Re: LONG road to ROI in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r22417611 en Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:31:59 EDT Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:31:59 EDT Re: LONG road to ROI http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22426296 fiberguy : I don't recall the wiring arcing more so than it over heated and the insulation material used on the DC11 caught on fire causing the systems to shut down and the plane ultimately crashed into the water off the coast of Nova Scotia.. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22426296 Fri, 22 May 2009 01:22:14 EDT Re: LONG road to ROI http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22423119 anon : Agreed. I have a 14" laptop which is borderline unusable on VA when the passenger in front reclines. But alas, I still fly on VA since they're also the only airline with power outlets on every seat in every plane.

I think I may have to buy a netbook now.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22423119 Thu, 21 May 2009 17:40:11 EDT Re: LONG road to ROI http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22419866 r81984 :
said by fiberguy See Profile :

At those prices, I'm sorry to tell them, they're going to have a really hard time getting an ROI on the investment.

I predict that unless they drop the price, the service will go the way of the AirPhone.
I was on a Delta flight 2 weeks ago and paid $10 to have gogo wireless for my laptop on my 3 hour flight. It was worth every penny.

I had a about a 250/250 connection.
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said by FHBroadband See Profile :

Wifi on Virgin America works with a laptop? Ethernet isn't activated, it goes thru the wireless?

According to Virgin they had ethernet + wireless connectivity but ethernet wasn't activated yet and neither was wireless. Now I take it the wireless is active and ethernet is not?

Also does the wireless work with regular laptops?
:hmm:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22419804 Wed, 20 May 2009 21:40:41 EDT Re: LONG road to ROI http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22418664 FHBroadband : No I mean the in seat ethernet jacks where you can plug an ethernet cable into. It is mentioned on the website. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22418664 Wed, 20 May 2009 17:37:48 EDT Re: LONG road to ROI http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22418608 PhoenixDown : I think the ethernet cables are used to carry the video and music from their on flight server to the monitor in the head rest.
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said by morbo See Profile :

that pricing is reasonable for in-flight entertainment. i think they have it just about right.
Yep, I am flying from NYC to LA in July (on Virgin) and I can assure you I will be purchasing the $12.95 package. Sure, I think $10 would be better (or free!) but their price is fair enough.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22418212 Wed, 20 May 2009 16:26:12 EDT Re: LONG road to ROI http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22418197 FHBroadband : »www.virginamerica.com/va/press/2···iFi.html

Looks like those are the laptops people were using. :-)

Was that coach I presume? ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22418197 Wed, 20 May 2009 16:23:08 EDT Re: LONG road to ROI http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22418171 FHBroadband : Virgin allegedly has ethernet ports but they are not utilized at this time if I recall.

Apparently the wireless internet was finally enabled.

I assume the power ports work. Virgin America has first class but coach prices are significantly cheaper.

It was just a matter of time before Virgin added the features as their aircraft are all fully equipped.

SwissAir ran a plane which had an FAA certified video entertainment system which was rushed and wiring arc'ed and the plane blew up killing all. Other airlines saw the issue and did not use this equipment.

Virgin America's system is fully tested, FAA approved I hope the engineers did their due dilligence with making it all work without safety issues. I assume the final safety certifications came through which is why only recently it came into play.

I wonder when the ethernet will get activated. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22418171 Wed, 20 May 2009 16:17:46 EDT Re: LONG road to ROI http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22417923 davoice : Also remember there is somewhat limited capacity. So they don't want to price it where every Moe, Larry and Curly on the plane will log on. You're essentially sharing a single EVDO aircard w/ everyone on the plane.

Better to have 1 person at $13 than 2 at $6.

}Davoice]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22417923 Wed, 20 May 2009 15:25:43 EDT Re: LONG road to ROI http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22417907 davoice :
said by Rob See Profile :

said by FHBroadband See Profile :

the question becomes which Laptop is appropriate to use in coach class.
.. the one with no speakers :D
With seat pitches below 34" (most major airlines), as tiny as possible. Anything bigger than 12" screen does not fit on the tray table. Anything bigger than 10" does fit if the genius in front of you reclines.

}Davoice]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22417907 Wed, 20 May 2009 15:22:49 EDT Re: LONG road to ROI http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22417902 fiberguy : WOW! Just incredible!!

Looks like I have some homework for some later finger pointing and gloating to do.

I do recall, some months back, when others, in this very forum posting, stated it was too much.. now it's just fine.. Hmmmm.. Interesting...

I still disagree.. The price point is too high to gain the level of customers they need to support the service on its own...

