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Re: [OOL] Optimum Ultra Reviews! Post em here!
Got ultra installed today.
On my router I'm seeing
»www.speedtest.net/result/480695570.png
Direct on my laptop i say 88.3/ 15.5
Just initiated a backup from my webservers, seeing over 50/ steady
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RARPSL
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1 edit | reply to Mike Wolf
said by Mike Wolf  :said by RARPSL :You're welcome. I am NOT advocating going the buy-your-own route (especially since CV does not charge a Rental Fee unlike some Cable Companies) since by using their modem you get free replacements if something goes wrong with it as well as free upgrades when/if there is a newer modem with better features (such as 8 Channel Bonding as opposed to the current modem's 4 Channel Capability). This is what happened when the new 15/x and Boost tiers were introduced and the standard tier users needed to have their old modems swapped for new ones with 100Base-T WAN Ports (the old SB4100s and non-Motorola modems were not able to support 15/x). Using a hypothetical 8 channel capable modem has the advantage that you can push more bandwidth through it since it uses less of any one channel and thus there is less congestion even if CV stays at 101/15. This particular modem can support more then just 4 channel bonding, higher then 8 as well. Which Modem are you talking about? If is the SB6120 or either SBV6220 (W/WO battery) then the Motorola site lists the specs as 4 Down and 4 Up Bonded Channels. The Cisco DPC3000 has the same 4/4 channel specs.
Note: My comment about not advocating the purchase of your own modem was not intended as a statement that I do not think it should be done (since I have in the past and may in the future) but only to point out the disadvantages of going this route as opposed to getting the Free Loaner modem from CV. Going the "Buy You Own" modem route can get you a model that is not the one that CV would give you but one that they do support. As I noted if/when they go with Ultra/VoIP it will be via the supplying of a SBV6220 since the Cisco/SA DPC3xxx line is Non-VoIP only. |
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said by apo1010101111 :
Only shills that work for Cablevision will boast that it's worth paying $300.00 for some guy to swap modems & change cables.
Peace.
Actually, I've never heard CV or anyone else boast that it is worth $300, except those that have paid it and have Ultra.
Peace.
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I've seen higher transfer rates from Giganews but this is what I was getting about 40 min ago. I've had download speeds hit 129xx KB/s. Speeds from Giganews and/or Ultra will fluctuate a bit but not by much. Huge improvement with Ultra vs standard OOL or OOL /w Boost.
Just ran a speedtest.net test now and got:
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briankeys
join:2002-04-09
Monroe, NY
| W.o.o.t.!! I am so excited! Do you need all 20 connections to max out or should I be able to get by with only 10?
said by Anorexorcist :I've seen higher transfer rates from Giganews but this is what I was getting about 40 min ago. I've had download speeds hit 129xx KB/s. Speeds from Giganews and/or Ultra will fluctuate a bit but not by much. Huge improvement with Ultra vs standard OOL or OOL /w Boost. Just ran a speedtest.net test now and got: W.o.o.t.!! I am so excited! Do you need all 20 connections to max out or should I be able to get by with only 10? |
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Mike Wolf
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2 edits | reply to RARPSL
Yeah I recommend contacting their ISP or checking their providers website to find out what cable modems are compatible with their system. I know that the SB6120 is compatible on Comcast's network as well as the DPC3000. »help.comcast.net/content/faq/Whi···-service |
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RARPSL
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Suffern, NY
| said by Mike Wolf :Yeah I recommend contacting their ISP or checking their providers website to find out what cable modems are compatible with their system. I know that the SB6120 is compatible on Comcast's network as well as the DPC3000. » help.comcast.net/content/faq/Whi···-service Per a Ultra FAQ question it is stated:
Optimum Online Ultra will utilize either the Cisco DPC3000 or Motorola SB6120 DOCSIS 3.0 modem.
My comment about getting your own modem if it is not the one that CV will supply you with has to do with wanting the Motorola modem (such as a SBV6220 which is the SB6120 with VoIP Support which will act as a SB6120 if not provisioned with the VoIP settings) when the one they are going to hand you is a DPC3000.
Can you respond to the first question in my reply that you are responding to about your statement about having a modem that is 8 Channel Bonding capable on the Downlink and Uplink sides. As I noted both the DPC3000 and SB6120/SBV6220 specs only list 4 Channel Bonding Ability (and in addition to that, which I did not mention, while the DOCSIS3 Specs allow for 8 Channel Download Bonding, the Upload bonding is restricted to 4 Channels even with the 8 Channels Down specs). |
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anonnm
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| reply to LJGoose
I don't understand what all the confusion is about with this ACTIVATION fee. It does not cover changing lines, swapping modems, cost of the new modem, talking to the customer, calling dispatch, discussing policies, or anything else. It is a FEE to join the elite club of having Ultra activated on your account. If you want to have ultra at this time you pay the fee if you don't pay the fee you don't get ultra... very simple.
