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e94mli

join:2009-04-07

reply to Acanac PN

Re: PPPoE session from Montreal terminating in Toronto???

The modem is the one that came with the service Aztech 605EU.

Sounds like a DSLAM - modem incompatibility that gives the strange readings.


Acanac PN
Acanac Support
Premium
join:2008-10-27
Montreal, QC

Your modem is good, actually.
I tried many other modems on same scenario(My DSL) and some (old ones) don't work at all or hardly sync at 1-2M
The Bell technician's yellow diagnostics tool didn't sync at all, either.

Otherwise, my and your DSL is considered as good ones

And they are!

Thanks.


planiwa

join:2009-02-19
Toronto M5S

reply to e94mli

said by e94mli:

The modem is the one that came with the service Aztech 605EU.

Sounds like a DSLAM - modem incompatibility that gives the strange readings.
Could you please post your modem's line stats?
In fact, since you sound like you are able to do it, could you please post the more complete stats:

telnet, then:

cat /proc/*/*m_s*

Thanks!

e94mli

join:2009-04-07

Here you go:
AR7 DSL Modem Statistics:
--------------------------------
[DSL Modem Stats]
US Connection Rate: 736 DS Connection Rate: 5056
DS Line Attenuation: 9 DS Margin: 24
US Line Attenuation: 20 US Margin: 6
US Payload : 876087840 DS Payload: 2706042272
US Superframe Cnt : 34897832 DS Superframe Cnt: 34897832
US Transmit Power : 12 DS Transmit Power: 3
LOS errors: 0 SEF errors: 0
Errored Seconds: 0 Severely Err Secs: 0
Frame mode: 3 Max Frame mode: 0
Trained Path: 1 US Peak Cell Rate: 1735
Trained Mode: 2 Selected Mode: 65535
ATUC Vendor Code: 494B4E53 ATUC Revision: 2
Hybrid Selected: 3 Trellis: 1
Showtime Count: 2 DS Max Attainable Bit Rate: 11296 kbps
BitSwap: 1 US Max Attainable Bit Rate: n/a
Annex: AnxA psd_mask_qualifier: 0x0000
Power Management Status: L0 DS HLINSC: 0
US ACTPSD: -345 DS ACTPSD: -425
Total init. errors: 0 Total init. timeouts: 0
Showtime init. errors: 0 Showtime init. timeouts: 0
Last showtime init. errors: 0 Last showtime init. timeouts: 0
ATUC ghsVid: b5 00 49 4b 4e 53 01 00
T1413Vid: 00 00 T1413Rev: 00 VendorRev: 00
ATUR ghsVid: b5 00 54 53 54 43 00 00
T1413Vid: 00 00 T1413Rev: 00 VendorRev: 00

[Upstream (TX) Interleave path]
CRC: 2 FEC: 3746 NCD: 0
LCD: 0 HEC: 68

[Downstream (RX) Interleave path]
CRC: 0 FEC: 0 NCD: 0
LCD: 0 HEC: 0

[Upstream (TX) Fast path]
CRC: 0 FEC: 0 NCD: 1
LCD: 0 HEC: 0

[Downstream (RX) Fast path]
CRC: 0 FEC: 0 NCD: 0
LCD: 0 HEC: 0

[ATM Stats]
[Upstream/TX]
Good Cell Cnt: 18251830
Idle Cell Cnt: 1011563439

Tx Packets Dropped Count: 0
Tx Bad Packets Count: 24

[Downstream/RX)]
Good Cell Cnt: 145854366
Idle Cell Cnt: 2633561468
Bad Hec Cell Cnt: 0
Overflow Dropped Cell Cnt: 0
Rx Packets Dropped Count: 0
Rx Bad Packets Count: 0

[SAR AAL5 Stats]
Tx PDU's: 8473300
Rx PDU's: 10840400
Tx Total Bytes: 1237212299
Rx Total Bytes: 3087032143
Tx Total Error Counts: 0
Rx Total Error Counts: 0

[OAM Stats]
Near End F5 Loop Back Count: 0
Near End F4 Loop Back Count: 0
Far End F5 Loop Back Count: 0
Far End F4 Loop Back Count: 0
SAR OAM Ping Response Drop Count=15


planiwa

join:2009-02-19
Toronto M5S

IKNS identified -- PPPoE session from MTL terminating in To?

said by e94mli:

US Connection Rate: 736 DS Connection Rate: 5056
DS Line Attenuation: 9 DS Margin: 24
US Line Attenuation: 20 US Margin: 6
US Transmit Power : 12 DS Transmit Power: 3
ATUC Vendor Code: 494B4E53 ATUC Revision: 2
Showtime Count: 2 DS Max Attainable Bit Rate: 11296 kbps
ATUC ghsVid: b5 00 49 4b 4e 53 01 00
[Upstream (TX) Interleave path]
CRC: 2 FEC: 3746 NCD: 0
LCD: 0 HEC: 68
YES!!!!!

494B4E53

You are the first to confirm what looks like a way for Aztech modem users to identity IKNS DSLAM devices.

Thank you!


Acanac PN
Acanac Support
Premium
join:2008-10-27
Montreal, QC

clarification
49=I
4B=K
4E=N
53=S

494B4E53=IKNS


e94mli

join:2009-04-07

And now explain IKNS... I've seen IKNS mentioned in the forum a couple of times but I don't know of any DSLAM called IKNS, although I only know Alcatel and Ericsson so I might be lost.



Acanac PN
Acanac Support
Premium
join:2008-10-27
Montreal, QC

It should be some abbreviation but the meaning is type (brand) of CO equipment used in DSL . I think, it is Canadian made
For some reason, it behaves different than classic ones and creates some support troubles, as you see.
I am trying to find any official information on that as many people do.
On Bell site I've seen discussions where they claim that all IKNS-reported problems were minor and fixable by other means (something like this).
In two words:

The user is very close to CO but upstream is not synchronizing at full 800 and/or NM is shown very low, say 6dB.
Some strange interleave modem reporting on AL1 profiles and/or higher pings.

Unfortunately, 70% of cases I open recently seem to be in this category.

Best regards.


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