Re: Still a need for a set top box.... in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r22413100 en Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:12:33 EDT Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:12:33 EDT Re: Still a need for a set top box.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22416090 wifi4milez :
said by ashworth See Profile :

Why would you pay for the content twice, once you pay your monthly bill and twice to access it.
I am not sure how you figure that someone pays twice for the content now. Part of your monthly bill is the charge for the DVR, its not something you pay for each time you view recorded content, thats VOD and I think you are confusing the two.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22416090 Wed, 20 May 2009 10:10:00 EDT Re: Still a need for a set top box.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22414781 ashworth : Why would you pay for the content twice, once you pay your monthly bill and twice to access it. Cablevision has a great argument, it already provides the content, just storing it somewhere other than on your home DVR ??? Just more industry BS. Where am I wrong here ??]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22414781 Tue, 19 May 2009 23:21:11 EDT Re: Still a need for a set top box.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22414333 Joe12345678 :
said by Eat Me See Profile :

With OCAP/tru2way I don't believe they'll need a separate box. All that will be needed is for the TV to download the cable operator's software from the headend.
but they may still be a cable card that is needed.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22414333 Tue, 19 May 2009 21:57:55 EDT Re: Still a need for a set top box.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22414320 Joe12345678 :
said by OverModded See Profile :

The DVR STB could still play existing already recorded shows if cable goes out. But only as long as the STB wasn't powered down and restarted while the cable is down. Because if you power on a DVR STB after a power outage and the cable connection is still down, it won't come up far enough to play back existing recordings.
direct tv boxes can playback dvr feeds with no sat feed and that is after a reboot as well.

will this have the same as VOD control lag?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22414320 Tue, 19 May 2009 21:56:33 EDT Re: Still a need for a set top box.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22413594 anon : i install U-Verse for AT&T ... i know for a fact that on our DVR's .. without a signal coming to the DVR you cannot funtion anything on the box ... you wont even be able to get to a menu screen... it will just sit on a blue AT&T screen and then eventually give you an "X" in the middle of your screen.

now i have seen DVR's i believe from DISH NETWORK? where as long as your DVR is plugged to power and to your t.v. then you can watch your recordings from it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22413594 Tue, 19 May 2009 19:45:23 EDT Re: Still a need for a set top box.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22413375 anon :
said by wifi4milez See Profile :

While that might be possible from a software standpoint, standard TV remotes do not have VOD, pause, FF, etc. buttons. This would mean you would need to get a new custom remote, or a CV universal remote.
tru2way has included remote specs so functionality is available to control the extras included with tru2way software.

But usually cable VOD apps used arrow keys in place of dedicated play/pause/stop keys to control the video stream, I'm sure the netDVR can be made to work the same way.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22413375 Tue, 19 May 2009 18:58:06 EDT Re: Still a need for a set top box.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22413100 chasmn84 : Most of the time the menu to get to your dvr from tv operators is downloaded from the node so if you have no signal you cannot access the DVR. NO SERVICE, NO MENU... ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22413100 Tue, 19 May 2009 17:57:28 EDT Re: Still a need for a set top box.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22412836 Anonymous_ : that might depend on the brand and or software used

as with the motorola boxes i was able to take my DVR to other places and use it with out cable pulged in]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22412836 Tue, 19 May 2009 17:07:09 EDT Re: Still a need for a set top box.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22412634 cornelius785 : well, not necessarily. i assume this is true for cableco DVR things, but probably not true for TIVO and windows media center, and definitely not true for mythtv and similar.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22412634 Tue, 19 May 2009 16:31:10 EDT Re: Still a need for a set top box.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22412538 caddyroger : the tv will have to be OCAP/tru2way capable and that will take 10 to 20 years to get done. I just bought a 72 dlp tv 2 years ago and not about to pay just to get a OCAP/tru2way tv. So they will need a set top box or other means of controlling the dvr.
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Caddy]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22412538 Tue, 19 May 2009 16:15:58 EDT Re: Still a need for a set top box.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22412476 OverModded :
said by wifi4milez See Profile :

said by Dodge See Profile :

said by wifi4milez See Profile :

... In fact, I would prefer to have the content locally in case the cable feed gets messed up due to rain or some other thing.
If the cable feed goes out your DVR will not work either way, unless they changed it from about a year ago. Try pulling the incoming feed out of your current dvr and play something
Of course it still works, unless you pull out the power plug! The content you have recorded is stored on a local hard drive, so you can access it any time the machine is booted up. I havent yet tried it with my FIOS, however it certainly worked with TWC.
The DVR STB could still play existing already recorded shows if cable goes out. But only as long as the STB wasn't powered down and restarted while the cable is down. Because if you power on a DVR STB after a power outage and the cable connection is still down, it won't come up far enough to play back existing recordings.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22412476 Tue, 19 May 2009 16:04:30 EDT Re: Still a need for a set top box.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22412411 wifi4milez :
said by Eat Me See Profile :

With OCAP/tru2way I don't believe they'll need a separate box. All that will be needed is for the TV to download the cable operator's software from the headend.
While that might be possible from a software standpoint, standard TV remotes do not have VOD, pause, FF, etc. buttons. This would mean you would need to get a new custom remote, or a CV universal remote.

Frankly however, I dont really have any issue with an STB. I am not sure why some people dont want them, especially if that means all your content is now stored on the CV network. Local content just works, I can see it, touch it, and I know its there if the feed goes down.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22412411 Tue, 19 May 2009 15:52:25 EDT Re: Still a need for a set top box.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22412376 Eat Me : With OCAP/tru2way I don't believe they'll need a separate box. All that will be needed is for the TV to download the cable operator's software from the headend.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22412376 Tue, 19 May 2009 15:47:27 EDT Re: Still a need for a set top box.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22412364 wifi4milez :
said by Dodge See Profile :

said by wifi4milez See Profile :

... In fact, I would prefer to have the content locally in case the cable feed gets messed up due to rain or some other thing.
If the cable feed goes out your DVR will not work either way, unless they changed it from about a year ago. Try pulling the incoming feed out of your current dvr and play something
Of course it still works, unless you pull out the power plug! The content you have recorded is stored on a local hard drive, so you can access it any time the machine is booted up. I havent yet tried it with my FIOS, however it certainly worked with TWC.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22412364 Tue, 19 May 2009 15:45:45 EDT Re: Still a need for a set top box.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22412255 Araiden : Well the stuff that you already have recorded will still work. That stuff is being loaded off of the hard drive on the box and doesn't require your service to be connected to play that. However if you disconnect the incoming feed you will not be able to watch anything else ;P.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22412255 Tue, 19 May 2009 15:30:02 EDT Re: Still a need for a set top box.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22412205 Dodge :
said by wifi4milez See Profile :

... In fact, I would prefer to have the content locally in case the cable feed gets messed up due to rain or some other thing.
If the cable feed goes out your DVR will not work either way, unless they changed it from about a year ago. Try pulling the incoming feed out of your current dvr and play something]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22412205 Tue, 19 May 2009 15:20:18 EDT Still a need for a set top box.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22412143 wifi4milez : Unless CV plans on negotiating with every TV manufacturer to make special remotes just for them, the end user will still need some sort of a set top box. The set top box will have its own remote that includes dedicated buttons for the DVR features. As such, I really dont see any benefit to this at all. In fact, I would prefer to have the content locally in case the cable feed gets messed up due to rain or some other thing.
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