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hayabusa3303
Over 200 mph
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join:2005-06-29
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hey charlie

better come up with a plan fast there my friend.

Plus your prices are too high compared to directv.


fifty nine

join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
kudos:1

Not to mention they are late adding HD channels and DISHonest Charlie is always cheaping out resulting in channels being dropped.



hayabusa3303
Over 200 mph
Premium
join:2005-06-29
kudos:1

IMO the cracks are starting to show the Charlie.

i havnt had dish in years(2003) but it looks like it has got real bad there.



battleop

join:2005-09-28
00000

reply to fifty nine
"they are late adding HD channels"

That's why I left DISH for Direct. Direct had far more of the channels I watch in HD that DISH did at the time.



espaeth
Digital Plumber
Premium,MVM
join:2001-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
kudos:2
Reviews:
·Clear Wireless

reply to fifty nine

said by fifty nine:

Not to mention they are late adding HD channels and DISHonest Charlie is always cheaping out resulting in channels being dropped.
They may be late, but last month they surpassed DirecTV in national HD count. They now sit at 140 national HD channels to Direct's 130. Not only that, but they still have capacity to turn up more, while DirecTV is stuck until they get another bird launched late this year.

DirecTV's success is largely due to successful advertising campaigns coupled with locking up NFL Sunday Ticket and paying the premium to carry MLB Extra Innings. The subscriber gains come at a cost though. Direct made $201 million on $4.90 billion in revenue, while Dish made $313 million on $2.91 billion in revenue. That's impressive considering most (not all) Dish subscribers end up paying less than they would for the same channels with DirecTV.


sleuth
Premium
join:2001-08-30
West Des Moines, IA

reply to hayabusa3303

said by hayabusa3303:

better come up with a plan fast there my friend.

Plus your prices are too high compared to directv.
I've had dishnetwork for some time now and have compared my package vs. directv. By going to dish network I'm saving $10 /month, so I'm not sure how it's cheaper?

Plus the HD content has increased drastically.

NeoandGeo

join:2003-05-10
Harrison, TN

reply to espaeth
The only reason I am going to Dish over Direct when my Cable contract expires is because Dish currently offers more in HD for a lower price than Direct. I just hope they don't have any more fiasco's by dropping channels.



hayabusa3303
Over 200 mph
Premium
join:2005-06-29
kudos:1
Reviews:
·RoadRunner Cable
·AT&T Southeast

reply to espaeth

said by espaeth:

DirecTV is stuck until they get another bird launched late this year.

September: DirecTV 12
launcher: Proton
launch site: Baikonur Cosmodrome, Kazakhstan
mission: commercial communications satellite

Sept launch it would put into next year before the bird is ready to handle the load all the testing that has to be done.


Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus

join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY

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reply to fifty nine


For all of you Charlie haters, now you can have a conniption fit
said by fifty nine:

Not to mention they are late adding HD channels and DISHonest Charlie is always cheaping out resulting in channels being dropped.
What do you mean "cheaping out" He stands up to the content suppliers which are mostly owned by his cable, and over the air competition. He refused to pay the price increases and called their bluff, Mostly these content suppliers wanted Dish to bundle channels, Dish was expected to fork over the increase cost for one good channel and a couple that nobody would watch. Charlie did not think this was fair and told them to go packing, and he got his way. Does this sound like a loyal customer, damn straight. If he caved in too the demands of these production studio's you wazoo's would be the first one to bitch and moan about price increases and why I am paying for channels I don't even watch. The detractors of "Charlie" don't appear to be subscribers so they are bitching and pointing fingers from the outside.

I have been a loyal customer for ever well over 15 years. I had to get a new DVR as mine finally crapped out after years of being on 24/7. They wanted me to sign up for a 24 month contract so I could get an upgraded DVR, I told the operator, who spoke very good english, that was fine with me because they will have to pry my Dish Network system out of my cold dead hands.

Ask Native Americans in Alaska about dish Network. Dish is the only media provider that uplinks and beams Native American Channels into Alaska. These are channels run by the Tribes in Alaska who provide programing in their native languages. I remember a hearing before a Senate commitee and "Charlie" was asked by an Alaskan Senator if he could provide some kind of televison service for Alaska Citizens, and Native Americans, Charlie met with the Alaskan Delagation and with their help setup such programing.
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I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man's reasoning powers are not above the monkey's.
- Mark Twain in Eruption


djrobx

join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Verizon Wireless..
·RoadRunner Cable
·AT&T U-Verse
·VOIPo
·PHONE POWER

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It's not just his negotiation tactics that have earned him that repuation. They ask you to go climb up on your roof and mail the LNB back when you cancel. They also have an extremely rude audit team that harasses people who don't have landlines to read numbers off receivers to make sure they're not sharing accounts.

There's nothing UNREASONABLE about that, but little things like that are enough to turn people off and lose customers forever.

--
AT&T U-Hearse
Your funeral. Delivered.