And if you already have OOL I am pretty sure you still pay the install fee too. I know if you had an IO box and you upgraded to a DVR you paid the install fee to swap the box ( when they were charging the install fee ). |
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Mike Wolf
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| reply to RARPSL
The specs you are quoting could be outdated by a simple firmware upgrade giving the modem the abilty of more then 4 channel bonding, but there really is no way of knowing unless someones provider actually implements that, or someone from Motorola chimes in. In addition it has been stated both on this forum of 10 channel bonding, but I don't know how true that part is. |
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RARPSL
join:1999-12-08
Suffern, NY
| said by Mike Wolf :The specs you are quoting could be outdated by a simple firmware upgrade giving the modem the abilty of more then 4 channel bonding, but there really is no way of knowing unless someones provider actually implements that, or someone from Motorola chimes in. In addition it has been stated both on this forum of 10 channel bonding, but I don't know how true that part is. I think the number of channels that can be Bonded is controlled by the Chip inside the Modem and all the current chips have a 4 Channel Capability (I saw a news article recently announcing a new chip with 8 Channel Capabilities being developed). I think the current modems only have the hardware support for 4 channels so a microcode push would not handle the issue unlike having hardware that supports 8 channels but the microcode only supporting 4 (at the current microcode release). |
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TheWiseGuy
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| said by RARPSL :]I think the number of channels that can be Bonded is controlled by the Chip inside the Modem and all the current chips have a 4 Channel Capability (I saw a news article recently announcing a new chip with 8 Channel Capabilities being developed). I think the current modems only have the hardware support for 4 channels so a microcode push would not handle the issue unlike having hardware that supports 8 channels but the microcode only supporting 4 (at the current microcode release). As you say it depends on the chip. The Cisco does not seem to be upgradeable to 8 channels. They are working on a new Model the 3212 which will use a Broadcom chip (probably what you read about).
»www.multichannel.com/article/162···Mbps.php
Motorola uses the Puma 5 (but so does the Cisco DPC 3000) and it depends on what version of the Puma 5 is in the Motorola. The newest version introduced in Sept, the TNETC4840, can do 8 channels, so it is possible that Motorola modems are upgradeable to 8X4 but I can not find any reference indicating that chip version is in the SB6120 and I believe certification was for 4 channels.
»focus.ti.com/pr/docs/preldetail.···=sc08113
»focus.ti.com/lit/ml/spat181/spat181.pdf
I have read that the Docsis standards are minimums and therefore in the future a modem could bond more then 8X4 channels.
»www.cedmagazine.com/Article-DOCS···del.aspx
said by From CED Mag :
Because the maximum number of channels which can be bonded together is not defined, DOCSIS 3.0 channels with data rates as high or higher than 1 Gbps can be created.
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RARPSL
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| said by TheWiseGuy :said by RARPSL :]I think the number of channels that can be Bonded is controlled by the Chip inside the Modem and all the current chips have a 4 Channel Capability (I saw a news article recently announcing a new chip with 8 Channel Capabilities being developed). I think the current modems only have the hardware support for 4 channels so a microcode push would not handle the issue unlike having hardware that supports 8 channels but the microcode only supporting 4 (at the current microcode release). As you say it depends on the chip. The Cisco does not seem to be upgradeable to 8 channels. They are working on a new Model the 3212 which will use a Broadcom chip (probably what you read about). » www.multichannel.com/article/162···Mbps.phpMotorola uses the Puma 5 (but so does the Cisco DPC 3000) and it depends on what version of the Puma 5 is in the Motorola. The newest version introduced in Sept, the TNETC4840, can do 8 channels, so it is possible that Motorola modems are upgradeable to 8X4 but I can not find any reference indicating that chip version is in the SB6120 and I believe certification was for 4 channels. » focus.ti.com/pr/docs/preldetail.···=sc08113» focus.ti.com/lit/ml/spat181/spat181.pdf I have read that the Docsis standards are minimums and therefore in the future a modem could bond more then 8X4 channels. » www.cedmagazine.com/Article-DOCS···del.aspxsaid by From CED Mag :
Because the maximum number of channels which can be bonded together is not defined, DOCSIS 3.0 channels with data rates as high or higher than 1 Gbps can be created. Thank you for locating these articles. Yes the Broadcom and Puma articles were what I was thinking of. I had forgotten that the Cisco Article mentioned the VoIP Capable modem that was in the pipeline (thus making the SBV6220 no longer a single source for a VoIP+IP Modem).
