Topic 'Llobbying is so bad' in forum '' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Llobbying-is-so-bad-22416007 en Thu, 09 Feb 2012 16:10:41 EDT Thu, 09 Feb 2012 16:10:41 EDT Re: Llobbying is so bad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Llobbying-is-so-bad-22425513 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Llobbying-is-so-bad-22425513 Thu, 21 May 2009 22:14:22 EDT Re: Is lobbying so bad? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Is-lobbying-so-bad-22420286 said by Bit:

Make that a 360
LOL. He can't make up his mind.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Is-lobbying-so-bad-22420286 Wed, 20 May 2009 23:05:53 EDT Re: Is lobbying so bad? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Is-lobbying-so-bad-22420264 --
POKE 65495,1]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Is-lobbying-so-bad-22420264 Wed, 20 May 2009 23:00:29 EDT Re: Is lobbying so bad? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Is-lobbying-so-bad-22419691 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Is-lobbying-so-bad-22419691 Wed, 20 May 2009 21:21:03 EDT Re: Is lobbying so bad? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Is-lobbying-so-bad-22417525 said by ThrowDemsOut:

a 180 degree switcheroo. Why the change?
trolling, comes to mind.

q.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Is-lobbying-so-bad-22417525 Wed, 20 May 2009 14:10:21 EDT Re: Is lobbying so bad? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Is-lobbying-so-bad-22417513 Is lobbying so bad? It is part of our great democratic system. Heck, I'd even wager it's good for simulating our economy.

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said by 45071419:

Lobbying just bad. It is NOT part of our great democratic system. Heck, I'd even wager it's bad for our economy.
a 180 degree switcheroo. Why the change?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Is-lobbying-so-bad-22417513 Wed, 20 May 2009 14:08:08 EDT Re: Is lobbying so bad? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Is-lobbying-so-bad-22416813 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Is-lobbying-so-bad-22416813 Wed, 20 May 2009 12:05:33 EDT Re: Is lobbying so bad? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Is-lobbying-so-bad-22416577 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Is-lobbying-so-bad-22416577 Wed, 20 May 2009 11:33:34 EDT Re: Is lobbying so bad? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Is-lobbying-so-bad-22416544 said by tubbynet:

said by Matt:

Tk, seriously?
sorry to burst your bubble, matt, but this isn't the real tk that we have all come to know and despise. it seems that when the former tk changed his name to ThrowDemsOut See Profile, this troll swooped in and stole his name, seemingly to do just as he has done here.
it seems as though we have replaced someone with shillish beliefs and replaced him with someone who shills for shillings sake.
as much as i cringed when reading some of ThrowDemsOut See Profile's responses, i always appreciated the fact that he had *much* more couth and was often, a little more subtle about his shillish ways. this poser is just way too on the nose. kinda depresses me actually.

q.
Color me guilty. I thought the post was a bit brief and lacking a certain slant to the right that usually accompanies Tk's posts. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Is-lobbying-so-bad-22416544 Wed, 20 May 2009 11:29:08 EDT Re: Is lobbying so bad? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Is-lobbying-so-bad-22416494 said by Matt:

Tk, seriously?
sorry to burst your bubble, matt, but this isn't the real tk that we have all come to know and despise. it seems that when the former tk changed his name to ThrowDemsOut See Profile, this troll swooped in and stole his name, seemingly to do just as he has done here.
it seems as though we have replaced someone with shillish beliefs and replaced him with someone who shills for shillings sake.
as much as i cringed when reading some of ThrowDemsOut See Profile's responses, i always appreciated the fact that he had *much* more couth and was often, a little more subtle about his shillish ways. this poser is just way too on the nose. kinda depresses me actually.

q.
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The only people who should be permitted to contribute to campaigns are individual registered voters who are legal residents of the districts those politicians represent. Bribes Contributions from corporations, consumer groups, unions, those living in other areas all should be banned. Their membership are free donate as individuals, but these lobby groups who don't vote should have no influence over our political process. California is a prime example of how these groups, particularly the public employee unions, have taken over government. Yesterday's special election is the only time I can remember them being defeated at the polls and it only happened after the state has been destroyed by their greed. Usually the propositions these groups get on the ballot and spend tens of millions to advertise on TV (usually with lies and distortion) pass with flying colors much to their financial benefit. And these measures are one of the reasons we are over $20B in the hole despite record treasury revenues.
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POKE 65495,1]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Is-lobbying-so-bad-22416265 Wed, 20 May 2009 10:47:22 EDT Re: Is lobbying so bad? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Is-lobbying-so-bad-22416223 said by neowulf:

As Ben Scott said in the story "If Comcast decided to get in front of the 435 members of the House, they could do that in a week. I don't think I could do it in a year."
Very, very, good point.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Is-lobbying-so-bad-22416223 Wed, 20 May 2009 10:39:16 EDT Re: Is lobbying so bad? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Is-lobbying-so-bad-22416185
When lobbying is no longer democratic and is based purely on corruption and greed, used by big corporations as a way to squash both consumers and the little start-ups. So yes lobbying in how it is used is bad.

If anything lobbying is De-stimulus as it takes away from innovation and competition. Most of what these big Telecoms lobby is for protection from new laws that benefit consumer rights, new regulations that would effect their bottom line negatively, and protection form competition such as local city network projects.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Is-lobbying-so-bad-22416185 Wed, 20 May 2009 10:33:23 EDT Re: Is lobbying so bad? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Is-lobbying-so-bad-22416173 said by 45071419:

Is lobbying so bad? It is part of our great democratic system. Heck, I'd even wager it's good for simulating our economy.
Tk, seriously? A corporation spending billions of dollars a year in nefarious ways and hiding it so it can't be tied back to the benefiting corporation, creating and funding astroturf organizations to outright lie to our government for the benefit of corporations.

Yes, in its current incarnation it is awful.

We need lobby reform, now. All one has to do is look at the control corporations have gained while allowing us to fall behind the rest of the world in every measurable statistic ... except consumer debt, to see it doesn't work.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Is-lobbying-so-bad-22416173 Wed, 20 May 2009 10:30:19 EDT Llobbying is so bad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Llobbying-is-so-bad-22416007 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Llobbying-is-so-bad-22416007 Wed, 20 May 2009 09:52:08 EDT