wifi4milez
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| Still a need for a set top box....
Unless CV plans on negotiating with every TV manufacturer to make special remotes just for them, the end user will still need some sort of a set top box. The set top box will have its own remote that includes dedicated buttons for the DVR features. As such, I really dont see any benefit to this at all. In fact, I would prefer to have the content locally in case the cable feed gets messed up due to rain or some other thing.
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Dodge
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| said by wifi4milez  :... In fact, I would prefer to have the content locally in case the cable feed gets messed up due to rain or some other thing. If the cable feed goes out your DVR will not work either way, unless they changed it from about a year ago. Try pulling the incoming feed out of your current dvr and play something |
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Araiden
join:2008-04-12
| Well the stuff that you already have recorded will still work. That stuff is being loaded off of the hard drive on the box and doesn't require your service to be connected to play that. However if you disconnect the incoming feed you will not be able to watch anything else ;P. |
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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
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| reply to Dodge
said by Dodge :said by wifi4milez :... In fact, I would prefer to have the content locally in case the cable feed gets messed up due to rain or some other thing. If the cable feed goes out your DVR will not work either way, unless they changed it from about a year ago. Try pulling the incoming feed out of your current dvr and play something Of course it still works, unless you pull out the power plug! The content you have recorded is stored on a local hard drive, so you can access it any time the machine is booted up. I havent yet tried it with my FIOS, however it certainly worked with TWC.
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Eat Me
join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ | reply to wifi4milez
With OCAP/tru2way I don't believe they'll need a separate box. All that will be needed is for the TV to download the cable operator's software from the headend. |
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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
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| said by Eat Me :With OCAP/tru2way I don't believe they'll need a separate box. All that will be needed is for the TV to download the cable operator's software from the headend. While that might be possible from a software standpoint, standard TV remotes do not have VOD, pause, FF, etc. buttons. This would mean you would need to get a new custom remote, or a CV universal remote.
Frankly however, I dont really have any issue with an STB. I am not sure why some people dont want them, especially if that means all your content is now stored on the CV network. Local content just works, I can see it, touch it, and I know its there if the feed goes down.
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TKJunkMail
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said by wifi4milez :said by Dodge :said by wifi4milez :... In fact, I would prefer to have the content locally in case the cable feed gets messed up due to rain or some other thing. If the cable feed goes out your DVR will not work either way, unless they changed it from about a year ago. Try pulling the incoming feed out of your current dvr and play something Of course it still works, unless you pull out the power plug! The content you have recorded is stored on a local hard drive, so you can access it any time the machine is booted up. I havent yet tried it with my FIOS, however it certainly worked with TWC. The DVR STB could still play existing already recorded shows if cable goes out. But only as long as the STB wasn't powered down and restarted while the cable is down. Because if you power on a DVR STB after a power outage and the cable connection is still down, it won't come up far enough to play back existing recordings. |
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caddyroger
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| reply to Eat Me
the tv will have to be OCAP/tru2way capable and that will take 10 to 20 years to get done. I just bought a 72 dlp tv 2 years ago and not about to pay just to get a OCAP/tru2way tv. So they will need a set top box or other means of controlling the dvr.
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cornelius785
join:2006-10-26
Worcester, MA | reply to Dodge
well, not necessarily. i assume this is true for cableco DVR things, but probably not true for TIVO and windows media center, and definitely not true for mythtv and similar. |
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Anonymous_
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that might depend on the brand and or software used
as with the motorola boxes i was able to take my DVR to other places and use it with out cable pulged in |
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chasmn84
join:2009-05-07
Glen Ellyn, IL | reply to wifi4milez
Most of the time the menu to get to your dvr from tv operators is downloaded from the node so if you have no signal you cannot access the DVR. NO SERVICE, NO MENU... |
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NSA_CIA
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said by wifi4milez :While that might be possible from a software standpoint, standard TV remotes do not have VOD, pause, FF, etc. buttons. This would mean you would need to get a new custom remote, or a CV universal remote. tru2way has included remote specs so functionality is available to control the extras included with tru2way software.
But usually cable VOD apps used arrow keys in place of dedicated play/pause/stop keys to control the video stream, I'm sure the netDVR can be made to work the same way. |
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ATT TECH
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i install U-Verse for AT&T ... i know for a fact that on our DVR's .. without a signal coming to the DVR you cannot funtion anything on the box ... you wont even be able to get to a menu screen... it will just sit on a blue AT&T screen and then eventually give you an "X" in the middle of your screen.
now i have seen DVR's i believe from DISH NETWORK? where as long as your DVR is plugged to power and to your t.v. then you can watch your recordings from it. |
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Joe12345678
join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL
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said by TKJunkMail :The DVR STB could still play existing already recorded shows if cable goes out. But only as long as the STB wasn't powered down and restarted while the cable is down. Because if you power on a DVR STB after a power outage and the cable connection is still down, it won't come up far enough to play back existing recordings. direct tv boxes can playback dvr feeds with no sat feed and that is after a reboot as well.
will this have the same as VOD control lag? |
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Joe12345678
join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL
| reply to Eat Me
said by Eat Me :With OCAP/tru2way I don't believe they'll need a separate box. All that will be needed is for the TV to download the cable operator's software from the headend. but they may still be a cable card that is needed. |
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ashworth
join:2001-10-06
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Why would you pay for the content twice, once you pay your monthly bill and twice to access it. Cablevision has a great argument, it already provides the content, just storing it somewhere other than on your home DVR ??? Just more industry BS. Where am I wrong here ?? |
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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
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| said by ashworth :Why would you pay for the content twice, once you pay your monthly bill and twice to access it. I am not sure how you figure that someone pays twice for the content now. Part of your monthly bill is the charge for the DVR, its not something you pay for each time you view recorded content, thats VOD and I think you are confusing the two.
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