expert007
join:2006-01-10
Buffalo, NY | Fios or Fois
"fiber optic internet speeds"
That's one hell of a sleazy way to advertise. |
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freeze
Magic Murder Bag
Premium
join:2001-05-13
Columbus, OH
 ·RoadRunner Cable
|  said by expert007  :"fiber optic internet speeds" That's one hell of a sleazy way to advertise. That's clever. More than I care to admit. |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | reply to expert007
ATT advertises it that way. So why not Qwest? ATT uses:
Fiber Optic Internet and Speeds, Fiber Optic TV and Fiber Optic phone service. and they're using DSL. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
·Comcast
 ·Qwest.net
 ·magicjack.com
 ·BeeCreek Communica..
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
| True, but AT&T's fiber is less than a mile from your home (less than 3k feet in most cases). Qwest's is 6k feet or more.
No, I'm not standing up for AT&T. They're not fiber optic either. It's just that fiber is closer to the home with them than with Qwest. |
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dynodb
Premium,VIP
join:2004-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
| said by iansltx :True, but AT&T's fiber is less than a mile from your home (less than 3k feet in most cases). Qwest's is 6k feet or more. No, I'm not standing up for AT&T. They're not fiber optic either. It's just that fiber is closer to the home with them than with Qwest. Uhh... wouldn't that depend on the home and location of the particular node? I doubt that AT&T has a FTTN node within 3kft of every home any more than Qwest does. Certainly there are going to be quite a few homes within 3kft or 6kft to a Qwest FTTN DSLAM- they don't go and intentionally locate them at least 6kft from the nearest potential customer.
Besides, the difference between 3kft and 6kft isn't very significant until you're looking at speeds around 18M. At 10-12M, 6kft would be plenty close. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
·Comcast
·Qwest.net
·magicjack.com
·BeeCreek Communica..
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
| It's not the download that I'm focused on, its the upload. ADSL2+ tops out at 1Mbps. AT&T profiles customers at 25/2 for their VDSL product, and broadband packages are up to 1.5 Mbps on the upload side.
As for the Qwest side of things, you are correct that there are plenty of homes within 3k feet of a DSLAM. However with AT&T VDSL MOST homes are under 3k feet away due to the technological limits of VDSL. There are a few homes at 5k feet, but on average people are much closer to an AT&T U-Verse fridge than to Qwest's FTTN equipment.
Again, upload is my big deal and cable's too...unless you're comparing cable with fiber. VDSL gets better upload speeds than ADSL2+ and that's what Qwest is lacking even in their "next generation" areas. At 20 Mbps, they're right in saying that download is "just fine" for most people...provided Qwest actually provisioned their systems to deliver advertised speeds. |
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
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said by freeze :said by expert007 :"fiber optic internet speeds" That's one hell of a sleazy way to advertise. That's clever. More than I care to admit. That's about the same when all the sudden one day they had "digital phone service" and did nothing different.. ie: they just marketed that their service was digital. Oddly enough, that came about the same time Comcast was launching CDV service in the area. |
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silentcid
join:2005-07-27
Glendale, AZ | reply to hottboiinnc
ATT does techincally have fiber optic phone services. Called Uverse. |
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jjeffeory
join:2002-12-04
USA | LOL.
I have U-Verse. It's VDSL Service for the last mile. That's NOT Fiber service, technically... |
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