Re: Corp exec retirement fund contribution fee?

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UofMiamiGrad Premium join:2001-02-03 Great Neck, NY	reply to Bit Re: Corp exec retirement fund contribution fee? More along the lines, it cost $750/sub to upgrade to DOCSIS 3.0 according to Cablevision. So hit up the subs wanting DOCSIS 3.0 with a $300 upfront fee, recoup some of the costs.
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Bit Premium join:2009-02-19 00000	How much did it cost to upgrade VZ subs with FiOS?
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patcat88 join:2002-04-05 Jamaica, NY	$700 per house passed, then $700 per installation/subscription.
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Bit Premium join:2009-02-19 00000	So there goes that CV excuse.
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Bit Premium join:2009-02-19 00000	reply to UofMiamiGrad VZ spends several hundred per sub for FiOS and they don't have $340 install/activation fees.
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battleop join:2005-09-28 00000	reply to UofMiamiGrad It's the early adopter tax. Just the same as how most other things are really expensive at first, LCD TVs, CD Players, DVD Players etc. The people who want bragging rights will pay it and go on. Then when they are ready for mass market it will go away.
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The Beer I Love It When A Plan Comes Together Premium join:2001-07-24 Omaha, NE clubs:	IIRC I paid $300 for my first cable modem
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rawgerz In Debt we trust Premium join:2004-10-03 Grove City, PA ·Verizon Online DSL ·Sprint Mobile Broa..	reply to Bit Because Verizon has a popular wireless division and landline income. All those rural people paying $67 for POTS and $8 dollars for caller ID helped contribute. -- You can't make all the people happy all of the time. But it should be common sense to shoot for the majority.
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Bit Premium join:2009-02-19 00000	And CV has lucrative video, voice and HSI income.
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patcat88 join:2002-04-05 Jamaica, NY	CV doesn't get USF $, and doesn't sell $10.95 caller ID, and doesn't have a wireless division with premium pricing (compared to sprint) that extorts rural users (no SPCS or TM). The video programing eats the vast majority of CV's revenue. CV's Lightpath division's business broadband penetration is limited. Business still subscribe to pure profit bonded T1s from Verizon as if nothing else exists other than a T1. Also I don't think CV has any government customers, Verizon has tons of government customers that will pay whatever Verizon writes on the bill, they have an unlimited source of money, YOU!
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Bit Premium join:2009-02-19 00000 ·VOIPo ·Cox HSI 1 edit	They aren't bleeding voice customers by the tens of thousands either nor are they dropping $21B. There is no excuse for them charging a $300 junk fee other than the simple fact that their network can't support this tier so they have to do what they can to insure no one buys it while still being able to throw a "$99 for the fastest broadband" claim around.
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rawgerz In Debt we trust Premium join:2004-10-03 Grove City, PA ·Verizon Online DSL ·Sprint Mobile Broa..	Wiki says CV had 7.23B in revenue in 2007, compared to Verizon's almost 100B. I'd rather ask the question, why does it cost so much per sub for 3.0.. -- You can't make all the people happy all of the time. But it should be common sense to shoot for the majority.
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Bit Premium join:2009-02-19 00000 ·VOIPo ·Cox HSI	Cablevision has one of the highest per subscriber revenue rates in the industry »www.chicagotribune.com/business/···23.story . There is no excuse for a $300 junk fee other than to dissuade users from signing up since their network can't support a 100Mb tier.
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kieranmullen Premium join:2005-12-12 Portland, OR clubs:	reply to The Beer I paid that for my first 56k modem and my first 14.4 modem.
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rawgerz In Debt we trust Premium join:2004-10-03 Grove City, PA ·Verizon Online DSL ·Sprint Mobile Broa..	reply to Bit If their infrastructure can't handle the tier, why would they spend so much per person to upgrade it? Where is this limitation? Even if it was for something ludicrous, like bragging rights, it would take years to make up the initial investment. I don't blame them, maybe $70-100 dollars goes to just a modem and the rest is to recoup some of the costs. And I'm sure most NY residents earn a pretty high average salary compared to the rest of the country. If somebody wants it, they'll buy it. -- You can't make all the people happy all of the time. But it should be common sense to shoot for the majority.
