hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
 ·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable
| Won't be hard
It won't be hard to convince anyone. And how says they'll have to do it to start off with?
All VZ will do is pass around some money they'll get a few conditions and the deal will be done. Especially with Ohio and Michigan who will be glad to see VZ go and someone else take over.
Since GTE merged with VZ service went down hill and prices went up. |
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baineschile
2600
Premium
join:2008-05-10
Sterling Heights, MI | Verizon doesnt have a footprint at all in the metro detroit area, only more rural areas far north of Detroit. They were never going to do Fios here, so there is no point in keeping the system |
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cdru
Go Colts
Premium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
| reply to hottboiinnc
said by hottboiinnc  :Since GTE merged with VZ service went down hill and prices went up. What hasn't gone up in the past decade. Looking back at their prices, you could get smoking fast 1.5mbit DSL for $215! Now I get 20/5 service for about $50/month. Then I could have gotten DirecTV's Total Choice Sports Package for around $40 that had over 100 (!!!) channels. Now I can get over 100 (!!!) HD channels, plus a few hundred Sd channels, VOD, etc for a little more. |
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SuperJoker
join:2005-11-21
Yermo, CA
 ·Verizon Online DSL
·Verizon west (ex G..
| said by cdru :said by hottboiinnc :Since GTE merged with VZ service went down hill and prices went up. What hasn't gone up in the past decade. Looking back at their prices, you could get smoking fast 1.5mbit DSL for $215! Now I get 20/5 service for about $50/month. Then I could have gotten DirecTV's Total Choice Sports Package for around $40 that had over 100 (!!!) channels. Now I can get over 100 (!!!) HD channels, plus a few hundred SD channels, VOD, etc for a little more. Oh lucky You. |
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cdru
Go Colts
Premium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
| said by SuperJoker :Oh lucky You. Even if I didn't have FiOS, the same argument applies. Current DSL rates are $20/30/43 per month for 1/3/7.1 service. All far less then what they were a decade ago. And if you don't have FiOS available, the price of TV through Verizon hasn't really changed as it's still not available to you. |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | reply to baineschile
VZ offers service in south eastern MI as well. Former GTE areas. In Blissfield they actually have a CLEC that is deploying VDSL IPTV to compete against them. |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | reply to cdru
and with VZ areas still pay out the ass for DSL. Try ~$50 for basic in some areas of Ohio. VZ rapes their customers and makes the cities they service to find other service providers that are willing to service. |
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SuperJoker
join:2005-11-21
Yermo, CA
·Verizon Online DSL
·Verizon west (ex G..
1 edit | reply to cdru
said by cdru :said by SuperJoker :Oh lucky You. Even if I didn't have FiOS, the same argument applies. Current DSL rates are $20/30/43 per month for 1/3/7.1 service. All far less then what they were a decade ago. And if you don't have FiOS available, the price of TV through Verizon hasn't really changed as it's still not available to you. Who says I even want TV through VZ? I like Dish Network very much thank you.
VZ customer service has been a nightmare. |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | Id pick anything over Telco TV any day. |
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jester121
Premium
join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL
 ·surpasshosting
 ·ViaTalk
| reply to hottboiinnc
said by hottboiinnc :and with VZ areas still pay out the ass for DSL. Try ~$50 for basic in some areas of Ohio. VZ rapes their customers and makes the cities they service to find other service providers that are willing to service. Oh, companies like Hawaii Telecom and Fairpoint that flounder around and declare bankruptcy? 
If I had a choice between paying less to an incompetent company that can't manage their business or a bit more to a proven provider like Verizon, the choice is pretty clear -- at least to rational people who aren't jaded to hate any big company just because. |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
Premium
join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·Comcast
| said by jester121 :Oh, companies like Hawaii Telecom and Fairpoint that flounder around and declare bankruptcy? . They went in to bankruptcy because they caved in to regulators and agreed on rates that couldn't earn a profit. Stupid move by them, but also on the regulators for forcing terms that guaranteed bankruptcy. |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | Right. |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable
| reply to jester121
And I WOULD NOT do business with VZ. I'd pick Hawaii Telcom and Fairpoint over them.
By the way have you ever used Fairpoint services? Has anyone on here used Fairpoint besides the New England states that they picked up from VZ?
Well I can tell you that in Ohio the areas that have them, have NO problems at all. |
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jester121
Premium
join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL
·surpasshosting
·ViaTalk
| said by hottboiinnc :Well I can tell you that in Ohio the areas that have them, have NO problems at all. Wonder why they even have a customer service phone number, since things run so smoothly?
Hyperbole much? |
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spewak
R.I.P Dadkins
Premium
join:2001-08-07
Elk Grove, CA
·SureWest Internet
·FrontierNet Intern..
| reply to hottboiinnc
said by hottboiinnc :and with VZ areas still pay out the ass for DSL. Try ~$50 for basic in some areas of Ohio. VZ rapes their customers and makes the cities they service to find other service providers that are willing to service. Welcome to the new Frontier as their advertising goes, As they play by the same rules!
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The weekend is here, grab a can of beer! |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable
| reply to jester121
Gotta have it to order products and pay your bill if you want to do it on the phone.
But FairPoint doesn't have the issues there like everyone claims in the New England States. People knew from the get go there would be problems. The people that did not take the steps to be ready are stupid and deserve what they get. you can't tell me that none of them knew that they would end up getting a new email address and that there would be no downtime. Anyone that is dumb enough to believe that doesn't even deserve the right to have email to start off with, let alone use their ISP for email. |
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UnhappyTVFan
@verizon.net
| reply to SuperJoker
Because we don't want to lose our trees, we can't go the satelite route. And, we don't want to go back to Comcrap, so that leaves us with whatever Frontier wants to give us.
The newspaper says we will likely loose the all the online perks and benefits we get with Verizon FIOS internet, as well as settling for far fewer TV channels than we have now, losing our fantastic picture quality, our multiroom DVRs, and other FIOS TV benefits that no one else offers.
This will be the first big degradation of service that we've ever had since getting cable TV in the 80s. How can we fight this I don't know but I'm not caving in yet. |
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SuperJoker
join:2005-11-21
Yermo, CA | Good for You, I hope You don't lose too much. Of course here in the desert trees normally are planted by People and I don't have any blocking the southern view of the sky, Only snow on Dish will do that sometimes. |
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vinnie97
join:2003-12-05
Mesquite, TX | reply to hottboiinnc
Except TelcoTV (in the case of Verizon) looks the best. |
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Mark F
join:2007-08-01
Fort Wayne, IN
| reply to SuperJoker
Not everyone is willing to sacrifice their trees to get satelite service. And, I like FIOS VOD very much.
As for Comcast, we were glad to leave their awfull service and bad equipment and get FIOS TV. FIOS is, by far, the best that we've ever had. Nothing came close. They have a good many channels that Comcast doesn't have and many other features.
And, even though we've had FIOS for less than two years, we love the many hundreds of SD channels (the highest channel is ch. 1951), the over 100 HD channels, Urge and Music Choice, their outstanding movie package (with VOD) and especially the ability to record something in one room and watch it in another room with the MRDVR.
We don't want to lose any of that, but we may lose it all when Frontier takes over and decides that they can run a TV service like we have now. Or, anything close to what we have. That's both sad and scary.
Mark F. |
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