WeSRT4

join:2000-11-20
Mobile, AL
Reviews:
·AT&T Southeast

reply to hayabusa3303

said by hayabusa3303:

better come up with a plan fast there my friend.

Plus your prices are too high compared to directv.
Wrong! Dish is still cheaper than Directv.


anonny55

@lamrc.com

reply to djrobx
Huh?? They installed the LNB for me... I've had DTV from '97 until '04 and Dish ever since. I hardly noticed a difference. I missed the TIvo unit from DTV, but when I used thier replacement - I was glad I went to Dish.

How do you like you out of sync audio on your Uverse?


HiDesert

join:2008-08-17

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reply to Transmaster

said by Transmaster:

said by fifty nine:
What do you mean "cheaping out" He stands up to the content suppliers which are mostly owned by his cable, and over the air competition. He refused to pay the price increases and called their bluff, Mostly these content suppliers wanted Dish to bundle channels, Dish was expected to fork over the increase cost for one good channel and a couple that nobody would watch. Charlie did not think this was fair and told them to go packing,
You must be talking about the lifetime ordeal. Yes I remember that. Disney owns many channels like ESPN and Lifetime and they like to bundle channels to extort more carriage for lesser viewed channels. But from what I understood, charlie paid Disney ahead of time for the privilege to negotiate for Lifetime on its own. For that reason, Disney caved. But they still let Dish shut those channels down for a few months. After that, Disney finally figured out they were loosing more money in being stubborn. Personally, I feel that channel bundling and carriage extortion should be illegal. And if there is one company more responsible for high increases in content it would be Disney.. Channels like ESPN command some of the highest carriages and are viewed by a minority. Its impossible to unbundle these sports tiers unless you sign up for the most limited tiers which provide very few channels.


digiblur
Got Sipura?
Premium
join:2002-06-03
Louisiana

reply to WeSRT4

said by WeSRT4:

said by hayabusa3303:

better come up with a plan fast there my friend.

Plus your prices are too high compared to directv.
Wrong! Dish is still cheaper than Directv.
More expensive?? I pay $42 a month for dual tuner DVR that feeds 2 TVs different programming at the same time. I get OTA HD locals, satellite HD locals, and a TON of HD channels. No one can touch that deal. Heck I even got free installation, and two nice rebates.
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hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH

reply to battleop
Direc the T is not part of the Direc name. the T is for TV. DirecTV


HiDesert

join:2008-08-17

reply to digiblur

said by digiblur:

said by WeSRT4:
said by hayabusa3303:
More expensive?? I pay $42 a month for dual tuner DVR that feeds 2 TVs different programming at the same time. I get OTA HD locals, satellite HD locals, and a TON of HD channels. No one can touch that deal. Heck I even got free installation, and two nice rebates.
That is a good deal.. How many channels are you getting not including the OTA? And is that their regular price or a promo? Because as far as I know, DTV is more based on regular pricing. Everyone offers great promos.. even comcrap. But if your on a promo then its not fair to compare price points.


battleop

join:2005-09-28
00000

reply to hottboiinnc
Whew.. Good thing you can sleep tonight.



tvtek
Live life to its fullest
Premium
join:2004-03-07
Concord, CA

reply to anonny55
How do you like you out of sync audio on your Uverse?

Actually out of sync issues can show up on DirecTV as well as Dish Network.
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Curiosity killed the cat, but for a while I was a suspect.
Steven Wright.



digiblur
Got Sipura?
Premium
join:2002-06-03
Louisiana

reply to HiDesert

said by HiDesert:

That is a good deal.. How many channels are you getting not including the OTA? And is that their regular price or a promo? Because as far as I know, DTV is more based on regular pricing. Everyone offers great promos.. even comcrap. But if your on a promo then its not fair to compare price points.
I signed up for absolute HD package last year. The package is no longer available to new subs as it's been replaced with a few others, but it isn't a promo price plan.

I don't know the count exactly as I've never bothered to count them. But I get them all except for these:

SpeedHD
FX-HD
VH1-HD
MTV-HD
Nick-HD
FoxNews-HD
FoxBizNews-HD

And I get all the Cinemax SD's and HD's for 1 penny a year. Not letting this plan go if I can help it.

But I do admit they have me locked with their equipment since no one else can supply with a DVR that has features like the 722... USB Hard Drive storage, TV1 and TV2 outputs on any TV's in my house, 3 recordings and 2 separate viewings at the same time.
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Make your Sipura/PAP2 speak. »www.voipurize.com
SouthWest Louisiana PC Users Group »www.swlapcug.com

fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3

reply to WeSRT4
I love how people start a message with the word "WRONG!" ... this implies you're correct and need to gloat about it... but anyway..

The bottom line, you have NO idea what others pay. If you want to base your argument on today's published rates, please go ahead, but you'll look silly. There are customers that are grandfathered into plans.. MANY of them.. so to sit there and say "WRONG!" ... only makes you look silly.


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