 baineschile2600 ways to livePremium
join:2008-05-10
Sterling Heights, MI | LTE2 2018, 35Mbps wireless. AvCONE technologies.
Just makes me wonder how fast wired connections will be at that point.... |
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me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO | I am more concerned with the cap than speed. |
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 en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Same here - I'd personally take a +20GB cap with 500kbps-1.5Mbps before I'd take a 3Mbps with 5GB cap.
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 BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | reply to baineschile
said by baineschile:2018, 35Mbps wireless. AvCONE technologies. Just makes me wonder how fast wired connections will be at that point.... burn through that 5 GB monthly cap in only 20 minutes! |
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The speed of the device has almost no meaning. It's all about backhaul and spectrum. WiMAX devices already can do 35Mbps (in a lab). The backhaul to the site needs to be enough to get high speeds to every user. MIMO antennas will also probably be needed to get past 10Mbps at distances.
LTE has virtually no technology advantage over WiMAX as they are essentially the same core technology at the physical layer. It's about how the carrier actually delivers it.
Sprint has enough spectrum (about 100mhz per market) to actually deliver ultra high speeds. I believe ATT/Verizon only get about 25Mhz of spectrum in the 700mhz space for LTE. It also depends on how much backhaul they will provide to every site.
WiMAX currently has no cap and if it does, it will probably be more comparable to cable/dsl caps. But will Clearwire have enough capital to roll out nationwide? |
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en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | True - WiMAX has no 'real' advantages over LTE... with the exception of the 'mass scale' of GSMA and its subscriber base. The carrier delivery and roaming agreements are where its being tied up, much as the CDMA ANSI core vs GSM MAP core did. At one time there was an attempt to bridge the CDMA physcial layer to the map core with GSM 1x.
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said by en102:Same here - I'd personally take a +20GB cap with 500kbps-1.5Mbps before I'd take a 3Mbps with 5GB cap. Speak for yourself there - I'd rather 100Mbps with a 10GB cap over 1.5Mbps with a 300GB cap any day - ESPECIALLY on a wireless device. Having the typically small-ish size web content and apps as well as tethered e-mail operate at blazing speeds rather than crawl along uselessly. If I need huge amounts of data, there are places to get that -- it's why I have a server in a rack in a local co-lo datacenter with 2000GB/mo of bandwidth. If I need something huge (>5GB) I initiate the download there and stop by the DC and grab the removable spare drive with my files on it.
When it comes to wireless/mobile data access, it's all about the speed - not the throughput. If you're trying to find your way in an unfamiliar area using a google maps app on your wireless device, you want the pages and maps and street views to load ASAP. You want your emails to appear instant. You want fast - because 99% of the time you're extremely time-constrained when using a mobile internet device - be it a phone or a wireless data card in a laptop. E.g. you're walking down the street in the city with a group of friends and someone says "let's get ice cream" - you need to be able to find the nearest 3-4 ice-cream shoppes in 10-15 seconds and be able to tell the group which way to turn at the next light. You're not trying to download a linux distro, PS3 or X360 games, full length feature film, etc. If you are, maybe you need to re-evaluate how and where and why you are doing those things and what benefit you are getting from it. |
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Re: LTE2 no real advantage? running off battery then LTE is clear advantage over Wimax, uplink is the key to the winner and loser for mobility |
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en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | reply to Hydraglass
Re: LTE2 Most wireless devices would be consuming too much CPU to handle process high data rates to be currently useful.
Email at 1.5Mbps - active sync runs in seconds.
At 100Mbps... it runs in... second or 2 ?
At 1.5Mbps... emails appear in an instant. 100Mbps would give HDTV. I use Google maps, and it does appear in an instant.
Making full use of data over a months period (some YouTube, remote desktop, MS-patching (yeah - If I'm using a datacard... I want to be able to patch my own PC). I may not expect a +300 GB cap... but I do expect a reasonsable amount of use.
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| I agree 100%. I see the wireless carriers' need for _reasonable_ cap, but 5GB is a joke.
I'm happy with the speed of my EVDO connection, it's essentially as fast as the device will handle. OTOH, I bump into that 5GB cap, because I listen to a lot of internet radio. With Hulu, the cap would be a total joke.
I sure wouldn't want to be so limited that I had to stop by the datacenter whenever I needed to download a large file. I'd flat out go back to dial up before I'd put up with a carrier that wouldn't handle large files. |
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