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unknvoip
WWJID?

join:2006-07-25
Rochester, NY
·ViaTalk

Beta Lab - Did I miss something?

Just saw a change to the CP that I know wasn't there yesterday and then I checked for info in the Beta Lab. Recent entries have moved to released and a new batch is listed under beta. They are:
quote:
Just Added Voicemail Notifications now available via AOL Instant Messenger.

Just Added Customizable Notification Formats let you change the text formatting on your voicemail alerts.

Just Added Blacklist by Caller ID allow you to block incoming calls by name using full or partial text matches.

Just Added Outgoing Call Routing lets you control what happens when certain numbers are dialed. Examples: Map 311 to a local number or block the kids from calling certain numbers.

Just Added Pattern Match Filters Whitelists - Use Pattern Match Filters with your Whitelist to allow groups of numbers to bypass existing filters.


dcurrey
Premium
join:2004-06-29

Re: Beta Lab - Did I miss something?

Now I can block all the "800 Service" calls.

unknvoip
WWJID?

join:2006-07-25
Rochester, NY
·ViaTalk

More testing later, but a couple things I saw:

I configured my notification format, but it only applies to SMS, not my Email. I would like to modify the Email message too.

Pattern match Whitelist - The whitelist has checkmarks for DND and Pattern match. When you create a new rule and check these boxes, the rule gets created without the boxes checked. This needs fixing.

Nice job though adding things that we have been asking for. The Pattern Match/Whitelist is an issue I had and asked for a while ago. Thanks!

dcurrey
Premium
join:2004-06-29

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Re: Beta Lab - Did I miss something?

I haven't fully tested it yet but it looks like it alters email format correctly. At least it show it in CP.

edit: Yea it worked correctly.

unknvoip
WWJID?

join:2006-07-25
Rochester, NY

Re: Beta Lab - Did I miss something?

I see. It will format the 'Additional Notifications', but does not format the Email address set up to receive a WAV file attachment of the message.

That seems like an oversight to me.

dcurrey
Premium
join:2004-06-29

Re: Beta Lab - Did I miss something?

Maybe they should combine them. Just have a checkbox to include wav file.

VTJosh

join:2007-07-19
Clifton Park, NY

said by unknvoip See Profile :

I see. It will format the 'Additional Notifications', but does not format the Email address set up to receive a WAV file attachment of the message.

That seems like an oversight to me.
Not an oversight - they're two separate mechanisms. Custom notifications were added primarily for use with SMS messages as many people requested different information to be included. That way people with simple SMS can customize their notification to say within 160 chars, and other people with mobile email can include more info if they want.

Originally, we had not planned on adjusting the primary email, however, I've started alpha testing this afternoon. This may be added as an update at some point in the future.

- Josh

unknvoip
WWJID?

join:2006-07-25
Rochester, NY

Re: Beta Lab - Did I miss something?

A question on the Route by Caller ID Name feature. What CID Name info does it use? If you have defined a Custom CID name, will it filter on that or the CID Name info supplied with the call, or either?

Thanks.

dcurrey
Premium
join:2004-06-29

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Re: Beta Lab - Did I miss something?

I was wondering that myself.

Edit: Just tested it uses the real callerid info.

VTEric

join:2008-08-27
Clifton Park, NY

Re: Beta Lab - Did I miss something?

said by dcurrey See Profile :

Edit: Just tested it uses the real callerid info.
Correct. It will use the original caller ID information.
SuperHemp

join:2007-08-15
Burnt Hills, NY

Re: Beta Lab - Did I miss something?

Route by Caller ID Name:

Should also have SIMULRING ring it it too.

I think..

VTJosh

join:2007-07-19
Clifton Park, NY

Re: Beta Lab - Did I miss something?

said by SuperHemp See Profile :

Route by Caller ID Name:

Should also have SIMULRING ring it it too.

I think..
Simultaneous ring isn't an option for Route by Caller ID name currently. We'll look into that further to see if it is a possibility for a future update.