Since there is no information (as you note) on what chips are in the two modem lines at the current time, I think it is a Conservative assumption to take that whatever is being supplied now is a 4x4 capable modem that can not be microcode or settings pushed to 8x4. I have the vague impression that the current crop of certified chips (or it may be the certification on the standard itself) only allows 1 Upload Channel not the up-to-4 defined in the Standard (I seem to remember seeing something about upstream bonding "Still Needing to be Working Out". |
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TheWiseGuy
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| What you read was probably
»'12-14 Months' From Faster Upstream DOCSIS 3.0
From what I have read I believe that the modems should all be able to do 4 upstream, it is the CMTS that needs to certified as silver and Cisco and Motorola are still at Bronze.
»www.translation-please.com/colum···mnid=242
»www.lightreading.com/document.as···rint=yes
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Back in the 60's and early 70's, Monroe NY was known for a few things - cheap motels, bungalows and its proximity to the Quickway (aka - speed trap alley). Who'da thunkit that people would be flying down Al Gore's Information SuperHighway in Monroe. I think for old times' sake some New York State Policemen should place a cap on the town's internet speeds - with proceeds of violations given to the victims of the speed-trap-towns in that region.  |
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| reply to briankeys
said by briankeys :Woo! I just found out that Ultra was actively being rolled out on a whim and signed up in a heartbeat. I live in a very rural / low income neighborhood and will most likely be the only person with Ultra on my node! I have only encountered one slowdown / loss of service in the past few years so it should be blazing fast! A dream come true! I simply can't wait for Saturday morning for the Optimum Genie to install my replacement modem! Someone put me in a chemical coma! Monroe, is rural and low income? LOL. Where do you live on North Main St or the James Motel? I would classify most of Monroe as Middle class with some areas being Upper Middle Class. Monroe tends to lag behind technology wise due to the stranglehold some companies had on the area. AT&T solved one problem by purchasing Cellular One. Now only if someone can buy Frontier. |
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briankeys
join:2002-04-09
Monroe, NY
| Ugh, frontier!
And in regards to Monroe, I live on the outskirts near Salisbury Mills, in a neighborhood of a few hundred bungalows that were supposed to be vacation homes... Where people started living full year. Out of the 9 homes on my street, three are seasonal and the other two are inhabited by the elderly.. Same with the roads around me. Works out great for my node. I wave to it when I pass it on the way to work =]
And where is the James Motel? Heh, never seen it before. |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| reply to TheWiseGuy
said by TheWiseGuy :said by From CED Mag :
Because the maximum number of channels which can be bonded together is not defined, DOCSIS 3.0 channels with data rates as high or higher than 1 Gbps can be created. Ok smart guy, whats the maximum amount of channels you can bind? how many bits were allocated to express the length of the list of channels to use? 3 bits? 4 bits? 8 bits? |
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TheWiseGuy
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| said by patcat88 :said by TheWiseGuy :said by From CED Mag :
Because the maximum number of channels which can be bonded together is not defined, DOCSIS 3.0 channels with data rates as high or higher than 1 Gbps can be created. Ok smart guy, whats the maximum amount of channels you can bind? No idea.
said by patcat88 :how many bits were allocated to express the length of the list of channels to use? 3 bits? 4 bits? 8 bits? No idea, I have not studied the Docsis 3.0 spec. As I said, that is what I had read and it is an article from CED mag. It was written
"By Peter Percosan, Executive Director of Broadband Strategy, Digital Connected Home Business; and Etai Zaltsman, CTO,Broadband Technology Group, Texas Instruments"
The article said
Because the maximum number of channels which can be bonded together is not defined, DOCSIS 3.0 channels with data rates as high or higher than 1 Gbps can be created.
I simply assume they have read the spec since I assume it is part of their job and they know that the maximum number of channels that can be bonded is not specified in the spec. Whether it is simply defined by the number of bits I don't know. If you do, why not simply tell us instead of being a clown!
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LOL !
Somehow I don't think that the people living in Mansion Ridge, near a Jack Nicklaus design golf course, would see themselves as 'rural/low income' - or even 'middle-class'....
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said by patcat88 :Ok smart guy, whats the maximum amount of channels you can bind? how many bits were allocated to express the length of the list of channels to use? 3 bits? 4 bits? 8 bits? I'm not particularly smart but 8 bits on the current iteration of DOCSIS 3:
Table 6–33 - Sub-TLVs for Downstream Active Channel List TLV
Type Length Value
1.1 1 Channel ID: 1 byte. The Downstream Channel ID of the channel being listed. |
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