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hottboiinnc
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reply to BF69
Re: Little too late

Roads always need repair because of their either being dug up all the time or the states and counties are using cheap ass asphalt instead of concerate like they should.

If they used concerate they wouldn't have to go back in the spring and "patch" them and then do it again in a few weeks after a major rain storm comes along and knocks the patch right out.

jester121
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Concrete isn't magic -- you're in Ohio, same weather as Illinois basically. When they lay down concrete they have to place seams to allow for expansion/contraction with temp changes, and when water gets in there it freezes and heaves the pavement. Plows and trucks drive over it, breack off the edge, and you have potholes.

hottboiinnc
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I know how using concrete works. The thing is though Michigan uses it on their freeways and it works fine. They don't do anything to it and it lasts for years!

The rest of the Midwest states could do the same and be done with it.

The thing is though it seems like toooooo many people think about how much its costing now verse how much the project will cost in the long run. Why spend more out over a period of a few years verse spending the money now and forgetting about it and putting the "repair" budget funds on another road for a change. That's the problem the USDOT and many state DOTs have...

Everyone is toooo short sided for anything to really work.

jester121
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I guess Michigan was bound to get something right eventually.

Stop out in the Chicago burbs some time and you'll see what concrete roads look like after 1 winter. Better than asphalt, sure, but still in rouch shape. That may be a special "Italian" blend we use here though.

hottboiinnc
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LOL @ Mi.

But they've had that for at least 8 years now.
But also concerete is also easier to patch.


Cthen

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Ypsilanti, MI
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said by jester121 See Profile :

I guess Michigan was bound to get something right eventually.

You would think so after the mistakes they have made, but no. What the other poster failed to mention is that this year, all concrete projects are still being redone from the year before. Not only does this mean the roadways but it also means every bridge too.

The year before all the contractors this state hired to rework the bridges and roadways used the wrong type of concrete. It was inferior (more like cheaper for the contractors) for what they were using it for and had to be redone as pieces of the bridges were falling onto motorists vehicles as they passed under less than a month after the projects were completed.

You would think they would have held the contractors responsible for it but nope, they didn't do that either. They got money from the federal level instead, hired the same contractors, and pretty much paid them again to do the same job they should have got right in the first place. Of course this would have all been prevented had the state inspected the work as the projects moved along, but no, they decided to do that after people driving under the bridges got hurt.

So, what did this state get right again?
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