While people here may find it a value, try stacking that up against regular travelers. Remember, this is a budget airline. People will make a choice to AVOID a carrier over $10 in ticket price, ESPECIALLY when you are to 2 and 3 ticketed passengers. That alone ads up to $60 round trip in the case of three.. and doesn't include baggage fees, etc. Frontier Airlines flies many flights with DirecTV dark becuase people won't pay the $5 for the service.. In this economy, and ala cart add-up-quickly flying, people are going to think twice.. often.

LOOKING AT THE BIG PICTURE, not a niche' group of people like here (sorry, it's the truth) I don't see this as a good price point.. especially for the amount its going to be crippled. Essentially, it's for email, chat, and some web... $13.00 is a lot for that.

I swear, too, I think that people like to disagree with me just to disagree.. so, now off to find post history on those who now love the price today where they hated it a few months back.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22417902 Wed, 20 May 2009 15:21:30 EDT Re: LONG road to ROI http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22417718 jefe : What's a "regular" laptop?

Virgin's wifi worked with Dell D620 Lattitude's standard built in wifi card. And, as I mentioned above, it also worked fine with my wife's iPhone.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22417718 Wed, 20 May 2009 14:45:05 EDT Re: LONG road to ROI http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22417684 Rob :
said by FHBroadband See Profile :

the question becomes which Laptop is appropriate to use in coach class.
.. the one with no speakers :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22417684 Wed, 20 May 2009 14:38:39 EDT Re: LONG road to ROI http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22417682 FHBroadband : Agree with the pricing. With the power ports + Internet (hopefully ethernet will work with laptops), the question becomes which Laptop is appropriate to use in coach class. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22417682 Wed, 20 May 2009 14:37:37 EDT Re: LONG road to ROI http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22417676 djeremy : I'll be paying that $12.95 for my SFO to BOS flight next week on Virgin. That seems totally reasonable for a 5 hour flight.

I'm wondering if all the other airlines implementing WiFi have power plugs in every the seat like Virgin does. Paying that $12.95 without a power port would be somewhat usless.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22417676 Wed, 20 May 2009 14:36:41 EDT Re: LONG road to ROI http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22417673 Rob :
said by fiberguy See Profile :

At those prices, I'm sorry to tell them, they're going to have a really hard time getting an ROI on the investment.

I predict that unless they drop the price, the service will go the way of the AirPhone.
I disagree. I suspect they'll see ROI fairly quickly now that it's available on all their fleets.

The prices are very reasonable.
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According to Virgin they had ethernet + wireless connectivity but ethernet wasn't activated yet and neither was wireless. Now I take it the wireless is active and ethernet is not?

Also does the wireless work with regular laptops? ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22417662 Wed, 20 May 2009 14:35:14 EDT Re: LONG road to ROI http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22417618 jefe : I've flown NY/SFO a few times on Virgin and used their wifi each time. Last trip my wife and I split the use...her on her iPhone and me on my laptop.

Email, browsing, etc. helps pass the flight. Plus, in my case, it reduces the likelihood that when I land I'll find some work related email waiting for me that needs attention and that I could've handled while I was a captive in an airlne seat. ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22417618 Wed, 20 May 2009 14:28:35 EDT Re: LONG road to ROI http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22417611 morbo : that pricing is reasonable for in-flight entertainment. i think they have it just about right.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22417611 Wed, 20 May 2009 14:27:29 EDT Re: LONG road to ROI http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22417572 Matt : I agree with the previous two posters. I think those prices for the most part are very fair. I hope my cross country flight this summer offers in-flight WiFi.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22417572 Wed, 20 May 2009 14:20:20 EDT Re: LONG road to ROI http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22417535 Araiden : What's wrong with those prices? They seem pretty reasonable to me. What do you expect to be able to use the service in the air? I'd pay those prices to be able to use my smartphone or laptop while i'm flying as long as the service is somewhat decent surf web pages fairly quickly etc. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22417535 Wed, 20 May 2009 14:13:01 EDT Re: LONG road to ROI http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22417511 iansltx : Hey, I'd pay that much to get WiFi on my flight. I'm sure a lot of the technorati would do the same. Just look at all the web celebs on Virgin's every-so-often inaugural flights :p]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22417511 Wed, 20 May 2009 14:06:26 EDT LONG road to ROI http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22417480 fiberguy : At those prices, I'm sorry to tell them, they're going to have a really hard time getting an ROI on the investment.

I predict that unless they drop the price, the service will go the way of the AirPhone.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22417480 Wed, 20 May 2009 14:01:26 EDT