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Bit Premium join:2009-02-19 00000 ·VOIPo ·Cox HSI	Because the old tier could not handle sustained 20Mb service which is the reason they resort to gimmicks like powerboost. The "old" network was designed for 10Mb service in an era where there wasn't tons of content and even then CV would cap uploads of "excessive" users. Channel bonding will allow them to provide fairly reliable 40-50Mb powerboosted speeds but it simply can't provide capacity in these huge sustained quantities to more than just a couple of users. This tier is all about marketing which is why they have to huge junk fee which insures even less adoption by higher end subscribers.
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atuarre Here come the drums Premium join:2004-02-14 Lake Charles, LA clubs:	said by Bit : Because the old tier could not handle sustained 20Mb service which is the reason they resort to gimmicks like powerboost. The "old" network was designed for 10Mb service in an era where there wasn't tons of content and even then CV would cap uploads of "excessive" users. Channel bonding will allow them to provide fairly reliable 40-50Mb powerboosted speeds but it simply can't provide capacity in these huge sustained quantities to more than just a couple of users. This tier is all about marketing which is why they have to huge junk fee which insures even less adoption by higher end subscribers. You obviously fail to realize the revenue that the ILECs like AT&T, and Verizon bring in, plus access to the universal service fund (that little line on your bill that adds up to billions upon billions of dollars worth of mismanaged money) vs Cable companies income. Sometimes i think people just post stuff, to stir the pot, with no real basis what so ever. Having different divisions, like a wireless division, and a landline division, and long distance helps the telcos.
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ravensfan55 join:2008-06-16 Severna Park, MD ·Verizon FIOS ·Comcast ·Cingular Wireless	reply to Bit Yeah, $300 for a tech to come out and replace a modem is pretty steep. FiOS install was free, and the tech -Ran the fiber drop from the pole to my house -Fed the fiber into the basement -Installed the ONT and BBU -Ran coax to the two splitters I have from the ONT -Configured the ONT and Router -Activated all 3 STBs -Tested to make sure the alarm worked while he was still there -Tested internet speed, HD quality, On Demand, Widgets, and phone service
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rawgerz In Debt we trust Premium join:2004-10-03 Grove City, PA ·Verizon Online DSL ·Sprint Mobile Broa..	reply to Bit Well they don't seem to offer analog tv, and that used up what, 65Mbps? Seems to me like they will have the pipe for it with no analog. After all, what I've come across says the bottle neck for those speeds isn't the coax, just yet, it's the hardware and 3.0 is supposed to remedy that. -- You can't make all the people happy all of the time. But it should be common sense to shoot for the majority.
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Bit Premium join:2009-02-19 00000 ·VOIPo ·Cox HSI 3 edits	reply to atuarre You're right, it does appear some people just post stuff just to post stuff. No other cable operator is charging a $300 activation fee on top of an install fee. Not Comcast, not Cox. Of course Verizon's overall revenues are higher. They have millions and millions of subscribers. Those larger revenues also have to support an aged and huge infrastructure (their expenses are higher by far). But in the scale that matters, per subscriber revenues, Cablevision is near the top of the industry. So Verizon spends 3X Cablevision's entire revenue deploying FiOS and still doesn't have to charge for an install. In fact I can't think of any cable operator who charges $335 in activation and install fees. Cox certainly doesn't, they charge $100 for install. Comcast doesn't. Despite the expense of installing an ONT and pulling cable, Verizon doesn't charge for the install either. Fact is there is simply no justification for such exorbitant junk/install fees other than Cablevision desperately wants to avoid too many people signing up because their network couldn't handle more than a few users local to each other on that tier. At the same time they want to mislead people/media about the price with big print $99 pricing with the real cost buried in the fine print. Simply put, Cablevision wants to be able to make the claim of "fastest broadband service" while having a scant few actually take them up on the offer because their newly upgrade network isn't up to the task.
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