iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
 ·Comcast
| Qwest = joke In Golden, CO (mere minutes from Denver) there's no ADSL2+. Some people get 7 Mbps, some get 5 Mbps, some get 3, some get 1.5. 896k up. Subtract 15% for ATM overhead and you've got real speeds...during nonpeak hours. The twon is full of college students so if Qwest rolled out decent-speed internet people would buy it, instead of using Comcast. As it stands, nearly everyone uses Comcast.
Note to Qwest: the people who are willing to pay you more per month for internet access CAN tell the difference between 716k (896k * .85) and 2M upload speeds. They can also tell the difference between "7 Mbit" and true 8 Mbit service from Comcast. Heck, they'll even pay more for the 8 Mbit service because it has 2 Mit upload speeds.
Problem is, in order to upgrade upload speeds beyond 1 Mbps, Qwest has to switch to VDSL or fiber. They ditched VDSL just a bit ago, and they certainly aren't going to go to fiber. So looks like they're screwed, especially since their DSL pricing is pretty darned high when you're not getting full 7-meg speeds. |
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dynodbPremium,VIP
join:2004-04-21
Minneapolis, MN | said by iansltx:Problem is, in order to upgrade upload speeds beyond 1 Mbps, Qwest has to switch to VDSL or fiber. They ditched VDSL just a bit ago, and they certainly aren't going to go to fiber. They've been working on VDSL2 for some time now, with hints that it'll be ready for deployment in the near future. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
·Comcast
| Links to this info? I'm only going on what I heard...they shelved Choice, which was their only VDSL product. Then again, Choice maxed out at 3 Mbps.
At this point Qwest seems to be focused on line bonding, which is one way to get halfway-decent upload speeds (around the 1.5 Mbps mark). However this assumes that there are two copper pairs available to put service on per subscriber, and judging by Qwest's current ISP-less DSL costs their 1.5 Mbps upload service will wind up being ridiculously expensive, compared with cable.
As an added bonus, it still won't be able to compete with DOCSIS 3 rollouts. 1.5 Mbps up and even 40 Mbps down is less than 50 Mbps downa nd 10 Mbps up. Unless Qwest prices the 40/1.5 connection below $100 you're back to square one: too little service for too much money. |
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dynodbPremium,VIP
join:2004-04-21
Minneapolis, MN | said by iansltx:Links to this info? I'm only going on what I heard...they shelved Choice, which was their only VDSL product. Then again, Choice maxed out at 3 Mbps. The Choice VDSL that is being phased out is a seperate service using completely different equipment than the VDSL2 service they've been working on.
Don't really know what kind of up/down speeds they'll be offering with it, but VDSL2 is capable of higher up and down speeds than ADSL2+. |
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·WOW Internet and..
| Choice was only in one or two markets wasn't it? and one of the oldest VDSL networks in the country run by a MaBell and they were the first MaBell Telco to offer IPTV as well.
Qwest's problem is the rural area. They need to ditch the copper and anything land based and run with wireless. WiMAX or something that is out now. Screw LTE. |
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said by dynodb:They've been working on VDSL2 for some time now, with hints that it'll be ready for deployment in the near future. This is good news! I was wondering what the hell was the point of doing ADSL2+, considering its limitations. |
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dynodbPremium,VIP
join:2004-04-21
Minneapolis, MN | said by cyclone_z:This is good news! I was wondering what the hell was the point of doing ADSL2+, considering its limitations. Because ADSL2+ is better than ADSL, which has even greater limitations.
VDSL2 is still quite new; keep in mind that the ball got rolling on the ADSL2+ plans in late 2007. Short of FTTH (which they weren't going to do), the choice at time was either ADSL2+ stay with ADSL; VDSL2 wasn't really much of an option yet. |
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dynodbPremium,VIP
join:2004-04-21
Minneapolis, MN | reply to hottboiinnc
WiMax has many of the same kind of limitations (and some additional ones) as DSL. If I remember correctly, Qwest was playing around with the idea of WiMax at one time, but it never really took off- for Qwest or in general. |
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said by dynodb:said by iansltx:Problem is, in order to upgrade upload speeds beyond 1 Mbps, Qwest has to switch to VDSL or fiber. They ditched VDSL just a bit ago, and they certainly aren't going to go to fiber. They've been working on VDSL2 for some time now, with hints that it'll be ready for deployment in the near future. Yes another great move. Do not even have th 20 meg service rolled out now onto the next technology. They could have gone straight to VDSL2 but no. Or another type of adsl. |
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