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Re: metered billing means So then if the best interest of the consumer was in the mind of the cablecos...then why not price ala carte? That would drop those 5gig users to about $8 a month and those vicious bandwidth hogs would be on the hook for what they use!
The more they pay the less they use...then the cablecos would reclaim some of that precious bandwidth they're supposedly losing. |
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 espaethDigital PlumberPremium,MVM
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Minneapolis, MN
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| said by S_engineer:So then if the best interest of the consumer was in the mind of the cablecos...then why not price ala carte? That would drop those 5gig users to about $8 a month and those vicious bandwidth hogs would be on the hook for what they use! For the same reason you can't offer $300k in auto insurance for $1/mo for the people who don't file a claim in a year. The system isn't sustainable if you drop the base price to $8, unless your folks using more than 5GB/mo are willing to kick in hundreds of dollars to re-balance the system.
said by S_engineer:The more they pay the less they use...then the cablecos would reclaim some of that precious bandwidth they're supposedly losing. It's not quite that simple. Subscriber monthly fees * {x} subscribers buys {y} amount of bandwidth. The problem is when the demand of {x} subscribers exceeds the amount of capacity {y} that can be built out using that money. The numbers are constantly shifting. |
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| Your missing the point. The 60 or 70 or 80 percent of the people that are only utilizing 5 or 10 or even 20 gig per month are more than adequately making up for the 5 % of the people that use into the 100s of gigs. By stating that they don't, they are admitting that they have an oversold inferior network!
With that admission in mind, why is it the responsibility of the consumer to upgrade a network all at once rather than over time like it should have been done in the first place.
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 beerbumobscurum per obscuriusPremium
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Eastern PA
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said by S_engineer:The more they pay the less they use...then the cablecos would reclaim some of that precious bandwidth they're supposedly losing. Speaking of bandwidth.. won't the cablecos have mad bandwidth freed up this coming June 12 when all video broadcast/transmissions are supposed to switch to all data?
I'm sure they'll then start to drop their analog simulcast, slowly moving all subscribers needing a cable box to get all channels.. |
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Romney2012Defeat Obama 2012-Chg we can believe inPremium
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1 edit | said by beerbum:said by S_engineer:The more they pay the less they use...then the cablecos would reclaim some of that precious bandwidth they're supposedly losing. Speaking of bandwidth.. won't the cablecos have mad bandwidth freed up this coming June 12 when all video broadcast/transmissions are supposed to switch to all data? I'm sure they'll then start to drop their analog simulcast, slowly moving all subscribers needing a cable box to get all channels.. They can't drop their analog simulcast on basic channels for a couple years by FCC mandate. |
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espaethDigital PlumberPremium,MVM
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said by S_engineer:By stating that they don't, they are admitting that they have an oversold inferior network! That's one way to phrase it -- the other way is to say the oversubscription ratio is starting to change a bit faster than what they can budget for expansion. Network growth is planned every year for every major ISP out there -- the problem is when demand exceeds planned growth based on budget.
said by S_engineer:With that admission in mind, why is it the responsibility of the consumer to upgrade a network all at once rather than over time like it should have been done in the first place. You have to remember in the cable world DOCSIS systems started out with 2,000+ cable modems attached per downstream channel when they were being deployed at the start of the decade. Now it's typical to see 250 modems or less on a downstream channel, and 125 or less per upstream channel.
Same deal with expansion for DSL. The Remote Terminal DSLAM that feeds my house was installed in 2005 with a couple T1s feeding it to provide my ILEC the ability to sell 1.5mps DSL service. Just a few weeks back they started dropping in a brand new fiber distribution system that will serve as a potential platform for FTTP deployments in the future, but for now they've been able to expand capacity to the RT so they can offer 10mbps DSL in the meantime.
Upgrades are constant, and are done as part of planned tech refresh cycles under the annual budget. The problem is rapid expansion is more expensive than waiting for technology to mature and the price of equipment to come down. If people are going to drive traffic that forces broadband providers to get the newest equipment at top dollar prices, that money has to come from somewhere. |
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beerbumobscurum per obscuriusPremium
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Eastern PA | reply to Romney2012
said by Romney2012:said by beerbum:said by S_engineer:The more they pay the less they use...then the cablecos would reclaim some of that precious bandwidth they're supposedly losing. Speaking of bandwidth.. won't the cablecos have mad bandwidth freed up this coming June 12 when all video broadcast/transmissions are supposed to switch to all data? I'm sure they'll then start to drop their analog simulcast, slowly moving all subscribers needing a cable box to get all channels.. They can't drop their analog simulcast on basic channels for a couple years by FCC mandate. yes this is true.. however Comcast has a basic package and what they call expanded basic, or enhanced, or standard depending on what your region calls it - it is made up of those channels above the 20 or so channel basic plan that a DCT is not needed - those they can and have already start moving them to digital only to free up that 8MHz the analog channel was using.. |
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 baineschile2600 ways to livePremium
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Sterling Heights, MI | reply to beerbum
The june 12th switch has nothing to do with cable bandwidth. That is OTA switching to a digital signal. |
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