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tiger72
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Re: Stupid

said by Morac:

AT&T's statement is just stupid for a number of reasons:

1. Bandwidth is bandwidth. It doesn't matter if you are streaming from Hulu or a Slingbox, especially since the Slingbox app is limits its stream to 500 kbps.

2. Other AT&T supported devices, like the BlackBerry, allow Slingbox to stream via 3G. Also ORB works on the iPhone via 3G.

3. The iPhone works on other networks besides AT&T's. AT&T shouldn't care what anyone does on other networks.

So basically AT&T seems to be discriminating specifically against the iPhone for some reason. I can't figure out why exactly though. Even if AT&T wanted to sell their own video service, that doesn't explain why they allow Sling on Blackberry's.

Note, I don't have an iPhone, I just think it's a dumb move on AT&T's part.
They're not discriminating against the iphone. They're discriminating against slingbox. Unlike ORB, Slingbox is basically plug-and-play, so it's far more likely to get used by a wider audience than ORB does.

ATT's 3g network is already strained. Adding more load to it for something high demand like streaming TV isn't in their interests. Especially since people would notice how oversaturated ATT's network is and call in to complain.

ATT sells TV services, and they're working on their own video system that would work with uverse to compete with slingbox. Has nothing to do with the iphone. If the blackberry app store had a slingbox app, they'd not allow that over 3g either.
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said by tiger72:

They're not discriminating against the iphone. ... If the blackberry app store had a slingbox app, they'd not allow that over 3g either.
There is a blackberry Sling app and it does support 3G. My brother has a BlackBerry Bold and it works on his phone. So AT&T is definitely discriminating against the iPhone here. My only guess as to why is that the iPhone is more popular and that AT&T has more leverage over Apple than Blackberry.


Matt
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said by Morac:

said by tiger72:

They're not discriminating against the iphone. ... If the blackberry app store had a slingbox app, they'd not allow that over 3g either.
There is a blackberry Sling app and it does support 3G. My brother has a BlackBerry Bold and it works on his phone. So AT&T is definitely discriminating against the iPhone here. My only guess as to why is that the iPhone is more popular and that AT&T has more leverage over Apple than Blackberry.
I'm also guessing that not as many BB users would care to watch video on a 1.5" screen at a crappy resolution. Most BB users are business-types also who don't care for such things.

kevinzak76

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said by Matt:

said by Morac:

said by tiger72:

They're not discriminating against the iphone. ... If the blackberry app store had a slingbox app, they'd not allow that over 3g either.
There is a blackberry Sling app and it does support 3G. My brother has a BlackBerry Bold and it works on his phone. So AT&T is definitely discriminating against the iPhone here. My only guess as to why is that the iPhone is more popular and that AT&T has more leverage over Apple than Blackberry.
I'm also guessing that not as many BB users would care to watch video on a 1.5" screen at a crappy resolution. Most BB users are business-types also who don't care for such things.
i do. the Slingplayer on my Bold works phenomenally well. the picture quality is near perfect quality. it may sometimes drop its quality for a few seconds to compensate for latency, but 95% of the time it is near perfect. on wifi, its closer to 100%. i think the most data i have used in a month using my slingplayer is 700 MB - that is watching about an hour a day 5 days a week on my lunch break.


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This is more of what I am referring to: »www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/07/···t-there/

Look at the first picture in that link. Which do you think would be better to watch movies on? Therefore, more users would watch movies on the iPhone than would on the BB platform, hence AT&T's concern.


kevinzak76

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Buffalo, NY

well, yes the screen is larger, but the Bold has a better picture quality per pixel. the bold is 480x320 and the iPhone is 320x480, but the iPhone's screen is larger, hence the pixels are "stretched" so to speak. i was simply disputing that point that you stated the Bold had a "crappy" resolution - its actually outstanding.

and while i agree that the slingplayer should NOT be blocked in any way shape or form, its easy to see why the company would want to. anyone who owns a slingbox would need NO need for any video services. i get full frame rate high quality video "slung" from a STB in my house, meaning i have access to DVR functions, OnDemand, hundreds of channels, etc.


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