Palm Pre Arrives June 6 > about time

reply to stretch1971

Re: about time

Why do that when you can get a higher quality iphone or rimm for cheaper?

reply to baineschile
"high quality" huh?

So far, the iPhone doesn't do picture mail, can't even cut and paste text, can only run one application at a time, can't handle flash or java... but it's a "higher quality" phone... and you haven't even put a finger on the Pre?

It's not always about "cheaper" for people.. If Motorola made a phone that did what I needed it to, and had been well thought out, I'd have no problem shelling out $500 for one, subsidized even. "value" whether anyone likes to admit it or not, is still a valid term these days. What good is any phone that doesn't do what you want it to do just becuase it's cheaper?

I have a black berry curve 8310 on American Theives & Thugs networks, and a Moto 9QC on Sprint. I'm not happy with either phone, ESPECIALLY the Crack Berry, or as I call it, today's best DOS-BASED appearing phone pushed on to so many people I can't believe it. (For the BB, I'm talking about it's use. It has an OKAY front screen that's graphic, but the rest of the phone looks like it's about to ask me "do you want to play a game?" ... not to mention the web browser is totally a POS in my view. I get it.. it does email.. so does my 9Q, which does just as good as the crack berry)

Seriously.. how can you compare a phone that's not even out yet? I NEVER trust, on face value, the word of any "critic".. everyone has opinions and we all know the saying about opinions.

So far, what I see of features, the PRE, as of right now, blows the iPhone out of the water. A phone that's $300 which is FAR less than any iPhone hugging fan paid for their first phones... comparatively speaking, I think Palm came to the table ready to play right away. How many tries has it taken apple with the iPhone to get it right? .. to be honest, they still haven't. They're on their now upcoming 3rd release of the phone.. (or, are they doing that to suck more money from those that believe the iPhone is a drug and they need more?)

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reply to PamelaTS
I agree, Sprint left such a bad taste in my mouth that unfortunately I won't even consider this. Too bad to....I'm now in the market for several phones.

reply to Matt
Yes.. MMS.. and that IS being added to the 3.0 release.

And, when you put out a full fledged browser, and with sites requiring Java for things like logging in, etc.. I'd say that it's pretty important. Flash, sure, I can do with out for the most part..

I can't say I side with you on the java based phones as being horrid. Even with all my Nextel phones, I was perfectly happy with the performance of Java on them.. of all phones.

And, you are right.. "there is an app for that".. if you want to use an app for something.. however, like I said, there are sites that do require java.. I have my iTouch for the main reason that I want to access some utility websites that I want to have the ability to access on the go... and with the lack of Java support in the browser, there is no app in the app store to help me out.

Edit:
Actually, never mind the Java.. I was thinking of something else, somewhat relates.. Still, flash I could honestly care less about.

reply to fiberguy
Personally.. I haven't put a finger on either the Pre or iPhone.
I actually liked the Crackberry (even though I used it on Nextel) - it was VERY business oriented - great for email/contacts - better than WinMo, IMO.

Problem with Pre is similar to that with iPhone - limited to a single carrier, in this case Sprint. Personally, I prefer the use of SIM cards (don't want to take my Tilt fishing - I leave that to my old beater Samsung zx-20).

On another note, if I'm using a PDA style device, I NEED the following:

1. Email (duh)
2. SSH client (pocket PuTTy works on WinMo - FREE - work requirement)
3. IRC client (tunneled over SSH - work requirement)
4. Remote Desktop client (work requirement).

The one problem that I've had with Sprint (I use both Sprint- Treo 800w and AT&T HTC Tilt) is that my SSH tunnel will drop when I have an inbound call, which can make my job difficult.
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Supposedly, the Pre will be made available to other networks after a while.. it's just being launched on Sprint. BUT, I have a sneaky suspicion if the Pre takes off, I'm guessing that Sprint will try to work out an exclusive deal with Palm.. I don't think that will be hard though...

AT&T has the iPhone, for now at least.. so I don't see them taking the Pre on-board.

Verizon has a habit of striping devices down, and I'm not sure that Palm would want their device, that they've put a lot of thought into, dumbed down or crippled.. who knows though..

It's really hard to say what the future holds.

Personally, I'm actually out the door right now to go pick up a netbook anyway. I LOVE my laptop.. actually, I have two. I have a 15" wide and a 17" wide screen.. the 17" is the one I use most. BUT, there are times I want to get out of the house and need access to systems, etc. Since, like you needing certain things for work, I'm not holding my breath that any of these businesses, who have employees themselves and should know what other business and workers need and want, can put out a device that will actually do it.. I'm going with a light weight, small, net book to get me through..

I recall a post recently that the Netbook will not replace the cell phone... I think a phone maker said that, right? RIM was it? anyway.. they need to wake up.. the cell phone will not replace the computer for a long time to come.. not at the pace they are all moving. Even then, there's only so much you can do in a 1.5" screen to begin with.

reply to fiberguy

Re: about time

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reply to Matt
Sound like the Pre store will sell certified apps but getting an app certified is not required if I understand right.

Palm took failed Newton and made it into a true functioning tool - the Pilot. The Pre very well may take the successful iPhone gadgety approach and turn into a much broader 'tool'. History may repeat itself.

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