ms 12 ms 7 ms G2-0-1-790.NWRKNJ-LCR-07.verizon-gni.net [130.81
.109.104]
5 10 ms 22 ms 10 ms so-5-0-0-0.NWRK-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net [130.81.
29.8]
6 13 ms 14 ms 19 ms so-12-0-0-0.NY325-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net [130.8
1.17.6]
7 10 ms 12 ms 13 ms so-6-0-0-0.NY111-PEER-RTR1-re1.verizon-gni.net [
130.81.17.129]
8 28 ms 12 ms 10 ms po2-0.core01.jfk05.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.11
.45]
9 13 ms 17 ms 19 ms te4-1.ccr02.jfk05.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.24.
33]
10 12 ms 15 ms 9 ms te4-4.ccr04.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.3.6
9]
11 18 ms 17 ms 22 ms te8-8.ccr02.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.27.
173]
12 43 ms 52 ms 41 ms te7-8.mpd02.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.6.1
82]
13 44 ms 39 ms 39 ms te8-2.ccr02.ord03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.25.
70]
14 42 ms 39 ms 42 ms vl3803.na31.b002281-5.ord03.atlas.cogentco.com [
38.20.40.174]
15 41 ms 38 ms 41 ms 38.104.102.62
16 41 ms 42 ms 40 ms hit-nxdomain.opendns.com [208.69.36.132]
And here's my trace to yours, v21:
1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.2.1
2 2 ms 3 ms 1 ms 192.168.0.1
3 5 ms 4 ms 4 ms 96.242.25.1
4 9 ms 6 ms 7 ms G2-0-1-790.NWRKNJ-LCR-07.verizon-gni.net [130.81
.109.104]
5 14 ms 4 ms 7 ms so-5-0-0-0.NWRK-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net [130.81.
29.8]
6 10 ms 14 ms 12 ms so-12-0-0-0.NY325-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net [130.8
1.17.6]
7 17 ms 11 ms 9 ms 0.ge-6-1-0.BR3.NYC4.ALTER.NET [152.63.3.166]
8 75 ms 12 ms 14 ms 4.68.110.105
9 12 ms 12 ms 9 ms vlan52.ebr2.NewYork2.Level3.net [4.69.138.254]
10 10 ms 14 ms 15 ms ae-4-4.ebr1.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.69.141.17]
11 28 ms 19 ms 15 ms ae-71-71.csw2.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.69.134.70]
12 15 ms 46 ms 10 ms ae-2-79.edge1.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.68.16.78]
13 13 ms 12 ms 15 ms GOOGLE-INC.edge1.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.71.172.8
6]
14 16 ms 12 ms 12 ms 72.14.238.232
15 23 ms 22 ms 20 ms 209.85.248.216
16 * 50 ms 50 ms 216.239.48.113
17 22 ms 26 ms 22 ms 209.85.251.53
18 23 ms 22 ms 20 ms 74.125.165.30
In my experience the only way to fix this issue is to just keep playing with the video slider until you fall upon a faster cache server... all other video sites are fine and so is my download speed, so this seems to be youtubes problem. |
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Smith6612
Premium
join:2008-02-01
united state
 ·Dish Network
 ·Verizon Online DSL
·FrontierNet Intern..
1 edit | reply to inebriate
YouTube has in fact from what I can tell been having bandwidth issues, mainly on the weekends. On my DSL Connection from both Verizon and Frontier, I have to at times wait for some of the HD videos to buffer, when normally I don't have to wait to buffer them. I find that by experimenting with the fmt=22 URL trick to grab one server, and then try pressing the HD button on the player to get another server, I can see which one will give me better performance.
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It's all fun and games in a Team Fortress 2 battle until your sentry gun is sapped by the Spycrab! |
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glinc
join:2009-04-07
New York, NY | reply to inebriate
yup, i've got the same issues. |
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gmsbf5104
join:2003-12-16
Tampa, FL | reply to inebriate
For the most part I rarely use youtube anymore since switching to Fios. For whatever reason on my 20/5 connection youtube can't keep up regardless of when I go to view a video. I catch up to the buffer every 5 or 6 seconds. |
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sameshtdd
join:2006-01-04
Teaneck, NJ | Since this thread has died, are people still experiencing this issue? No matter what youtube video I watch, I always catch up to the buffer and have to wait and pause. |
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glinc
join:2009-04-07
New York, NY
 ·Verizon FIOS
| reply to inebriate
same issue with me, have to pause the video and let it buffer on a 20/20 connection seems retarted, but watching hd videos on other sites like IGN, Gametrailers load fast so I'm guessing its just an issue with youtube not liking fios?. When I'm at work on TWC or VZ DSL youtube just loads fine. |
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Vamp
5c077
Premium
join:2003-01-28
MD
·Verizon FIOS
| reply to inebriate
It's youtube not your connection, it happens to me no matter where im connected.
