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iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
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reply to fgoldstein

Re: Two problems, don't conflate them

The thing is, middle mile prices are falling. A year and a half ago Qwest came to my current WiSP and said "we can beat your current AT&T DS3 quote". They did, by $1000...so now my ISP is paying $9000 a month for a T3 with less IP space than AT&T gave them.

Now, I'm getting T3 quotes of around $4500. Still frightfully expensive since I'm out in the sticks (a T1 is $600 here if you ask in the right places, $1200 if you ask in the wrong ones). However things are looking up for rural places bandwidth wise.

The only people loud enough to cry about the bandwidth apocalypse are those who don't want to upgrade their (large) DOCSIS-based networks as far as I can tell. Oh, and wireless networks. And maybe VDSL networks (AT&T). Fiber optic providers aren't complaining, and DOCSIS 3 providers aren't either to any huge extent. Hmm...

Skippy25

join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO

In addition the biggest problem is that the middle mile is still mainly controlled by the same incumbents that control the last mile.

The incumbents are the problem at every part of the network because they are trying to maximize short term profits and will sacrifice anything to do it.


iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2

Things really get dicey when there's no last mile as far as internet goes. You heard me right...Qwest and AT&T are the cheapest T1 providers for loop and port here. Verizon is the ILEC and they don't even have DSL. *groan*


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