- Josh
RogerD

join:2008-07-15
Sunnyvale, CA

Has the custom notification been dropped? A VM was left yesterday and both the SMS and eMail notification seems to have dropped back to a standard format. I checked my account and the custom format is still defined.

Sending the default message as Your VoiceMail Service is a bit presumptuous... Is that VT, CallCentric, at&t, Gizmo, or heaven forbid the office? That's why I did a custom format to identify where the message came from.

dcurrey
Premium
join:2004-06-29
·ViaTalk

Didn't notice this before but you have what I guess can be called selective Simultaneous Ring.

Its under incoming call routing.

New Addition - Simultaneous Ring
Choose SIMULRING as the route option and enter a number under Forward/Simul to have a call route ring an additional phone simultaneously.

unknvoip
WWJID?

join:2006-07-25
Rochester, NY

Re: Beta Lab - Did I miss something?

I didn't notice it either. Very nice.

XPAMD
Premium
join:2002-06-08
united state
·ViaTalk

One problem I'm having(or I'm missing somthing) is the wildcard whitelist. I type 1AAA (a being area code), but won't take that, says it required 11 digits. Is there a specific wildcard that is not currently being listed as an example as to how to format it?

VTJosh

join:2007-07-19
Clifton Park, NY


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Re: Beta Lab - Did I miss something?

said by XPAMD See Profile :

One problem I'm having(or I'm missing somthing) is the wildcard whitelist. I type 1AAA (a being area code), but won't take that, says it required 11 digits. Is there a specific wildcard that is not currently being listed as an example as to how to format it?
The Pattern Match checkbox on the Whitelist page allows a number that is blacklisted via pattern match filters to ring through to your phone. IE: If you have 518 blacklisted (via pattern matching) you can add 15189998888 as a Whitelist entry with Pattern Match selected. Then that number will be able to ring through to your phone. You'd still need to enter an 11 digit number.

Previously the Whitelist only applied to standard Custom Call Routes.

- Josh

Edit: It appears this is mislabeled on the Beta Lab page. I'll make sure it's corrected tomorrow to avoid further confusion. Sorry about that.

XPAMD
Premium
join:2002-06-08
united state
·ViaTalk

Re: Beta Lab - Did I miss something?

said by VTJosh See Profile :

said by XPAMD See Profile :

One problem I'm having(or I'm missing somthing) is the wildcard whitelist. I type 1AAA (a being area code), but won't take that, says it required 11 digits. Is there a specific wildcard that is not currently being listed as an example as to how to format it?
The Pattern Match checkbox on the Whitelist page allows a number that is blacklisted via pattern match filters to ring through to your phone. IE: If you have 518 blacklisted (via pattern matching) you can add 15189998888 as a Whitelist entry with Pattern Match selected. Then that number will be able to ring through to your phone. You'd still need to enter an 11 digit number.

Previously the Whitelist only applied to standard Custom Call Routes.

- Josh

Edit: It appears this is mislabeled on the Beta Lab page. I'll make sure it's corrected tomorrow to avoid further confusion. Sorry about that.
What I was hoping for was the ability to whitelist via patternmatch. I use a Persistant DND...whitelist allows the numbers I want to go through to pass without being sent to VM due to the DND.

Such as It would be okay for a specific area code or area code+XXX to pass. Basicallly instead of blocking the calls I don't want on a case by case basis Everybody is blocked. Then I add Friend and Family and Businesses that I choose into the whitelist.

99% of the calls that I want blocked are not from my local area code.

VTJosh

join:2007-07-19
Clifton Park, NY

Re: Beta Lab - Did I miss something?

said by XPAMD See Profile :

What I was hoping for was the ability to whitelist via patternmatch. I use a Persistant DND...whitelist allows the numbers I want to go through to pass without being sent to VM due to the DND.

Such as It would be okay for a specific area code or area code+XXX to pass. Basicallly instead of blocking the calls I don't want on a case by case basis Everybody is blocked. Then I add Friend and Family and Businesses that I choose into the whitelist.

