 neowulf
join:2000-10-20
Port Orange, FL | reply to Anonymous_
Re: metered billing means I also no longer want to pay for banner ads, or any ads for that matter as I would then now be paying for those ads...
Metered billing would turn the internet into a very boring place, think of all the flash sites, or graphics or innovating that would be killed by having to watch how much bandwidth you consume. Heck I am wasting bandwidth right now by being here!
They are trying to tout this as saving the internet, or they talk about it how grandma is subsidizing the heavy users, and that grandma shouldn't have to pay because you watch hulu.
Yet in the end even TWC plan was to charge grandma what she was paying if she just checked her email, but if she downloaded that video of her grand kids she better be ready to pay more then what she was before she was saved by TWC from those heavy users.
So in the end grandma is going to be paying more then she is now, so who exactly are they helping out here? Don't answer that I already know. |
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me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO | said by neowulf:I also no longer want to pay for banner ads, or any ads for that matter as I would then now be paying for those ads... Metered billing would turn the internet into a very boring place, think of all the flash sites, or graphics or innovating that would be killed by having to watch how much bandwidth you consume. Heck I am wasting bandwidth right now by being here! They are trying to tout this as saving the internet, or they talk about it how grandma is subsidizing the heavy users, and that grandma shouldn't have to pay because you watch hulu. Yet in the end even TWC plan was to charge grandma what she was paying if she just checked her email, but if she downloaded that video of her grand kids she better be ready to pay more then what she was before she was saved by TWC from those heavy users. So in the end grandma is going to be paying more then she is now, so who exactly are they helping out here? Don't answer that I already know. That is one reason I dislike this metered crap so much. If they want metered may it a real PAYG. |
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If you don't want banner ads you will create a 2tier internet or you will start paying for each website you go to.
The ISPs do not put the banners in, the website owners do. |
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| I still disagree. Let the "websight owners" fight these caps to get their advertisements back then. Regardless its not the END USERS responsibility, period. We don;t want the ad's therefore we are DEFINITELY not paying for them to be transmitted to our houses over our capped lines. |
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Romney2012Defeat Obama 2012-Chg we can believe inPremium
join:2002-03-03
USA
kudos:4 | reply to neowulf
said by neowulf:I also no longer want to pay for banner ads, or any ads for that matter as I would then now be paying for those ads... Ad Block Plus for Firefox or IE7pro for IE. |
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neowulf
join:2000-10-20
Port Orange, FL | Already use, and there are ads that still get through. But that is besides the point, once you meter something it should be the responsibility of the company that meters to make sure garbage no longer gets through.
TWC wants all the gravy of what metered billing brings, but wants no added responsibility. |
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| I agree with neowulf, no one said we could not block the ad's. It's that in such a tightly metered bill if we the customer don't want the ad's period, they should no longer be transmitted to us because we can not control the size, cost, or ad cycle frequency of the advertisement banner. |
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Very good points neowolf. |
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PittsPghPremium
join:2003-08-21
Pittsburgh, PA
kudos:1 | reply to Romney2012
said by Romney2012:said by neowulf:I also no longer want to pay for banner ads, or any ads for that matter as I would then now be paying for those ads... Ad Block Plus for Firefox or IE7pro for IE. Wouldn't matter what you use to block the ads. They still hit your modem. |
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| And let me remind everyone that is was At&ts promise that they would use the tariffs to build FTTP to all homes.
If this current business model is unsustainable, then At&t was also lying to the government. |
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Romney2012Defeat Obama 2012-Chg we can believe inPremium
join:2002-03-03
USA
kudos:4 | reply to PittsPgh
said by PittsPgh:said by Romney2012:said by neowulf:I also no longer want to pay for banner ads, or any ads for that matter as I would then now be paying for those ads... Ad Block Plus for Firefox or IE7pro for IE. Wouldn't matter what you use to block the ads. They still hit your modem. Actually no they don't. You link to a web page and the ad block software prevents that page from calling all the ads in from different web sites. Ads are almost all served from web sites separate from the web page you are going to. Those ads are never even delivered. The add block software isn't suppressing the display of the ad, it is suppressing the retrieval of the ad completely. |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | reply to neowulf
said by neowulf:Already use, and there are ads that still get through. But that is besides the point, once you meter something it should be the responsibility of the company that meters to make sure garbage no longer gets through. TWC wants all the gravy of what metered billing brings, but wants no added responsibility. Water company isn't responsible for the leaking toilet in your house, why should TWC be responsible for the ads your computer pulls through? |
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neowulf
join:2000-10-20
Port Orange, FL | But would they be responsible if they sent me raw sewage in my drinking water? Sorry but to me that is more comparable.
Once you put a meter on anything it becomes regulated. I can't think of any other service that is metered and isn't regulated. You are going to have local, state and fed governments come in put on all their new fees for each bit you transfer. Once you put a meter on bandwidth it is going to open the floodgate of new fees.
The whole ad thing I originally opened with was more of a joke then serious, but in a funny sort of way you are going to be paying for those ads, even with a ad blocker a few always get through. I guess that is how people who subscribe to cable or satellite tv feel. I wouldn't know since I don't subscribe to any video service.
There are a million things how meter billing on the net will have it's weird questions, like if I am in the middle of a big dl, the ISP has a outage, the file becomes corrupted or the site does not resume the file, will I get credit for the ISP's outage, more then likely the answer is of course not.
So in the end these ISPs want to meter you because they know they will make a killing, as they are already profitable as a all you can eat. But they also don't want the regulators to come in and tell them what they can and can't do. So they want our money, they don't want to provide anything extra for that money, and they don't want the government to come in and regulate what they can and can't do or charge or just about anything, seems fair to me. |
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