There is a few problems with Youtube, one of which they implemented bandwith throttling (the reason why 95% of the time a video will never buffer faster than 100~KB/s). Second being occasionally they will have some congestion problems. Finally there is something screwy with HQ, sometimes you have to reload the page and immediately click HQ before it has a chance to load.
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20/20 FIOS || MSN Msgr: scott001^gmail_com |
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Raphion
join:2000-10-14
Samsara | Youtube can't even stream a STANDARD def clip for me 90% of the time here in Tampabay, and I have 25Mbps downstream. Youtube servers are horribly, horribly bandwidth-starved. |
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Smith6612
Premium
join:2008-02-01
united state
·Dish Network
·Verizon Online DSL
·FrontierNet Intern..
| Lately the YouTube bandwidth problem has been much better for me. I still come across a slow server here or there, but when it comes down to it, the high quality servers in fact are playing much faster than the low quality ones that I come across now.
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It's all fun and games in a Team Fortress 2 battle until your sentry gun is sapped by the Spycrab! |
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Jcink
join:2005-12-19
none
1 edit | reply to inebriate
I just came here to check to see if this thread went any further since the last time I posted, because this past few days have been pretty bad. Funny that it's back up to the top again.
I've noticed the same thing with HQ servers at the moment. Those are still pretty slow although they stream far better. I've installed a greasemonkey tool called Yousabletube which lets me force whatever quality I want automatically.
However, HD and some low quality content is really rough now. In fact, HD is almost impossible unless I hit the pause button.
This problem was never fixed for me either, I've just dealt with it. Youtube is the only site that has this problem... connection is perfectly clear everywhere else. |
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RolteC
0h
join:2001-05-20
Fresh Meadows, NY
| I noticed myself that some days its almost impossible to use the service, in High Quality that is. Other times it has to buffer first for a while.
And I noticed today they everything so far has been working fine. So its hit or miss, but maybe all this is happening because of server congestion? I mean you can'y blame a company for not spending more money on it to provice higher quality stuff when the lower quality is already there  |
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batsona
Maryland
join:2004-04-17
Ellicott City, MD
·Verizon FIOS
 ·Vonage
| reply to inebriate
Is there a way to spoof DNS, or otherwise "determine" what cache server you go to? Let's say, if "videocache.google.com" revolved to 10 different IPs, you can circumnavigate this by hardcoding 'videocache.google.com" into your hosts file so it uses one single IP all the time.
videocache.google.com = example |
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ajm786
join:2006-10-07
College Park, MD | I'm having this exact problem, and I thought it was my computer/net connection. Glad to see others are also experiencing this and it just wasn't me. |
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oldcqr
join:2005-12-16
Land O Lakes, FL
| reply to inebriate
Add me to the list as well. Funny thing is I switched to Fios about 6 weeks ago from BH. When I was on BH I never seemed to have a problem with Youtube.
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Raphion
join:2000-10-14
Samsara
| said by oldcqr  :Add me to the list as well. Funny thing is I switched to Fios about 6 weeks ago from BH. When I was on BH I never seemed to have a problem with Youtube. Maybe FiOS connections are being routed to different YouTube servers. The problem certainly doesn't lie with FiOS. |
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Red Star
join:2005-08-14 | HD vids are almost unplayable for me.
My speed tests are all over the place but mostly slow. 20/10 fios near Tampa. |
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Rickeo
join:2008-01-26 | reply to inebriate
I'm going to chime in here as well.
Youtube with my 20/5 connection has been sluggish lately. Even after a fresh router reboot and speedtests show me pegging 15Mbps down and 5Mbps up. |
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glinc
join:2009-04-07
New York, NY | reply to inebriate
nahz, its not fios fault....I tested it again at work with TWC and still buffering. |
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whfsdude
Premium
join:2003-04-05
Washington, DC
| said by glinc :nahz, its not fios fault....I tested it again at work with TWC and still buffering. 100mbit at work and youtube buffers. Not a fios problem  |
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