99% of the calls that I want blocked are not from my local area code.
We'll look further into that to see if it is something that can be added to the existing whitelist feature.

- Josh

unknvoip
WWJID?

join:2006-07-25
Rochester, NY
·ViaTalk

Re: Beta Lab - Did I miss something?

I would like to second XPAMD See Profile's request for a pattern match ability to the whitelist. I too have considered blocking all callers except those on a whitelist, but would like to add a list of NPA's without having to add every number from areas I expect calls.

I have another question as to how people would use the pattern matched Incoming call routing feature with the new Pattern match Whitelist.

I am trying to figure out if there is ever a situation where you would not want a number in your whitelist to ring through, even if it matched a pattern based rule in your call routing (DND excepted)? The DND check box makes perfect sense to me from the standpoint that the number should not be blocked by call routing, but not allowed to get through a 'nap time' (or whenever DND is set).

I would be happy to hear any scenario that I may not have thought of.

dcurrey
Premium
join:2004-06-29
·ViaTalk


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Re: Beta Lab - Did I miss something?

If I understand the feature correctly.

Say you route all calls from 1912555XXXX to voicemail
So in Route By Pattern Match Filters would have
1912555 going to voicemail
If you place the number 19125551234 in whitelist and click on pattern match it would allow that 1 number to ring your phone.

unknvoip
WWJID?

join:2006-07-25
Rochester, NY
·ViaTalk

Re: Beta Lab - Did I miss something?

Exactly how I believe it behaves. Now I realize I didn't ask my question in the most clear manor, so I will expand on your example.

Suppose you click off the pattern match box in the Whitelist. That same call will go to voicemail, same as if the number is not in the list at all. What point does it make to have to explicitly click the pattern match box?

dcurrey
Premium
join:2004-06-29
·ViaTalk


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Re: Beta Lab - Did I miss something?

Well after giving this some thought I can't think of any reason why you would create a whitelist entry and not want it to override the pattern match rules.

Now I didn't check pattern match on my 2 whitelist entries. They are to simple get past DnD. Have nothing in pattern match that would effect them anyway.

What kills me is I put an entry in to block "Gallop Poll" and wouldn't you know those bastards called my later that day anonymously.

Its like they know what I did.

Ha they just tried again. That time CallerId name blocked them. Sweet.

Also I turned on annon authentication. If it wasn't for my sister I could just block them all.
RogerD

join:2008-07-15
Sunnyvale, CA

Does anyone have custom notifications set and getting them? I've gone in and resubmitted mine and still getting a default format.

Submitted ticket. Let's see how long that takes...

unknvoip
WWJID?

join:2006-07-25
Rochester, NY
·ViaTalk

Re: Beta Lab - Did I miss something?

I have verified that I have Custom notifications set up and working properly. I have one format going to my work Email and another being sent to my phone as an SMS message. The two formats are different and both work properly.

Keep us posted, RogerD See Profile, and let us know how your ticket is handled.

VTJosh

join:2007-07-19
Clifton Park, NY
Can you tell me your ticket number, RogerD?
RogerD

join:2008-07-15
Sunnyvale, CA

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Ticket ID: VQV-49423

Sent copies of CP entry and the SMS & eMail received...

VTJosh

join:2007-07-19
Clifton Park, NY

Re: Beta Lab - Did I miss something?

It looks like Eric wrote back to your ticket earlier today indicating the issue with your notifications should be resolved.
RogerD

join:2008-07-15
Sunnyvale, CA

... I don't know what was changed, but now calls don't make it to VM.

Call rings and then goes quiet... Shows as answered in the call log but no VM greeting, no VM message, and no VM notification. We've gone backwards. Ooops.
RogerD

join:2008-07-15
Sunnyvale, CA

Turned out I had SimRing set to an old OnStar account and it appears that account is set to answer calls and all you get is dead air. Called OnStar and they don't care...

Changed the numbers in SimRing and all is well. It would have been nice if the call log showed which number the call went too. Save some frustration and a few support contacts. Would that qualify for cost-benefit justification?
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