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|   Ark
join:2002-06-08
Ada, MI | Re: Dual tuner recivers. Plus the 30-second skip. I know Comcast DVRs don't have that, and I don't think DirecTV's do either. I'd hate to have to use a "fast forward" button instead of an instant time-skip button. Completely negates the point of a digital recording. | |
| | | | Re: Dual tuner recivers. said by Ark:Plus the 30-second skip. I know Comcast DVRs don't have that, and I don't think DirecTV's do either. ALL DirecTV DVR's have always had this feature...  | |
| | | Ark
join:2002-06-08
Ada, MI Reviews:
 ·Comcast
1 edit | Re: Dual tuner recivers. Is this picture correct?
Is that "Advance" button really 30 seconds?
Or do you have to hack the remote/receiver to do it, like I hear you have to with Tivo. If so, that doesn't count, because most users won't do that. | |
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1 edit | Re: Dual tuner recivers. said by Ark:Is that "Advance" button really 30 seconds? Or do you have to hack the remote/receiver to do it Yes, it is REALLY 30 sec
No, you DON'T have to hack it - comes that way out of the box 
You CAN, however, choose either SKIP (instant skip) or SLIP (scan 30 sec of prog in about 3 sec) | |
| | | | | Ark
join:2002-06-08
Ada, MI Reviews:
·Comcast
| Re: Dual tuner recivers. Well that's cool. They still need to put a 2nd tuner and output on their receivers, or stop charging $5 per TV though.
And everybody else needs to start having 30-second skip buttons. I was afraid Dish was the only one and they might be pressured to remove it eventually. | |
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2 edits | Re: Dual tuner recivers. said by Ark:They still need to put a 2nd tuner and output on their receivers, or stop charging $5 per TV though. Well first of all, ALL DirecTV DVR's have dual tuners & ALWAYS have...
But to answer you point about the "2nd output/$5 charge" - maybe DISH's non-DVR dual tuners (aka 322's) have a useful purpose, but the dual-output DVR's obviously have the limitation where each room ONLY gets a single tuner to work with. Also, you DO realize that DISH ONLY gives you the discount on the 2nd room on the 322's IF they have a landline connected to them. Since more & more people are giving up their landlines, this makes this feature useless for cell-only customers.
On the DVR's, if BOTH rooms want to record 1 thing & watch another live show, you're SOL with this setup. Most people have an expectation that BOTH rooms can do 2 live shows at once, & obviously they can't with this setup. Once I explain this "limitation" (farce is better word, IMHO) to clients, most agree that spending a measly $5/month for 2 receivers with FULL HD record/watch capabilities for BOTH rooms is worth the extra $$$. (you DO realize the 2nd room output on DISH HD receivers is NOT HD, either  )
And DirecTV, at least for the last several clients of mine that have upgraded, has been pretty generous at giving them 2 DVR's at either no extra upfront charge, or at worst case a $50 one-time upgrade charge for 2. Maybe that's why DirecTV is GAINING customers & DISH is LOOSING them...  | |
| | | | | | | Ark
join:2002-06-08
Ada, MI Reviews:
·Comcast
| Re: Dual tuner recivers.
I am well aware of the fact that the Dish boxes only have 2 tuners to share for 2 rooms, and that really isn't a limitation at all. It has never caused a problem, as I only record things I want to watch, and will either be watching them live, or not be home when they are recording anyway. Most people only have 1 big HD TV anyway, if they have any HD TV at all, so it really isn't any downside again that the 2nd output is not HD. If you have 2 HD TVs, then get 2 722's and have them sitting at each HD TV. You can still run 4 TVs from 2 receivers, with the 3rd/4th being SD.
For most people, the issue is simply price though, and as I explained in another post here, for the SAME packages, DirecTV costs $26 more than the $60 I pay for Dish. Mostly because of the 2 extra $5/tuner charges, but the base price for the channels is just $16 higher (55.99 vs 39.99). I guess this is the main reason why I don't know a single friend or family member who has DirecTV, and didn't know their remotes even had 30-second skip. | |
| | | | | | | |  wings10I Am LegendPremium
join:2004-06-09
South Elgin, IL
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| Re: Dual tuner recivers. said by Ark:For most people, the issue is simply price though, and as I explained in another post here, for the SAME packages, DirecTV costs $26 more than the $60 I pay for Dish. Mostly because of the 2 extra $5/tuner charges, but the base price for the channels is just $16 higher (55.99 vs 39.99). I guess this is the main reason why I don't know a single friend or family member who has DirecTV, and didn't know their remotes even had 30-second skip. I agree. The reason why I switched from DirecTV to DISH was it is cheaper for the same channels I want. And yes I have 4 TV's hooked up and save another $10.
Oh and I got Cinemax for a penny a year for going to paperless / online billing.
Just my opinion. If DirecTV had somne thing I needed that DISH did not I would switch back.
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| | | | | | wings10I Am LegendPremium
join:2004-06-09
South Elgin, IL | I believe you can hook up your receiver to a broadband connection either DSL or Cable. I have DSL so it's a non issue.
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| | | | | | |  jmorlanHmm... That's funny.Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-05
Pacifica, CA
kudos:4 | said by dishrich:On the DVR's, if BOTH rooms want to record 1 thing & watch another live show, you're SOL with this setup. Most people have an expectation that BOTH rooms can do 2 live shows at once, & obviously they can't with this setup. Is that really an expectation? Why would I want to watch two live shows in both rooms simultaneously? I can watch either anything I have recorded or watch two live shows in either room depending on where I am. Once I explain this "limitation" (farce is better word, IMHO) to clients, most agree that spending a measly $5/month for 2 receivers with FULL HD record/watch capabilities for BOTH rooms is worth the extra $$$. (you DO realize the 2nd room output on DISH HD receivers is NOT HD, either )
FWIW I just lowered my Dish bill substantially by dumping the SD programming package and just going with their new Turbo HD bronze package. I also got HBO free for three months and am considering dropping it after the promotion.
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